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I also had the first model EEEPC. The space bar stuck up a little, like it had a little boner, and the keyboard would get really hot over time. I too flipped back and forth between XP and the custom Linux, and learned to play roguelikes with the HJKLYUBN layout on it. I don't miss the damned thing, but it was pretty decent in that pre-tablet, lovely smartphone world. I think I had more fun trying to get outsized software and games running on the thing than actually playing or doing any work, though.
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Pham Nuwen posted:The biggest problem with the later generation netbooks was the vertical screen resolution. My friend had the same one I did but kept Windows on it, and at 1024x600 things sometimes got a little ridiculous. I remember watching him trying to read a PDF inside his browser, but between the Windows taskbar, the title bar on the window, the menus and navigation on the browser, and then the nested PDF controls inside the browser tab, he could only see a fraction of a page at a time. Looked like one of those old screenshots of IE with 20 toolbars installed and a tiny sliver of content at the bottom. Even worse for those who bought a VAIO P:  https://www.computerweekly.com/photostory/2240107447/Photos-Sony-Vaio-P-Series/1/Sony-Vaio-P-Series-specifications Buttcoin purse posted:For a few tens of bucks you can get a USB device that can be plugged in to an IDE or SATA drive and then makes it appear like a regular mass storage device, plus a power brick with the different types of power connector for HDDs. You can then image the disk using normal tools that let the disk do the reading normally. Cheers. I have a Dual SATA and IDE dock, also a SATA to Ethernet for some reason. What I was meaining was something more low level - I've seen stuff that pro hard drive recovery places use which are a PCI(E?) card for more controls but don't want to spend a few grand on stuff I'm just mucking about with.
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My EEEPC made for a great study laptop. I thought there were Intel graphic drivers that did have an option for it's odd size.
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May 17, 2018 09:25
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I only recently retired my 12 inch eeepc because my toddler put a pebble on the keyboard and closed the lid. I had to replace the keyboard once because random keys stopped working and i put a SSD in (which barely helped) but that thing just kept chugging along. But after getting used to actually fast computers and tablets the slight delay in everything was just so loving grating. "Did it actually recognize that click to start the browser? I'll click it again. Oh no now its trying to two start two instances of the browser and everything is slowing to a crawl."
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May 17, 2018 09:27
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WebDog posted:My EEEPC made for a great study laptop. I thought there were Intel graphic drivers that did have an option for it's odd size. My 1001HA had an option in the drivers to squeeze 1024x768 onto the 1024x600 screen, for applications that needed more resolution. For instance, Handbrake refuses to run on anything with less than 768 pixels of vertical resolution, because the main author is a opinionated rear end who doesn't think netbooks have enough power to encode video.
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May 17, 2018 09:32
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KozmoNaut posted:My 1001HA had an option in the drivers to squeeze 1024x768 onto the 1024x600 screen, for applications that needed more resolution. For instance, Handbrake refuses to run on anything with less than 768 pixels of vertical resolution, because the main author is a opinionated rear end who doesn't think netbooks have enough power to encode video. He's... not really wrong though?
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May 17, 2018 09:56
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Humphreys posted:Even worse for those who bought a VAIO P:
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Ruflux posted:He's... not really wrong though? Well, yeah, 'cause it can - if you're *extremely* patient?
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Ruflux posted:He's... not really wrong though? I re-encoded a few videos on it, to shrink them down. It wasn't fast, but it wasn't actually too bad, either. Took a couple of hours, I just let the batch job run overnight. Anyway, deciding that a user cannot run your software because of an arbitrary parameter such as screen resolution or whatever else is silly. I could just have plugged in an external monitor as a workaround, which makes his silly roadblock even more stupid.
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Well, I mean, Windows basically requires 1024x768 as a minimum these days to work properly too. I don't think having a baseline resolution from the 90s is unreasonable at all, especially since netbooks aren't really the target for video encoding applications. Forcing devs to cater to outliers just seems like a waste of their time, really.  Besides, even testing that stuff would be a lot of extra work for someone making a free app if they don't have access to a netbook.
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KozmoNaut posted:I re-encoded a few videos on it, to shrink them down. It wasn't fast, but it wasn't actually too bad, either. Took a couple of hours, I just let the batch job run overnight. Have you not heard the tale of the user banned from SA for browsing on a WebTV?
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A FUCKIN CANARY!! posted:The biggest thing I remember about netbooks is them coming with Windows XP or 7 despite it being unusable with those, and requiring the installation of Linux to work well. Why not just ship it with Linux to have a product that worked a lot more smoothly and could be sold for a few bucks cheaper? A game magazine back in the day did a bit on how to install Windows 98SE on an Eee so you could play old games on it.
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May 17, 2018 11:58
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Ruflux posted:Well, I mean, Windows basically requires 1024x768 as a minimum these days to work properly too. I don't think having a baseline resolution from the 90s is unreasonable at all, especially since netbooks aren't really the target for video encoding applications. Forcing devs to cater to outliers just seems like a waste of their time, really. Sure, have it as a baseline, but don't put in artificial limitations just because. There is absolutely no technical reason, the UI actually fits in 600 pixels of vertical resolution (well, back then it did, I haven't checked lately), and a CPU is a CPU, the encoding will just be a bit slow. It's not like a netbook is some special non-PC platform, it's just a small x86 laptop.
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Jerry Cotton posted:A game magazine back in the day did a bit on how to install Windows 98SE on an Eee so you could play old games on it. TinyXP was a godsend.
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May 17, 2018 12:38
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In a similar vein, is there a good guide for Win10? My aforementioned computer has a 32Gb EMMC drive and windows eats close to 16Gb, making some larger updates use a USB drive. My only real gripe.
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May 17, 2018 13:44
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Humphreys posted:Even worse for those who bought a VAIO P: At 1600 x 768 it beats most other netbooks I ever used, although at that price I could have bought 3 of my Asus netbooks. However my occasional dealings with Sony hardware lead me to believe it wouldn't have run Linux, or probably any OS except the exact version of Windows it shipped with, worth a drat which was a deal-breaker.
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May 17, 2018 14:50
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jojoinnit posted:Man I wanted one of these so bad back in the day. All of Sony's Vaio range seemed super sleek and premium. Not sure when they stopped making them but I haven't seen a Sony branded laptop in forever. I have the Sony Vaio Pro 13 from 2014, it was their last one. After that, Vaio has become its own brand outside of Sony, and is still making laptops. It was the lightest laptop in the world, but it also had the structural integrity of a napkin. If I rest my palms on the aptly named palmrest, the case bends so much it clicks the touchpad.
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I had a little Acer 9" laptop some time in the mid 2000's. It was a dual core Atom chip with I think 8GB of flash for storage. The flash was really really slow. It was found out that you could increase performance of the system by enabling file system compress on the storage because it was actually faster because of the reduced file sizes, even at the cost of extra CPU usage ON A gently caress ATOM CHIP!
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May 17, 2018 15:39
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Ah, terrible loving flash performance. I remember getting a T700 or T701. Aka one of the earlier 2 in 1 tablet devices.  The keyboard dock had a huge battery in it that would charge the tablet, it had 2 full size usb ports on the sides. It had a great 1920x1200px IPS screen, and otherwise pretty good. Even had a mini-hdmi output, letting me play off movies and stuff on the tv at home. It was also probably the slowest android device I've ever used, due to the shittiest flash storage known to mankind. Moving something, anything to an sdcard instead of internal storage would significantly speed it up. I was planning on installing a custom rom on it, and extending the internal storage so that it would use the sd card as internal storage. At the time I couldn't unlock the bootloader either, so I ended up selling it off and buying a Nexus7 instead, which performed like greased lightning compared to this overpriced shitheap. (It's internal GPS was also so terrible, and the metal body interfered with it so much that they shipped this loving thing to fix it.) 
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jojoinnit posted:Man I wanted one of these so bad back in the day. All of Sony's Vaio range seemed super sleek and premium. Not sure when they stopped making them but I haven't seen a Sony branded laptop in forever. You dodged a hell of a bullet. I have one of those Vaio P at home and it's EXTREMELY slow. It's got to be some hardware problem because it can't be possible it's so sluggish even on Lubuntu.
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When I got my Big Person Job with Healthcare Benefits and Steady Hours, I strongly considered an EEE PC because of the portability. Thank god I went with the slightly scuffed and cheaper ACER floormodel because I ended up having that thing for years and used it for video/photo editing.
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I still have my MSI U100 Wind... I put Mint Linux, an extra GB of RAM, and a 100 GB SSD in it and it's still my inflight entertainment machine.
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Ah, devices from before headphone legislation ensured you'd never be able to turn it up loud enough to drown out the engines...
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Data Graham posted:Ah, devices from before headphone legislation ensured you'd never be able to turn it up loud enough to drown out the engines... Bose QuietComfort headphones.
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Humphreys posted:Even worse for those who bought a VAIO P:
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Data Graham posted:Ah, devices from before headphone legislation ensured you'd never be able to turn it up loud enough to drown out the engines... Headphone legislation? What? Please enlighten me, haven't flown in a few years.
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Is there legislation? Devices do limit volume nowadays, that's true.
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Metal Geir Skogul posted:Is there legislation? Devices do limit volume nowadays, that's true. It seems like that is often true but doesn't seem uniform. My JBL Everest 710 headphones can still get painfully loud, which is pretty impressive in general much less for a pair of Bluetooth headphones.
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I just found some mice in a cabinet at work. USB connector, but still the old ball mechanism. There couldn't have been too many years where those two technologies overlapped? PS: At least one of them is now getting used.
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Mid 2000s probably.
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big crush on Chad OMG posted:Bose QuietComfort headphones. Great noise cancelling. I used to do service work for a number of brands and I'm kicking myself I didn't buy a set when I got staff deals.
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I thought all bose products where poo poo is that not true
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Empress Brosephine posted:I thought all bose products where poo poo is that not true Overpriced = yes. poo poo = no. They do have some interesting tech but oversell it. Personally I would go with a Marantz receiver and some Cambridge Audio speakers. ^ saying that I am a scrub with a Sony Muteki 7.4 system. Humphreys has a new favorite as of 12:21 on May 18, 2018 |
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I thought the general consensus wasn't that they sucked, but they were terrible value - way too expensive for what you get
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Grand Prize Winner posted:Headphone legislation? What? Please enlighten me, haven't flown in a few years. https://blog.mediamusicnow.co.uk/2015/03/23/eu-commission-control-volume-mp3-players-ipods-other-players/ I guess? Apparently it’s not something super easy to find citations on, and sounds weirdly conspiracy-ish...
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Data Graham posted:https://blog.mediamusicnow.co.uk/2015/03/23/eu-commission-control-volume-mp3-players-ipods-other-players/ I guess? Apparently it’s not something super easy to find citations on, and sounds weirdly conspiracy-ish... Yeah, about a decade ago, the EU imposed max volume restrictions on mp3 players. One of my Ipod 5Gen firmware upgrades decreased the max volume it would play at if you had your country set to one that was in the EU. If you wiped the iPod back to factory settings and set it to US, that limit was removed. I think that there was a later firmware update that set a lower max volume, but you had the option of going into the setting menu and overriding it, as long as you clicked through a warning screen.
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I just remembered a really cool slim MP3 Player called the 'MP3PIO' that I lusted over that had USB 1.0 when I was still dealing with a Pine DMusic that used the LPT port to load music. Closest I can find is a music video by BT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nt52SoAeP48 And hearing that reminded me that BT did the score for 'Gone in 60 Seconds' and I want to say Fast and Furious. Humphreys has a new favorite as of 13:38 on May 18, 2018 |
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Humphreys posted:Overpriced = yes. poo poo = no. They do have some interesting tech but oversell it.
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JazzmasterCurious posted:I have a T-Amp (tripath amps are tech relics now aren't they?) and a pair of $150 Eltax 5" monitors - and it's just as good as my old Denon PMA860 with a pair of cheap 2x8" floor speakers - for this small room anyway. In saying that I have a stupid loud Muteki system which is soley just to make noise (we have dubbed them the Centrelink1000's) I've mainly used my MDR-V6s for the last 6 years which I liberated from my video editing job when they upgraded to Sennheisers.
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