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Dead Reckoning posted:You said in that same post that you harbor spite for gun owners as people. It's hard to take you seriously when when you say that you would vote to spite people (but that's OK lol, because you haven't been able to do it... yet...) and then say you want to have a discussion in good faith. Gun ownership is a choice you stupid gently caress, and not one that has a measurable impact on the quality of your life
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# ? May 18, 2018 22:34 |
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Bluh bluh illegally immigrsting is a choice too bluh bluh shut the gently caress up
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# ? May 18, 2018 22:38 |
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botany posted:like, i realize that this is obviously a caricature of right-wing pundits, but in all honesty: i'm just tired of reading it. it's gross when they do it and it's gross when we pretend to be them for laughs. 10 kids died today. reading comments like this one, whether heart-felt or not, is just so emotionally draining. it’s tough for me to not get bitter with anger and despair i empathize with you
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# ? May 18, 2018 22:50 |
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:Gun ownership is a choice you stupid gently caress, and not one that has a measurable impact on the quality of your life The funniest poo poo about Dead Reckoning's post is how he interprets concern over the state of gun violence in America as spite for gun owners. He sees an attempt to reduce the homicide/suicide rate as a personal affront to gun owners, because having to buy a gun safe and go to yearly training is just too high of a cost for saving any lives
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# ? May 18, 2018 22:54 |
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Augh, you filthy gun-grabbers just hate gun-nuts because they keep killing innocent people! You disgust me!
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# ? May 18, 2018 22:56 |
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QuarkJets posted:The funniest poo poo about Dead Reckoning's post is how he interprets concern over the state of gun violence in America as spite for gun owners. khwarezm posted:I'm fully prepared to say that I harbor vast amounts of spite towards people who think that their useless toys are more important than human lives. QuarkJets posted:He sees an attempt to reduce the homicide/suicide rate as a personal affront to gun owners, because having to buy a gun safe and go to yearly training is just too high of a cost for saving any lives
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# ? May 18, 2018 23:34 |
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Dead Reckoning posted:
"I am confused by all your fancy regulations and also they don't do anything"
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# ? May 18, 2018 23:42 |
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Dead Reckoning posted:
i consider you a garbage person because of your words and deeds and your obsession with your murder toys you think that's spite but that is a judgment of your character that is, if anything, much too merciful. you are a bad person, you should be treated like a bad person, and we should all understand that you and your ilk are directly responsible for this murder spree and all the others
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# ? May 18, 2018 23:44 |
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mommy the mean people are calling me a bad person because i consider my idiot toys more important than a few dead kids they're so spiteful
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# ? May 18, 2018 23:45 |
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Dead Reckoning posted:
exactly how many cops (that's "the state", btw, it isn't going to be THE LIBS knocking on your door) are you willing to shoot to keep them from lawfully taking your now-illegal gun after the 2nd is repealed, because if the number is zero then the gun wasn't protecting you anyway and if it's more than zero you're the kind of person who puts their property rights and choice of hobby over the safety of others & therefore shouldn't have a gun.
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# ? May 19, 2018 00:00 |
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Jaxyon posted:"I am confused by all your fancy regulations and also they don't do anything" evilweasel posted:i consider you a garbage person because of your words and deeds and your obsession with your murder toys evilweasel posted:huh dumb reckoning is trying to dismiss actual statistics by people who know what they're doing based on his own say-so again, let's all listen to what is surely a reasoned and intelligent opinion
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# ? May 19, 2018 00:10 |
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Dead Reckoning posted:I'd suggest that the people who are most strident in their calls for more gun control are the least knowledgeable about current gun regulations. I also don't see any reason to support further regulation when the proponents of that regulation can't even explain how it is supposed to achieve their purported goals. Hahahahahaha you are a serious piece of poo poo. People have gone in great depth, you just don't care and dismiss it.
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# ? May 19, 2018 00:12 |
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Jaxyon posted:Hahahahahaha you are a serious piece of poo poo. How is asking questions like, "what is this supposed to accomplish?" or, "doesn't this seem inconsistent with the way we treat other public harms?" being dismissive?
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# ? May 19, 2018 00:21 |
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Dead Reckoning posted:Would you countenance a restriction on your right to privacy in the name of public safety if you thought it was nothing but security theater? Would you reject actual solutions and data if they don't fit into your worldview, because you feel that your hobby is more important than good for society? clearly, yes
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# ? May 19, 2018 00:24 |
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right to privacy, a thing that is equivalent to right to GUN
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# ? May 19, 2018 00:34 |
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stone cold posted:right to privacy, a thing that is equivalent to right to GUN Privacy is a chump right
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# ? May 19, 2018 00:40 |
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Rent-A-Cop posted:The right to gun is enumerated tho No, there is no right to gun. Have a nice day.
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# ? May 19, 2018 00:44 |
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Dead Reckoning posted:Would you countenance a restriction on your right to privacy in the name of public safety if you thought it was nothing but security theater? On the other hand, making it harder to get guns demonstrably makes it harder to get guns
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fishmech posted:No, there is no right to gun. Have a nice day. Have a blessed weekend.
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# ? May 19, 2018 00:47 |
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Dead Reckoning posted:How is asking questions like, "what is this supposed to accomplish?" or, "doesn't this seem inconsistent with the way we treat other public harms?" being dismissive? How is waving to us from your hill and saying "right here, this is the hill I want to die on, yes even today with all the dead kids and poo poo! I want to die here! I WANT TO DIEEE" being productive?
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# ? May 19, 2018 00:49 |
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Dead Reckoning posted:Would you countenance a restriction on your right to privacy in the name of public safety if you thought it was nothing but security theater? The problem of course is you are using your feelings. Ya no poo poo gun havers "feel" gun control proposals are bullshit, but their feelings on the matter aren't rational. As long as the bar is just "someone feels it will be useless" then we will never get anything done. The data overwhelmingly shows that the US current paradigm for gun control is ineffective. The constitution and SCOTUS have also been clear that regulation of firearms is fine. So maybe we can quit bellyaching and suggesting the constitution necessitates unfettered access to guns.
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# ? May 19, 2018 00:56 |
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Rent-A-Cop posted:Go read the first reply in this thread lol Hey thanks, I worked hard to make sure the proper tone was set for *fart* In this hour of tragedy, we must concentrate on what really matters: The fate of the poor gonne used in texas today.
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# ? May 19, 2018 00:59 |
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Sooner or later someone like me is going to get enough power to take all the guns away. They will probably listen to some classical music first. Then they will take Dead Reckoning's gun and only his and make him watch in clockwork Orange regalia as over 80 billion dollars is spent to make a rail gun specifically to shoot his gun into the center of Sol.
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# ? May 19, 2018 01:03 |
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Hey, let's just say you do have RIGHT TO GUN. With that as the frame here, why will you not be willing your re-examine your right? To save children who publicly marched in many hundreds of thousands to say "perhaps be sensible about your rights, and please stop letting us die?" e- I have THE RIGHT to go around in public, in a bone-chilling blizzard wearing only short pants and nothing else. However. KickerOfMice fucked around with this message at 01:09 on May 19, 2018 |
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Dead Reckoning posted:Would you countenance a restriction on your right to privacy in the name of public safety if you thought it was nothing but security theater? Public harm, you say
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# ? May 19, 2018 01:14 |
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"Ah-hah, I'll quote this post that perfectly illustrates his point! He'll be so owned" - Dead Reckoning My dude if stamp collecting kept leading to massive sprees of stamp-based murders over and over then people would start demanding more regulation be applied toward stamp collectors. What you don't seem to get is that it's not spite toward people for simply liking guns, it's spite for valuing their liking of guns over the lives of others. A bunch of children get blasted away by a dude with a gun and your first thought isn't "how do we prevent this from happening again", it's "how do I make sure that my toys don't get taken away" QuarkJets fucked around with this message at 01:52 on May 19, 2018 |
# ? May 19, 2018 01:48 |
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Dead reckoning has been making the "inevitable legislative response" post for years
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# ? May 19, 2018 01:55 |
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dead reckoning should have been permabanned for years
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# ? May 19, 2018 01:57 |
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botany posted:dead reckoning should have been permabanned for years or dead (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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# ? May 19, 2018 02:30 |
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sean10mm posted:Side note, gun nuts HATE THE gently caress out of these people, google "fudd" to see what I mean. They blame them for the 1994 AWB passing, among other things.
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# ? May 19, 2018 04:34 |
And of course DR kramers in with only the hottest of takes that what we're doing is fine and everything is fine while 8 (10? I can't keep track of this poo poo anymore) kids are getting cold on a slab. Here, lemme dig something up real quick: LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:You want concessions but concessions need leverage, and gun nuts have no leverage anymore. There aren't enough people willing to fight for gun nuts to overcome this wave, there aren't enough people who believe that at least common sense gun control will work, and there isn't a psychologist on the planet who wouldn't consider someone who kramers in to tell people to use the right terminology when someone kills 20 people with an AR to have sociopathic tendencies. The insanity they've been engaged in over the past couple decades has ensured a massive upswell in young people who are not willing to drop gun control anymore because our schools aren't safe and that's loving wrong in the richest nation on the planet. and I really have to believe this will happen at some point in the relatively near future because if it doesn't then gently caress us all.
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# ? May 19, 2018 06:01 |
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It won't sorry
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# ? May 19, 2018 10:28 |
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banned from Starbucks posted:It won't sorry Just like gay marriage right?
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# ? May 19, 2018 11:55 |
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I mean gun control passed in 1994 in spite of more right wing Democrats and more households owning a gun. The NRA and Republicans were crazy then too. It was a weak compromise mess but still.
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# ? May 19, 2018 12:11 |
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Stretch Marx posted:Just like gay marriage right? You're right those two things are absolutely the same
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# ? May 19, 2018 20:11 |
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banned from Starbucks posted:You're right those two things are absolutely the same They're both things that a minority of conservatives have said will never ever happen
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# ? May 19, 2018 21:29 |
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gun sales can only go through dealers, disarm people that make threats of violence, commit domestic violence etc, require a gun safety course before someone can buy a gun, require safe storage, man slaughter charges for parents that leave guns around for their 4chan son to shoot up schools with, have the ATF find their god drat nuts and crack down on bumpstocks, binary triggers, pistols that have an arm brace instead of a buttstock and thus are totally not illegal short barrel rifles and all the other clever ways people have to get around machine guns and short barrel rifle laws, stop doing feature bans at the state/city level, outlaw pistol purchases without a concealed carry permit, have a national standard for concealed carry permit (in states like georgia you pay x5 and get it in the mail a month later) allow law enforcement to track guns and the FDC to research gun violence States like california doing feature bans makes it harder for other states/the federal government to regulate guns. Gun laws like what California has isn't going to happen anytime soon in 35/50 states, but better regulation would be easier to push through if Republicans didn't have California to screech about PookBear fucked around with this message at 21:56 on May 19, 2018 |
# ? May 19, 2018 21:50 |
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also DR has been told he can't post in the gip current events thread without getting banned I don't know why you nerds haven't learned yet
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# ? May 19, 2018 21:51 |
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45 ACP CURES NAZIS posted:but better regulation would be easier to push through if Republicans didn't have California to screech about has such a thing ever happened
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# ? May 19, 2018 23:48 |
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Polygynous posted:has such a thing ever happened Republicans use the clinton magazine ban and California gun laws as proof that any gun regulation is democrats coming to take their guns.
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