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Twelve by Pies
May 4, 2012

Again a very likpatous story
Remember when Glenn Beck hated Trump during the election and talked about how Trump displayed all the signs of being fascist and he was worried about what would happen to the country if Trump was elected?

Today on Glenn Beck's show he got so mad about the AP reporting on Trump's "they're not people, they're animals" statement that he put on a MAGA hat and says he's going to vote for Trump in 2020 because Trump makes the libs mad.

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Corsair Pool Boy
Dec 17, 2004
College Slice

Twelve by Pies posted:

Remember when Glenn Beck hated Trump during the election and talked about how Trump displayed all the signs of being fascist and he was worried about what would happen to the country if Trump was elected?

Today on Glenn Beck's show he got so mad about the AP reporting on Trump's "they're not people, they're animals" statement that he put on a MAGA hat and says he's going to vote for Trump in 2020 because Trump makes the libs mad.

In fairness, that quote was taken wildly out of context. The proceeding sentence was about gangs.

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010
Remember when Beck put his piss in a jar with a Obama bobble head?

xergm
Sep 8, 2009

The Moon is for Sissies!

PhazonLink posted:

Remember when Beck put his piss in a jar with a Obama bobble head?

They're just still mad about Piss Christ.



Wikipedia posted:

The piece later caused a scandal when it was exhibited in 1989, with detractors, including United States Senators Al D'Amato and Jesse Helms, outraged that Serrano received $15,000 for the work, and $5,000 in 1986[11] from the taxpayer-funded National Endowment for the Arts.

Ivan Shitskin
Nov 29, 2002

I've never read or listened to Jordan Peterson but he has a pretty badass Lenin painting on his wall.

Ague Proof
Jun 5, 2014

they told me
I was everything
"I keep lots of paintings and communist memorabilia in my house to remind myself constantly of the danger of communism" - Professor A. Normal Mann

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

Crunch Buttsteak posted:

So, by "enforced monogamy", is he suggesting that society should bring back laws criminalizing sex out of wedlock? For one, that'll never work, and second, that's not going to help any of the "failed males" he claims to want to see succeed - limiting someone's legal amount of sexual partners to one is just going to make women that much more choosy, only increasing their "sexual market value" that chuds always complain about.

I realize that Jordan's entire thing is just kinda implying stupid poo poo instead of outright saying it, but I really want to hear more about what he means by "enforced monogamy". He seems to be implying that governments should essentially provide a sex worker-to-wife service, and I'd loving love to see a supposed Intellectual Dark Web powerhouse flop-sweat on a stage trying to defend that.

What he's really saying in all this is "everyone should live like the ideal 1954 North American suburb family and be very Christian". That's what his stuff all amounts to in the end. This will solve all problems because of Reasons That Are Very Smart.

bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice

MANime in the sheets posted:

In fairness, that quote was taken wildly out of context. The proceeding sentence was about gangs.

I'm not willing to extend Trump any benefit of doubt until it has been explicitly proven that he deserves it in a given situation. What color do you imagine the skin of the people he is talking about in this situation is?

Hint: "rapists, drug dealers, and some, I assume, are good people"

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

-=SEND HELP=-


Pillbug

MANime in the sheets posted:

In fairness, that quote was taken wildly out of context. The proceeding sentence was about gangs.

Based on stuff he's said before there's no real reason to be fair. His is the same movement that argued in favor of taking no Syrian refugees at all ever because one might be a terrorist. Also said that taking Mexican immigrants is bad even if they do it legally because only the worst come across and we have enough gangs, thanks.

He is not exactly known for having good opinions about not white people.

Ivan Shitskin
Nov 29, 2002

Peterson also seems to love weird cosplay.





Some more of his communist art:





He's got a shitload of art. His whole shtick is that he hates postmodernism right? So he seems to fill his place with as much modernist art as he can find.

Spun Dog
Sep 21, 2004


Smellrose

Kenzie posted:

He's got a shitload of art. His whole shtick is that he hates postmodernism right? So he seems to fill his place with as much modernist art as he can find.

His schtick is that communism is bad unless you are redistributing girlfriends.

FronzelNeekburm
Jun 1, 2001

STOP, MORTTIME
Even in context, it's hard to tell what Trump thinks of non-MS-13 immigrants, or if he even believes non-criminal immigrants exist. Remember, he's intentionally splitting up immigrant families so they can be detained longer.

FronzelNeekburm fucked around with this message at 02:16 on May 19, 2018

Twelve by Pies
May 4, 2012

Again a very likpatous story
Even if he is talking about gang members, it'll get applied to all Mexican immigrants as a means to justify discrimination against them, like when ICE lied about a Dreamer's ties to MS-13 so they could deport him.

Crunch Buttsteak
Feb 26, 2007

You think reality is a circle of salt around my brain keeping witches out?
Yeah, Trump stopped deserving the benefit of the doubt about this kind of poo poo a long while ago. Even if, in his head, he was solely intending on talking about violent gang members, the fact that he didn't specify more is extremely careless. In-context, he said that phrase only after describing "people coming into the country", and not specifying that he was only talking about MS-13 gang members.

A depressingly-large amount of his voter base is totally okay with rounding up anyone tanner than a paper bag and either shipping them off, imprisoning them indefinitely, or just shooting them. Using dehumanizing language like that even adjacent to these issues is just going to rile those people up even further.

Of course, Trump and his team undoubtedly know this by now, so I'm perfectly willing to apply willing nefariousness to this piece of poo poo rear end in a top hat. Anyone getting angry about the backlash can go gently caress themselves.

also lol imagining Glenn Beck as not being a Trump voter the first time around

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


trump said there were "good people" on both sides when one side was neo-nazis. even if he's just talking about criminals when he says "animals" he only uses that language when the criminals are brown.

this is a guy who called for the execution of the central park five and never took it back even when they were proved innocent.

he gets no benefit of the doubt and law enforcement and he conflate law-abiding immigrants with actual criminals all the loving time.

Groovelord Neato fucked around with this message at 01:40 on May 19, 2018

SimonCat
Aug 12, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
College Slice

Is he friends with Dan Akroyd?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN82k0f9uyM

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


https://twitter.com/KenJennings/status/997627373565624322

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness
when he asks you questions it's more like "enhanced interrogation" am I right fellas

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


https://twitter.com/RacismFactory/status/997603103540170752

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

-=SEND HELP=-


Pillbug

That should continue with "...because people like me have 100% rigged the game against you."

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


shapiro thinks if you fail it's all on you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfGciFH7BuI

he doesn't go uhhh why are all these black people laughing at the stupid poo poo i just said. he double downs. triples down. quadruples down.

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

ToxicSlurpee posted:

That should continue with "...because people like me have 100% rigged the game against you."

there's a vast global little people conspiracy?

OneEightHundred
Feb 28, 2008

Soon, we will be unstoppable!

DreamShipWrecked posted:

I love this kind of thinking because statistically speaking there are more women than men in the US (basically everywhere, in fact) and yet we have these super rich Chads hogging all the women for themselves what with their fifty three wives each.
I can slightly sympathize with the point in the sense that there are cases like Mormon lost boys that point to it being a pretty destructive phenomenon if it scales up enough, but that's missing some other key points: It depends on a dynamic where it's okay for men to have multiple partners, but not women (and we're talking about an ideological ecosystem where "cuck" is the ultimate insult), and as has been pointed out repeatedly, it's not just that they think they deserve sex, they think they deserve sex with attractive women. They want their porn fantasies to be real.

FronzelNeekburm posted:

Even in context, it's hard to tell what Trump thinks of non-MS-13 immigrants, or if he even believes non-criminal immigrants exist. Remember, he's intentionally splitting up immigrant families so they can be detained longer.
Taking the quote out of context isn't good, but the context in the first place is bringing up MS-13 again, and the reason he brings up MS-13 has much less to do with their seriousness as an actual threat than it does with its ability to stoke xenophobia. Ditto for the "deportation bus" thing in Georgia. They can say "oh well we're just loading it up with the lovely ones." The purpose is to make people worried that there are a lot of lovely ones, and to normalize deportation.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

I kinda hate how these assholes get so close to a revelation then take a hard turn away from it into Bad Takes Town. Like yeah, hassling dudes for being virgins and encouraging them to gently caress (women) ASAP is lovely and responsible for several elements of toxic masculinity.

I guess points for going the old-school Christian Purity route instead of more incel crap.

Trivia
Feb 8, 2006

I'm an obtuse man,
so I'll try to be oblique.

Groovelord Neato posted:

shapiro thinks if you fail it's all on you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfGciFH7BuI

he doesn't go uhhh why are all these black people laughing at the stupid poo poo i just said. he double downs. triples down. quadruples down.

The ol' "spout as much poo poo at once so the opposition spends all it's time countering my bullshit" approach.

Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!

OneEightHundred posted:

I can slightly sympathize with the point in the sense that there are cases like Mormon lost boys that point to it being a pretty destructive phenomenon if it scales up enough, but that's missing some other key points: It depends on a dynamic where it's okay for men to have multiple partners, but not women (and we're talking about an ideological ecosystem where "cuck" is the ultimate insult), and as has been pointed out repeatedly, it's not just that they think they deserve sex, they think they deserve sex with attractive women. They want their porn fantasies to be real.

This takes us down a weird road because if this is the argument then the best way for them to own the libs is now to sleep with women who aren’t conventionally “hot”, but creating that framing inherently reinforces our cultural standards of attractiveness and then I start feeling like we’re the baddies in some way I can’t put my finger on yet

OneEightHundred
Feb 28, 2008

Soon, we will be unstoppable!

Pirate Radar posted:

This takes us down a weird road because if this is the argument then the best way for them to own the libs is now to sleep with women who aren’t conventionally “hot”, but creating that framing inherently reinforces our cultural standards of attractiveness and then I start feeling like we’re the baddies in some way I can’t put my finger on yet
The best way for them to own the libs is to get into a functional relationship, or just find a way to make peace with it and move on.

I'm reminded a bit of Ross Douthat writing the dumb "maybe the solution is sex robots" piece. It's not about sex, it's about validation, and they're not gonna feel validated by loving a robot the same way that they don't want to settle for losing their virginity to someone that they think is below what they deserve.

What makes it so particularly toxic is the combination of the sense of entitlement and the projection of their own sense of worthlessness on to the women that they're only interested in as a means to the end of proving themselves.


Also, another ridiculous implication of what Peterson is saying is that if we just stop the alpha-studs from hogging all of the women, then women will decide they have no choice but to hook up with the Elliot Rodgers of the world.

sheep-dodger
Feb 21, 2013

MANime in the sheets posted:

In fairness, that quote was taken wildly out of context. The proceeding sentence was about gangs.

Even violent criminals are human and shouldn't be dehumanized like this, especially when it is their dehumanization in the US prison system that created the group they operate in. Hth.

HackensackBackpack
Aug 20, 2007

Who needs a house out in Hackensack? Is that all you get for your money?
That Black Rifle real estate website is the best. Just pictures of dudes with guns juxtaposed by photos of devastated, bombed-out cities.

At the bottom of the page there's this:

quote:

We are an Equal Housing Opportunity Firm.

This means our clients are from all walks of life.

However, the only snowflakes welcome here are from the clouds.

:cloud:

CuddleCryptid
Jan 11, 2013

Things could be going better

Leofish posted:

That Black Rifle real estate website is the best. Just pictures of dudes with guns juxtaposed by photos of devastated, bombed-out cities.

At the bottom of the page there's this:


:cloud:


quote:

For the Home Seller: As a home seller or landlord you have a responsibility and a requirement under the law not to discriminate in the sale, rental and financing of property on the basis of race, color, religion, sex, handicap, familial status, or national origin. You cannot instruct the licensed broker or salesperson acting as your agent to convey for you any limitations in the sale or rental because the real estate professional is also bound by law not to discriminate. Under the law, a home seller or landlord cannot establish discriminatory terms or conditions in the purchase or rental; deny that housing is available, or advertise that the property is available only to persons of a certain race, color, religion, sex, handicap, familial status, or national origin.

Nah

paternity suitor
Aug 2, 2016

Ague Proof posted:

"I keep lots of paintings and communist memorabilia in my house to remind myself constantly of the danger of communism" - Professor A. Normal Mann

This is clearly not a man on the verge of a mental break

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

Paris is an embarrassment, holy poo poo

https://twitter.com/Matsamon/status/997994670029340672?s=20

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong
Here's some classic right wing media - a tape from 1993 telling Christians that it's very important to vote for people like Trent Lott to keep America from collapsing due to GOVERNMENT DEBT and TAXES:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQICk0Rt5ko

Also features Grover Norquist from before he discovered vaping.

Republicans
Oct 14, 2003

- More money for us

- Fuck you


Faustian Bargain posted:

What happens when incels are inevitably paired up with the female versions of themselves instead of the living blow up doll they imagine?

At that point a giant pair of hands strips them, picks them up and mooshes their gentials together like a little kid who got his hands on his sister's barbie dolls. This is repeated until a baby happens.

TyroneGoldstein
Mar 30, 2005

Republicans posted:

At that point a giant pair of hands strips them, picks them up and mooshes their gentials together like a little kid who got his hands on his sister's barbie dolls. This is repeated until a baby happens.

Why am I picturing both of the participants having mildly disgusted looks on their faces.

landgrabber
Sep 13, 2015

sometimes i listen to rush limbaugh when i'm missing my dad. that dipshit was blasted in the car all childhood long

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.



Did Rush used to be less of a shithead or was I just more naive as a kid?

I remember 20+ years ago thinking that he pretty much didn't trust Bill Clinton and that America was awesome and everybody could succeed unless they were lazy.

Today I understand how that's leveraged to vilify the poor - but that was pretty much the status quo for the era.

He might have been just as awful as he is today, but not as open about it before the pills and Sandra Fluke. The RWM reaction to Obama emboldened that whole crowd, so it's kind of pointless trying to figure out when Rush went completely reprehensible.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

moths posted:

Did Rush used to be less of a shithead or was I just more naive as a kid?

I remember 20+ years ago thinking that he pretty much didn't trust Bill Clinton and that America was awesome and everybody could succeed unless they were lazy.

Today I understand how that's leveraged to vilify the poor - but that was pretty much the status quo for the era.

He might have been just as awful as he is today, but not as open about it before the pills and Sandra Fluke. The RWM reaction to Obama emboldened that whole crowd, so it's kind of pointless trying to figure out when Rush went completely reprehensible.

My recollection on first hearing him was he was more of a parody and rather satirical. I never got the impression he was meant to be taken seriously and, occasionally, he seemed to raise some fair points about liberal hypocrisy and looked at some things from a fresh angle.

Of course, the amount of stupid people who actually thought like Rush turned out to be an untapped vein of political entertainment and theater which has buttered Limbaugh's bread for decades now and spawned hundreds of imitators trying to one up him constantly.

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CuddleCryptid
Jan 11, 2013

Things could be going better

BiggerBoat posted:

My recollection on first hearing him was he was more of a parody and rather satirical. I never got the impression he was meant to be taken seriously and, occasionally, he seemed to raise some fair points about liberal hypocrisy and looked at some things from a fresh angle.

Of course, the amount of stupid people who actually thought like Rush turned out to be an untapped vein of political entertainment and theater which has buttered Limbaugh's bread for decades now and spawned hundreds of imitators trying to one up him constantly.

Poe's Law in in full effect for those kinds of guys. Even if he started off silly at a certain point he probably switched over to actually saying stuff. He's an entertainer, not a journalist, after all.

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