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The second that Bolsonaro starts to be a threat to Alckmin making it to the run off, it will be like what happened to Roseanna Sarney. Right now since the left is fragmented they still hope for a Alckmin-Bolsonaro scenario where PSDB can play th role of Macron. As for immigrants being reactionary, very few of the immigrants to the US, even the undocumented ones, were actually poor in Brazil. Brazilian immigration to the US tends to be much more middle class than other Latin American countries: http://funag.gov.br/loja/download/1195-BRASILEIROS%20NOS%20EUA_16_05_V_8_FINAL.pdf As a result, it is unsurprising that so many Brazilian immigrants fall into that pattern that I've discussed here: being super reactionary in Brazilian matters while also being fairly liberal in American politics because they are people who think that poor people in Brazil are unworthy of help but poor people in the US aren't (because they either need it themselves or because they want to fit in in NYC or Boston). Related: 
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American reactionaries haven't quite gotten to the point where they can break kayfabe, and openly show vicious Latin American style contempt for the poor because they still need poor people to vote for them.
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The part about reminiscing on the good old days hwere you had the right to rape your
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Apr 11, 2018 17:09
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Plutonis posted:The part about reminiscing on the good old days hwere you had the right to rape your Yeah, it might be fake, but I hear enough similar takes that either way it's appropriate.
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dead comedy forums posted:
something about this seems familiar
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:something about this seems familiar At some point, let's resign ourselves to accerlerationism.
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:something about this seems familiar lol, true but I think the situation here is a bit different because the guy is being seriously overestimated and people (ironically a lot of those are in the left) are thinking he is going to wipe the floor or something
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joepinetree posted:As a result, it is unsurprising that so many Brazilian immigrants fall into that pattern that I've discussed here: being super reactionary in Brazilian matters while also being fairly liberal in American politics because they are people who think that poor people in Brazil are unworthy of help but poor people in the US aren't (because they either need it themselves or because they want to fit in in NYC or Boston).
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Brazilian media.txt  For the uninitiated: the headline of one of the biggest Sao Paulo papers has a bombastic headline about "Ciro" receiving bribes. It's not until you get to the actual story that you read that it's Ciro Nogueira they are talking about, president of a party that supports Temer. Meanwhile, the name nearly everyone in Brazil thinks of when they hear "Ciro" is Ciro Gomes, opposition politician running for president who is somewhat allied with Lula.
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Apr 29, 2018 07:38
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I'm from the state which Ciro's family runs as a feud so I'm really queasy about having to vote for him
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Ciro Gomes is definitely super slimy. But it is still funny how obvious this was.
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Every single poll I've seen so far that excludes Lula puts Marina and Bolsonaro at around the same percentages before the second round, and estimates a +10% win for her once they're against each other. I know it's too early to predict anything, but I think that unless a scandal pops up, she'll probably take it.
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Metal Cat posted:Every single poll I've seen so far that excludes Lula puts Marina and Bolsonaro at around the same percentages before the second round, and estimates a +10% win for her once they're against each other. I know it's too early to predict anything, but I think that unless a scandal pops up, she'll probably take it. I think it's impossible to tell. Marina is pretty fragile and most of the media will turn on her if she is threatening the PSDB candidate. Also, in the very slim chance that Lula is able to leave jail before October, he'd be able to transfer a lot of votes if he is able to actually campaign for someone. I am starting to see some astroturfing of the NOVO candidate online. Either way, Brazil is hosed for the next few years because this whole thing has only increased party fractionalism, which will mean a lot more bribes to keep people in line. It's going to end up like the city council of Belo Horizonte, which has 22 parties in 41 seats.
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despicable quisling president Macri is currently clowning the Argentinian economy and selling it off to the IMF as the peso goes into a tailspin because he decided to get rid of capital controls the "markets" i.e. vampiric lich lords are "optimistic" https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/08/argentina-seeks-imf-loan-to-rescue-peso-from-downward-slide
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didn't macri win with venezuela and drug trade fearmongering?
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Top City Homo posted:despicable quisling president Macri is currently clowning the Argentinian economy and selling it off to the IMF as the peso goes into a tailspin because he decided to get rid of capital controls lol 2001 on repeat
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This declassified document has been making the rounds in Brazil recently: https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76ve11p2/d99?platform=hootsuite Brazilian dictators meeting with Kissinger to detail their summary execution policy.
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joepinetree posted:This declassified document has been making the rounds in Brazil recently:
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joepinetree posted:This declassified document has been making the rounds in Brazil recently: That one is cool because I've seen people claiming that the people killed by the doi-codi were killed "accidentally" during "interrogation" instead of being straight up executed.
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get that OUT of my face posted:bolsonaro is furiously scribbling notes Bolsonaro shrugged off Geisel’s alleged sanctioning of summary executions on Friday. “Who’s never given their kid a spank on the bum and then regretted it? These things happen,” he was quoted as saying by the Estado de São Paulo.
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Plutonis posted:Bolsonaro shrugged off Geisel’s alleged sanctioning of summary executions on Friday. “Who’s never given their kid a spank on the bum and then regretted it? These things happen,” he was quoted as saying by the Estado de São Paulo.
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Plutonis posted:Bolsonaro shrugged off Geisel’s alleged sanctioning of summary executions on Friday. “Who’s never given their kid a spank on the bum and then regretted it? These things happen,” he was quoted as saying by the Estado de São Paulo. oh my god
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Plutonis posted:Bolsonaro shrugged off Geisel’s alleged sanctioning of summary executions on Friday. “Who’s never given their kid a spank on the bum and then regretted it? These things happen,” he was quoted as saying by the Estado de São Paulo. Bostanaro
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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44094868quote:The regional attorney general in Chiapas, Arturo Pablo Lievano, originally said there was no evidence of bad intent and everything pointed to an accident. He said they may have been run off the road by a vehicle. Could somebody explain to me how is it possible for a regional government attorney to do this and still remain a prosecutor? doesn’t he make himself party to murder by so blatantly lying? I mean I get that mexican government is corrupt through and through, but it’s still a bit brazen to try and cover up a double murder in official statements.
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Cool take that people have started to present regarding the CIA report on the Junta tortures: Why should we trust them when they lied about Iraq's WMDs
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Plutonis posted:Cool take that people have started to present regarding the CIA report on the Junta tortures: Why should we trust them when they lied about Iraq's WMDs Given that there's a perfectly overlapping venn diagram of Bolsonaro fans and Trump fans, I don't understand why they aren't saying the CIA is a globalist organization showing a forged report to discredit the military and right-wingers. They already believe in all the other conspiracy points espoused in the Breitbart-esque online media environment anyway. Metal Cat has issued a correction as of 05:49 on May 15, 2018 |
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Plutonis posted:Cool take that people have started to present regarding the CIA report on the Junta tortures: Why should we trust them when they lied about Iraq's WMDs Amazing take for a foreigner to have: The CIA isn't bad
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ergh i biked that road, that makes me feel sick even traveled a bit with a guy from poland with the same first name
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Aliquid posted:ergh i biked that road, that makes me feel sick i feel we should report you to the mexican authorities
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Took the bus down that road, was explicitly warned to do it during the day because at night there are bandits
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i just watched O Processo and it reminded me how much of a loving sham the impeachment was.
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At least Maduro will keep the dream alive 
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Frijolero posted:At least Maduro will keep the dream alive i hope he starts to actually nationalize and hand poo poo over to workers much faster
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Top City Homo posted:i hope he starts to actually nationalize and hand poo poo over to workers much faster
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btw it's pretty interesting how no one spontaneously gives a poo poo about the world cup anymore. dunno if it's because the yellow shirt became tarred because the 'patriot' impeachment protesters kept wearing it, the fact that literally all the players are from european teams and aren't playing in the brasileirão or even because of the loving 7-1
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Plutonis posted:btw it's pretty interesting how no one spontaneously gives a poo poo about the world cup anymore. dunno if it's because the yellow shirt became tarred because the 'patriot' impeachment protesters kept wearing it, the fact that literally all the players are from european teams and aren't playing in the brasileirão or even because of the loving 7-1 it's like that everywhere in every sport. in hockey, don cherry made a career out of rooting for good Canadian boys and hating lazy Swedes and enigmatic Russians get that OUT of my face has issued a correction as of 04:45 on May 21, 2018 |
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Top City Homo posted:i hope he starts to actually nationalize and hand poo poo over to workers much faster lol
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Plutonis posted:btw it's pretty interesting how no one spontaneously gives a poo poo about the world cup anymore. dunno if it's because the yellow shirt became tarred because the 'patriot' impeachment protesters kept wearing it, the fact that literally all the players are from european teams and aren't playing in the brasileirão or even because of the loving 7-1 It's literally nowhere in the news in the US, but I'm sure it's a big deal right now for any country that qualified.
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