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Wheezle
Aug 13, 2007

420 stop boats erryday
https://twitter.com/workmanalice/status/998388305396838400

Seems like they could tbh.

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hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe
The first time my grandmother came to Australia she said she would make the christmas cake. She wasn't sure if Australia had icing sugar (I think this was the first time she'd ever left the UK) so she packed herself a bag of it in her luggage to bring it over.

Needless to say my father had a hell of a time convincing customs my nan wasn't smuggling drugs.

Zenithe
Feb 25, 2013

Ask not to whom the Anidavatar belongs; it belongs to thee.
There was an episode of border force or whatever it's called and this bloke from Liberia wanted to bring in some custard powder in an unmarked bag. It was custard powder and all, but....

Mate.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
https://www.wikihow.com/Deal-With-Your-Mom-Doing-Drugs

bandaid.friend
Apr 25, 2017

:obama:My first car was a stick:obama:
Building a great ugly fence of top of Parliament House. Yeah there's been some serious undefined threats
Police, border force and intelligence super ministry. It's a necessary step to ensure national security
Power to demand ID at airports. You can never be too careful
Following basic security procedure. Nah mate she'll be right

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

JBP posted:

What about baking sugar

I'm ok with cops tasting all white powders.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
Hey guys the Federal government doesn't want to pay for all those autistic children on the NDIS so they've asked the egg heads to just change the definition of autism away from it being a spectrum and instead it should be defined as tiers.

bandaid.friend
Apr 25, 2017

:obama:My first car was a stick:obama:
https://www.buzzfeed.com/bradesposito/gosford-church-right-wing-extremists

quote:

Five men interrupted an evening mass at the Anglican Parish of Gosford on Saturday, in what the church's Archdeacon of the Central Coast, Father Rod Bower, has labeled an act of terrorism.
Bower explained that midway through his 6pm mass on Saturday evening the group of five men, one of whom was dressed as Jesus and another as a Roman soldier, stormed into the small church holding a whip, a megaphone, and a sword that was later revealed to be fake.
"I didn't know it was fake, though," said Bower, "and neither did any parishioners."
The men – who appear to be linked to the small, right-wing, stunt group Cooks Convicts – later uploaded footage of the incident to Facebook. The footage shows a half-full room reacting in shock to the men's arrival, with some screaming in fear.

iajanus
Aug 17, 2004

NUMBER 1 QUEENSLAND SUPPORTER
MAROONS 2023 STATE OF ORIGIN CHAMPIONS FOR LIFE



I've been stuck at this job for two hours watching a computer reset and have had to listen to 2gb (or whatever they call it here in Brisbane) the entire time

Kill me

Les Affaires
Nov 15, 2004

more like 2gbs

cohsae
Jun 19, 2015

iajanus posted:

I've been stuck at this job for two hours watching a computer reset and have had to listen to 2gb (or whatever they call it here in Brisbane) the entire time

Kill me

Sorry sounds like you've already died and gone to hell.

gucci bane
Oct 27, 2008



why are they talking about an emptied out sugar packet on a table in estimates? what a bunch of annoying cunts

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
A NEW plan to tweak the definition of autism could see thousands of Australians with significant support needs unable to access the National Disability Insurance Scheme.

The plan, being worked on by the National Disability Insurance Agency with researchers, will reverse the idea of an autism “spectrum” and place people into specific “subtypes” based on individual characteristics instead, The Australian reports.

The redesign will reportedly come into effect shortly before state and federal support programs for ­autism end next year, potentially leaving thousands with little or no support.

The Australian first reported at the weekend the NDIA was working on a secret plan to restrict the access of autistic people to the NDIS by preventing them from qualifying “automatically” for taxpayer funded support.

It’s part of a wider plan to rein in costs of the $22 billion NDIS.

Now, it has been revealed moves to tweak the definition of autism are being worked on by researchers from the Co-operative Research Centre for Living with Autism along with the NDIA.

The news comes after Australians were shocked by a horrific case where several teens have been charged after a defenceless 14-year-old Quinn Lahiff-Jenkinsa was allegedly assaulted by a group of teenagers outside a school in Melbourne’s northern suburbs.

The researchers are working to develop a “profile” of different types of autism based on “individual characteristics”, which would identify new “subtypes” of autism rather than acknowledging a “spectrum”.

It could potentially allow the NDIA to link specific support packages to the new subtypes.

The research adds weight to revelations at the weekend the NDIA is working on a plan to restrict the access of autistic people to the NDIS.

An NDIA staff member reportedly published part of the plan last week by updating a list of pre-qualifying conditions for the scheme and the update was then taken down the next day.

But The Australian reports the change removed Level Two of three levels of autism, the second most severe, from the list of conditions that automatically qualified for entry to the NDIS.

The NDIA has expressed concern about some people with autism being placed on the NDIS where “eligibility criteria have not otherwise been met”.

“While this work has been underway for some time, it ­remains at a discussion stage and no decision has been made as to whether the Lists should be changed,” a statement on the NDIS website yesterday said.

The reported changes come as the number of NDIS participants with autism rises.

About 142,000 Australians are currently in the NDIS. The percentage with autism has risen from 28 to 29 per cent in the past year.

ABS statistics reveal the number of Australians with Autism rose by 42.1 per cent to 164,000 between 2012 and 2015 alone.

iajanus
Aug 17, 2004

NUMBER 1 QUEENSLAND SUPPORTER
MAROONS 2023 STATE OF ORIGIN CHAMPIONS FOR LIFE



cohsae posted:

Sorry sounds like you've already died and gone to hell.

If I could find something sharp I would have gouged my ears off by now

Zenithe
Feb 25, 2013

Ask not to whom the Anidavatar belongs; it belongs to thee.


master_race.jpg

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
So autism is like a fighting game? What’s the starfox tier of autism?

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
What could possibly go wrong

bell jar
Feb 25, 2009

mods pls change my name to autism tweaker

birdstrike
Oct 30, 2008

i;m gay

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

So autism is like a fighting game? What’s the starfox tier of autism?

your posts

froglet
Nov 12, 2009

You see, the best way to Stop the Boats is a massive swarm of autonomous armed dogs. Strafing a few boats will stop the rest and save many lives in the long term.

You can't make an Omelet without breaking a few eggs. Vote Greens.
So a friend of mine is not only disabled, but also autistic, and for some reason is a supporter of the LNP.

When I pointed out the contradiction inherent to her views (she was particularly displeased with the changing definition of autism), she didn't really have any answers for me beyond "well Labor are still poo poo".

I pointed out the greens have always been for funding disability services. She said she wasn't going to become a single issue vote on that alone because something something drat hippies.

While conversation was a big WTF.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Autistic runs the gamut of assholes, dicks, small minded, and selfish as well as normal, kind, nice and otherwise.

Robodog
Oct 22, 2004

...how does that work?

Anidav posted:

Hey guys the Federal government doesn't want to pay for all those autistic children on the NDIS so they've asked the egg heads to just change the definition of autism away from it being a spectrum and instead it should be defined as tiers.

they already did this with physical disability for the dsp so it aint surprising, its all just ways to save money by cutting people who dont know how to label their poo poo according to a rubric

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
good luck trying to get autism rewritten as a tier system rather than a spectrum tyhough, you'll only be opposed by doctors, psychiatrists and psychologists and the whole basis of autism science.

Halo14
Sep 11, 2001

froglet posted:

So a friend of mine is not only disabled, but also autistic, and for some reason is a supporter of the LNP.

When I pointed out the contradiction inherent to her views (she was particularly displeased with the changing definition of autism), she didn't really have any answers for me beyond "well Labor are still poo poo".

I pointed out the greens have always been for funding disability services. She said she wasn't going to become a single issue vote on that alone because something something drat hippies.

While conversation was a big WTF.

Guess her parents always voted for them.

norp
Jan 20, 2004

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP

let's invade New Zealand, they have oil

Lid posted:

good luck trying to get autism rewritten as a tier system rather than a spectrum tyhough, you'll only be opposed by doctors, psychiatrists and psychologists and the whole basis of autism science.

Don't try and bring science into lnp policy debates

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

Can we finally talk about Christianity’s inability to assimilate into our culture, now they’re bringing their sectarian conflicts here too, it’s gone too fuckin far, let’s live export THESE animals

CrazyTolradi
Oct 2, 2011

It feels so good to be so bad.....at posting.

Vic LNP must be running on fumes money wise because Matthew Guy and a bunch of MP's were having lunch at my local pizza joint.

I always suspected that place had Mafia links but drat.

Zenithe
Feb 25, 2013

Ask not to whom the Anidavatar belongs; it belongs to thee.
I'm not going to defend the LNP obviously, but there is an ongoing struggle about how ASD is defined, and this coupled with the fact there are no diagnostic tests for it is going to make this a really difficult area. There are plenty of ASD folks who require zero assistance, and plenty who need loads, and you kind of need to make a call at some point as to who needs it. This should be up to medical professionals though, not the government.

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe

froglet posted:

So a friend of mine is not only disabled, but also autistic, and for some reason is a supporter of the LNP.

When I pointed out the contradiction inherent to her views (she was particularly displeased with the changing definition of autism), she didn't really have any answers for me beyond "well Labor are still poo poo".

I pointed out the greens have always been for funding disability services. She said she wasn't going to become a single issue vote on that alone because something something drat hippies.

While conversation was a big WTF.

Clearly they're a support of the many nuanced policy positions of the LNP such as:

Yay Coal
Eat the poor
gently caress reffos?

EDIT: Realtalk though, ask "Why gently caress Labor?" make them assess that position and explain it to you. Even if you tell them you have your own reasons for disliking Labor and want to hear theirs.

The Before Times
Mar 8, 2014

Once upon a time, I would have thrown you halfway to the moon for a crack like that.

Zenithe posted:

I'm not going to defend the LNP obviously, but there is an ongoing struggle about how ASD is defined, and this coupled with the fact there are no diagnostic tests for it is going to make this a really difficult area. There are plenty of ASD folks who require zero assistance, and plenty who need loads, and you kind of need to make a call at some point as to who needs it. This should be up to medical professionals though, not the government.

I mean, there's no blood test, but there are some pretty good tools for diagnosis (if you're AMAB). There's already a system where a doctor can say 'i reckon this person can do x hours of work per week' but centrelink now use their own assessors who tend to vastly overestimate both chances for improvement and capacity to work.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

Les Affaires posted:

more like 2gbs

froglet
Nov 12, 2009

You see, the best way to Stop the Boats is a massive swarm of autonomous armed dogs. Strafing a few boats will stop the rest and save many lives in the long term.

You can't make an Omelet without breaking a few eggs. Vote Greens.

hooman posted:

Clearly they're a support of the many nuanced policy positions of the LNP such as:

Yay Coal
Eat the poor
gently caress reffos?

EDIT: Realtalk though, ask "Why gently caress Labor?" make them assess that position and explain it to you. Even if you tell them you have your own reasons for disliking Labor and want to hear theirs.

She's immigrated here from the US. So I imagine it's because a lot of left-leaning Americans are still very far to the right in Australian discourse.

I pointed out that conservatives often have a lot in common with Greenies, but the discourse seems to often forget that. Like climate change - any conservative worth their salt would know the heat trapping properties of carbon dioxide, and anyone who was truly conservative would understand the risks inherent to climate change. There's multiple complex systems interacting with each other, it's practically impossible to mitigate against all the possible scenarios, and it's quicker and easier to enact a dramatic reduction in carbon emissions.

She also claimed Labor are grandstanders and want the picture of them being seen to do something rather than actually doing something. I pointed out that the NDIS is a Labor policy, and even if the LNP want to fund it fully, they can't without changing the definition of disability because caring for people with disabilities is expensive, the money has to come from somewhere, and most LNP donors will stop donating if the LNP have to either increase taxes or close existing loopholes to improve revenue.

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

CrazyTolradi posted:

Vic LNP must be running on fumes money wise because Matthew Guy and a bunch of MP's were having lunch at my local pizza joint.

I always suspected that place had Mafia links but drat.

Wrong account, mith

this broken hill
Apr 10, 2018

by Lowtax
river cottage australia is mostly slow-paced kindly crap, but there's one incredible episode where the hipster protagonist and his boyfriend, a buff doe-eyed butcher, baker and salami coinesseur, kill and dismember a goat on-screen and then sacrifice its flayed corpse in a churchyard in the presence of thirty-odd rural pensioners and dismayed schoolchildren

Intoluene
Jul 6, 2011

Activating self-destruct sequence!
Fun Shoe

iajanus posted:

I've been stuck at this job for two hours watching a computer reset and have had to listen to 2gb (or whatever they call it here in Brisbane) the entire time

Kill me

4bc is the Brisbane equivalent of 2gb.

CrazyTolradi
Oct 2, 2011

It feels so good to be so bad.....at posting.

You Am I posted:

Wrong account, mith
Can it, Leisure Suit Larry.

The Before Times
Mar 8, 2014

Once upon a time, I would have thrown you halfway to the moon for a crack like that.

You Am I posted:

Wrong account, mith

CT is my partner you silly

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
Victorians can't even take a crew thread joke

tithin
Nov 14, 2003


[Grandmaster Tactician]



Ugh, if k loses ndia access I'm hosed

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The Before Times
Mar 8, 2014

Once upon a time, I would have thrown you halfway to the moon for a crack like that.

Anidav posted:

Victorians can't even take a crew thread joke

ur a crew thread joke

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