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10% is an overestimation, but don't forget that some of these effects are compounding--dps compositions in this game work by layering multiplicative stacking buffs on top of each other, so going from a good composition to a bad composition hits individual players harder than going from a good job to a bad one
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also missing enrage by 30 seconds is still, like, a year in terms of fight structure
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Now I'm curious -- what's the worst possible composition?
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SKULL.GIF posted:Now I'm curious -- what's the worst possible composition? any one that includes me! dohohoho
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SKULL.GIF posted:Now I'm curious -- what's the worst possible composition? For DPS probably SAM/MNK/BLM/RDM
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SKULL.GIF posted:Now I'm curious -- what's the worst possible composition? 4 RDM, 2 WHM, 2 DRK.
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Kitfox88 posted:any one that includes me! dohohoho  ... 
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SKULL.GIF posted:Now I'm curious -- what's the worst possible composition? MRD/MRD/CNJ/CNJ/ACN/ACN/ACN/ACN
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this, incidentally, is why dps balance in this game is always going to be slightly hosed--the value of a raidwide dps boost is dependent on how good the rest of the party is, and also whether it's 4 or 8 man content so SE is going to have a very very hard time balancing blm/sam to contribute the appropriate amount of raid dps in 8-man savage raiding content without just making them completely out of line in the kind of content 95% of the playerbase spends almost all of their time in
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admittedly, they weren't shy about breaking a class right in half for 4-mans when they designed stormblood whm
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Even that's mitigated somewhat if you get two DPS who don't AoE and thus everything survives your 5-6 holies + Assize.
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EponymousMrYar posted:Even that's mitigated somewhat if you get two DPS who don't AoE and thus everything survives your 5-6 holies + Assize. I almost never AoE on my SAM in dungeons because a true samurai focuses only on the single enemy in front of them gets hit with every aoe, dies
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Solo Wing Pixy posted:SAM looks cool by the way. It might even be viable soon? In my static that can't quite clear god kefka, our sam is pulling almost 7k DPS on O6S and around 6k on the other 3 fights. That seems pretty viable to me?
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:I wonder what kind of crazy Yotsuyu Primal we'll get tomorrow. Odds seem extremely good that it's Tsukiyomi considering the name of the patch.
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Kitfox88 posted:I almost never AoE on my SAM in dungeons because a true samurai focuses only on the single enemy in front of them That's actually an optical illusion; the bladework of a true samurai is so fast that the eye can't actually follow it, until such point that they blow all their TP AOEing and go "gently caress it where's my midare button". I haven't played a lot of SAM (or anything), but holy poo poo the AOE rotation is costly. Cabbit fucked around with this message at 01:28 on May 22, 2018 |
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:I hope not having a Level 60 Gatherer yet won't screw me too much on the Namazu quests. It seems like there's different objectives for Gathering versus Crafting, so you can level with either.
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SAM's AOE rotation averages out to 112 TP per GCD, which is 2 more than NIN and DRG. Slightly less than that actually, since sometimes you have meikou shisui up so you can do 3 AOE finishers in a row. (140*4/5, the fifth gcd is tenka goken which costs 0.)
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Cabbit posted:That's actually an optical illusion; the bladework of a true samurai is so fast that the eye can't actually follow it, until such point that they blow all their TP AOEing and go "gently caress it where's my midare button". You don't even get the skillspeed or damage up buffs from them like you do your normal rotations, so I just do the single target ones but then use the 2 pretty icons AoE cast instead of the BIG DICK DAMAGE one you get with 3 pretty icons edit: will i be able to buy the tomestones i need to trade in for i330 weapons this patch or will i need to finally remove the 'do deltascape 1.0' quest from my journal via completion still
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Mymla posted:SAM's AOE rotation averages out to 112 TP per GCD, which is 2 more than NIN and DRG. Slightly less than that actually, since sometimes you have meikou shisui up so you can do 3 AOE finishers in a row. Meikyou's up a lot less than NIN's Mudras and DRG's save some tp by refreshing Heavy Thrust. SAM's doing proper AoE rotations run out faster than DRG's even with Invigorate.
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a crisp refreshing Moxie posted:You can usually get a jump on the beastman tribes if you hop on to do them before the daily reset, however. Speaking of which, is there any word yet on what if any preq sidequests are needed for that? The Moogle and Anata ones were a small loving eternity.
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ImpAtom posted:Speaking of which, is there any word yet on what if any preq sidequests are needed for that? The Moogle and Anata ones were a small loving eternity. https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/8kq7e4/namazu_prerequisites/
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Kitfox88 posted:edit: will i be able to buy the tomestones i need to trade in for i330 weapons this patch or will i need to finally remove the 'do deltascape 1.0' quest from my journal via completion still Deltascape Normal is easy and it's on a roulette now, just queue it and do it
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rujasu posted:Deltascape Normal is easy and it's on a roulette now, just queue it and do it But people might make fun of me for messing up the mechanics and then i'll be too scared and drop duty and have a 30 minute lockout and lose my tomestone efficiency and 
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Much appreciated.
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I skimmed the dialogue for those Namazu quests, admittedly. I only vaguely recall something about the Lupan in Namai.
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Kitfox88 posted:But people might make fun of me for messing up the mechanics and then i'll be too scared and drop duty and have a 30 minute lockout and lose my tomestone efficiency and I can run them w/you on aether DC (all 3 roles maxed). It's ok we can be bad together.
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Full patch notes are up, in case y'all haven't seen them yet. https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/13e322580acb8e9861160a6e08ccabfaff09eeee E: Also not sure if this has been brought up yet, but it's huge The following items can now be equipped by male characters: - Bunny Crown - Bunny Bustier - Bunny Loops - Bunny Tights - Bunny Pumps - Bunny Chief Crown - Bunny Chief Bustier - Bunny Chief Loops - Bunny Chief Tights - Bunny Chief Pumps dumb. fucked around with this message at 03:56 on May 22, 2018 |
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ImpAtom posted:Odds seem extremely good that it's Tsukiyomi considering the name of the patch. It's either going to be Tsukuyomi, or it's going to be a Return of the Horde-style thing with a rematch against whatever Zenos has become. I'm actually leaning toward the latter. I'm looking forward to seven hours from now. 
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dumb. posted:Full patch notes are up, in case y'all haven't seen them yet. I picked a good time to resub
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Cabbit posted:That's actually an optical illusion; the bladework of a true samurai is so fast that the eye can't actually follow it, until such point that they blow all their TP AOEing and go "gently caress it where's my midare button". You laugh, but this is literally what Huge Banana's animation is. You rarely see it because your face is stuffed into the butt of some boss, but it's basically you shooting out a wave of super fast attacks like Alucard button mashing with Crissaegrim or something. And yes the AoE rotation is demanding of your TP but you will goddamn do it mister. Shame that pubbie summoner who still plays the game like he's level 20.
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Leofish posted:Main site is here: http://www.ffxivgardening.com/ i gotta say this sounds a lot like pipeweed crossbreeding from LotRO which (while mostly pointless) was hella fun to do for some reason how much does a cottage cost? i just got to the required storm rank for buying property and i hadn't gone to actually look into buying a house
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Thundarr posted:You laugh, but this is literally what Huge Banana's animation is. You rarely see it because your face is stuffed into the butt of some boss, but it's basically you shooting out a wave of super fast attacks like Alucard button mashing with Crissaegrim or something. The SAM AOE rotation is a far sight more engaging than any other AOE rotation I've come across so far, so yeah, you better believe I'm going to slam that poo poo out and be thankful for the opportunity.
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ImpAtom posted:Odds seem extremely good that it's Tsukiyomi considering the name of the patch. See I thought that but then there's the whole "Family using a mirror to lure Yotsuyu out" makes me think it's Ammy not Tsuki.
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:See I thought that but then there's the whole "Family using a mirror to lure Yotsuyu out" makes me think it's Ammy not Tsuki. Amaterasu also isn't a bad guess. I'm just favoring Tsuki since Sun was last patch instead of this one. SpaceDrake posted:It's either going to be Tsukuyomi, or it's going to be a Return of the Horde-style thing with a rematch against whatever Zenos has become. I'm actually leaning toward the latter. It feels a little too soon for us to hit Maximum Zenos considering how they've been building it up though we'll see. I am hoping for some kind of super-zenos fight eventually though.
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This wasn't in the preliminary patch notes:quote:A new shop has been added, allowing players to further enhance the craftable item level 350 gear introduced in patch 4.2.
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:See I thought that but then there's the whole "Family using a mirror to lure Yotsuyu out" makes me think it's Ammy not Tsuki. Can't it be both?
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