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Literally every one who dropped the bar on themselves said the same thing though, no one benches if they think "yep definitely don't have a solid grip on this". Can you set some pins or something to chest level so you don't get dead on us
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There's a rack at work that has safety bars that I use for benching, so if it dropped it would land on that. Still don't have gym membership.
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May 21, 2018 05:21
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People who worry about thumbless bench grip should probably just not bench because it isn’t more dangerous per rep either way. Grip failure is responsible for almost none of the catastrophic injuries, tearing a pec or a shoulder joint failing and causing someone to dump it on their face is. Suicide grip is fine
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May 21, 2018 11:22
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Khorne posted:YOU'RE TRYING TO LEAD A CARRIAGE WITHOUT A HORSE IF YOU AREN'T DOING NEGATIVES i dunno much but when people talk about negatives i think they're like talking about specifically focusing on lowering it slowly instead of just normally doing the exercise? i do the last few reps of curls super slow because it just feels better for some reason. dunno if it's helping or not.
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May 21, 2018 11:32
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Time posted:People who worry about thumbless bench grip should probably just not bench because it isn’t more dangerous per rep either way. Grip failure is responsible for almost none of the catastrophic injuries, tearing a pec or a shoulder joint failing and causing someone to dump it on their face is. Suicide grip is fine i've seen more then one person drop the bar on themselves benching with a suicide grip, and it had nothing to do with their shoulder or chest giving out
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May 21, 2018 12:45
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Lactose Is Wack posted:i've seen more then one person drop the bar on themselves benching with a suicide grip, and it had nothing to do with their shoulder or chest giving out Congrats on lifting during the special ed gym period at school
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May 21, 2018 12:48
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Time posted:Congrats on lifting during the special ed gym period at school I mean yeah totally, there sure aren't hundreds of videos on YouTube of people dropping the bar on themselves when using suicide grip. No siree
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May 21, 2018 13:45
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Suicide grip is like squatting with the bar on your wrists instead of shoulders, or deadlifting with a rounded back: it’s not the proper form for the exercise and leads to injuries 
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May 21, 2018 13:55
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DoubleT2172 posted:I mean yeah totally, there sure aren't hundreds of videos on YouTube of people dropping the bar on themselves when using suicide grip. No siree Post them.
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May 21, 2018 13:57
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sassassin posted:Post them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nux_GQk6lsI Spotter rolled it out of his hands lol.
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May 21, 2018 13:58
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DoubleT2172 posted:I mean yeah totally, there sure aren't hundreds of videos on YouTube of people dropping the bar on themselves when using suicide grip. No siree You can find just as many videos of people failing with their thumbs around the bar. You can find a ton of videos of failing with safety pins up. The non-glib answer is this- if you can bench with your thumb around the bar without intense shoulder, elbow, wrist, or other pain then yes, you should do that because why wouldn’t you. When having your thumb around the bar makes doing the lift impossible then go ahead and go thumbless because your other option is not doing any pressing work at all. The added risk is so negligible and only the most risk averse people in the world (online forums full of anxious goons) spend time worrying about it. Fwiw: I got hosed up really bad in the army and they sent me to the Mayo Clinic to rehab in house and they had me doing suicide grip once pressing was back on the table
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May 21, 2018 14:06
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Khorne posted:Also, hypertrophy is good for strength. Sorry I can't provide a citation for this wild claim. Dr Mike has a great bit where he asks students how what determines who is strongest. They usually outsmart themselves and say stuff like "neural adaptation, genetics, technique" to which his reply is "It's who has the biggest muscles, you fuckin' idiots!" Also the eccentric (negative) portion of the lift does promote hypertrophy a lot but that just means don't do poo poo like olympic lifts or drop weights after every rep if you want to be a bodybuilder
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May 21, 2018 14:07
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Time posted:People who worry about thumbless bench grip should probably just not bench because it isn’t more dangerous per rep either way. Grip failure is responsible for almost none of the catastrophic injuries, tearing a pec or a shoulder joint failing and causing someone to dump it on their face is. Suicide grip is fine I've dropped the bar a couple times and it starts with a wrist-flinch which seems to come on because of fatigue in the wrist/forearm  Although I know a guy who had his radius or ulna (I forget which) snap during a bench press and it hosed him up pretty good.
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May 21, 2018 15:59
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Wrists are more likely to flinch when using a thumbed grip. Thumbless you're not under the same pressure to keep your wrists straight.
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May 21, 2018 16:06
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What about bulldog grip
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May 21, 2018 17:31
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I banged my knee on the coffee table two hours ago and it still hurts. No gym for me, then.
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May 21, 2018 17:34
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I've never felt even close to dropping the bar or losing my grip, with normal or suicide. Failures have always been not being able to the get bar up after I carefully lower it down. I started to try using suicide grip because my thumbs hurt with normal grip, and now use it because it feels more natural and better even if my thumbs would allow normal grip again. You could go the gym and bench or do chin ups or something.
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May 21, 2018 17:35
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I could imagine losing your grip with a football or swiss bar and your hand/arm just getting maimed in the process
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May 21, 2018 17:57
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I swear to god, by the time I'm done with my Friday workout I'm thinking about nothing except two rest days where I can take 1.5 hour naps on each.
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May 21, 2018 19:43
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It really is a nice feeling, when at the end of a workout you feel you did everything you could. Doing more would be too much. On this day, or for this short time at least you were the best you could be.
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May 21, 2018 19:55
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drugs are amazing. there's a guy in the gym who's gone from being an awkward twink to a loving muscle god in a couple of months. like i didn't recognize him at first 
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May 21, 2018 21:36
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sassassin posted:I banged my knee on the coffee table two hours ago and it still hurts. No gym for me, then. Something that's worked great for me in the past for bangs and bruises like that is going to the gym anyway and telling myself I'm just going to do my warmups. Usually it stops hurting by the end and I lift my weights anyway, but even if you don't do that, I bet the light activity helps.
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May 21, 2018 21:54
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MikeCrotch posted:Dr Mike has a great bit where he asks students how what determines who is strongest. They usually outsmart themselves and say stuff like "neural adaptation, genetics, technique" to which his reply is "It's who has the biggest muscles, you fuckin' idiots!" that just aint true tho bigger muscles dont mean more strength ive seen plenty of smaller dudes be super strong
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May 21, 2018 22:09
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Maybe it’s whoever has the most efficient origins and insertions
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May 21, 2018 22:14
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Doc Hawkins posted:Something that's worked great for me in the past for bangs and bruises like that is going to the gym anyway and telling myself I'm just going to do my warmups. I envy people who can train through innocuous pains without things getting much much worse and being forced to stop training for months as a result.
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May 21, 2018 22:15
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sassassin posted:I envy people who can train through innocuous pains without things getting much much worse and being forced to stop training for months as a result. I was more trying to describe a zero-budget facsimile of physical therapy, but maybe you need the real thing.
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May 21, 2018 22:18
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hemale in pain posted:drugs are amazing. there's a guy in the gym who's gone from being an awkward twink to a loving muscle god in a couple of months. like i didn't recognize him at first yeah that kinda scares me if its indeed that quick
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May 21, 2018 22:33
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What’s the go to stack these days? I see giant kids in the gym now and when I was at school it was deca/tren/test iirc. Most those boys are saggy as poo poo now but one is some bodybuilding comp winner and genuinely impressive
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May 21, 2018 22:40
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guys I'm getting better at picking things up and putting things down and today I'm wearing something that for a good year I couldn't fit into comfortably
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May 21, 2018 22:54
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Doc Hawkins posted:I was more trying to describe a zero-budget facsimile of physical therapy, but maybe you need the real thing. I should really go see about getting shoulder surgery.
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May 21, 2018 23:00
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Gonna dig the slingshot out of some moving boxes and bench stupid poo poo this week
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May 22, 2018 00:57
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new lessons learned today lesson 1: try to avoid working out on less than 4 hours sleep lesson 2: if lesson 1 doesn't stick, don't make it a leg day
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Fartbox posted:that just aint true tho Bigger muscles are related to strength but there's lots of stuff going in in what we call strength. If your muscles that are visible are really big but the support muscles are weak, and you try to do some real world feat of strength, someone with smaller visible muscles can be better at it than you. If you train in a way that gives you little body awareness or coordination, same thing. Having a strong back is more important 99% of the time than having big biceps but many people don't train with that in mind, etc.
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doverhog posted:Bigger muscles are related to strength but there's lots of stuff going in in what we call strength. If your muscles that are visible are really big but the support muscles are weak, and you try to do some real world feat of strength, someone with smaller visible muscles can be better at it than you. If you train in a way that gives you little body awareness or coordination, same thing. Having a strong back is more important 99% of the time than having big biceps but many people don't train with that in mind, etc. shut UP dweeb!!!!!
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May 22, 2018 01:16
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Lol yeah you nerd! #justlift #salamibois
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May 22, 2018 01:36
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Bob Morales posted:Gonna dig the slingshot out of some moving boxes and bench stupid poo poo this week I've been wanting to get one of these to use as a T2 exercise on AtS or whatever but I dunno if I should wait and "save it" so to speak. My bench max is still hovering somewhere between 215-225 probably.
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May 22, 2018 09:31
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I'm about to hit a single plate on bench press. Salami gainz irl.
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May 22, 2018 12:22
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Vargatron posted:I'm about to hit a single plate on bench press. Salami gainz irl. The sense of accomplishment you'll feel when benching 135 for reps becomes a reality.
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May 22, 2018 15:06
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benzine posted:The sense of accomplishment you'll feel when benching 135 for reps becomes a reality. Yeah, "I started going to the gym today" is a big morale booster.
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Some of us skinny manlets have to start out small, sir!
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