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How DARE they subject the Ro-Bear Berbils to that design. I don't get people getting upset over this and I watched the poo poo out of the original as a kid. Hell if this does well it'll bring more light on the old series and there'll be an incentive to bring that back as a comic/miniseries/movie/anything. They should be excited that Thundercats isn't being completely forgotten.
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a cursory glance at calarts complaints and responses on twitter tells me that the originator of this complaint was the child molester john k complaining about the iron giant of all things and that the creators of steven universe didnt even attend calarts so
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May 22, 2018 23:43
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duck trucker posted:How DARE they subject the Ro-Bear Berbils to that design. I remember there was a Thundercats reboot comic about 10 years ago. Wilykit had grown up to become Mumm-ra's sex slave while Cheetara was being held prisoner in his henchmen's sex dungeon. I don't know if this series or a different one was the one that had the incredible line, "Tonight we mark our territory... with BLOOD!"
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May 22, 2018 23:46
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I don't like this new Thundercats animation, but I also tried to re-watch the original and it was loving garbage. Basically...gently caress these CHUD, mouth-breathing, harassing pieces of poo poo. That's my take. Next caller?
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May 22, 2018 23:46
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They did. In 2011. CN hosed it over repeatedly, then when LEGO gave them a better toy deal for something they dumped it a quarter of the way into the second season's production. Naturally, this mean it was a bad reboot and we needed another cheap-to-make noodlearm gag show.
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ryonguy posted:They did. In 2011. CN hosed it over repeatedly, then when LEGO gave them a better toy deal for something they dumped it a quarter of the way into the second season's production. Naturally, this mean it was a bad reboot and we needed another cheap-to-make noodlearm gag show. Look. Get the gently caress out of here.
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May 22, 2018 23:48
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Wheat Loaf posted:I remember there was a Thundercats reboot comic about 10 years ago. Wilykit had grown up to become Mumm-ra's sex slave while Cheetara was being held prisoner in his henchmen's sex dungeon. Lol yeah it was complete poo poo. site posted:a cursory glance at calarts complaints and responses on twitter tells me that the originator of this complaint was the child molester john k complaining about the iron giant of all things and that the creators of steven universe didnt even attend calarts so "People who complain about CalArts style are pedos" is the best take out of this whole thing. Wait, did I say best take? I meant most blatant misuse of logic this side of a Trump twitter post.
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May 22, 2018 23:48
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I think it's just people pissed that the new Cheetara design will be harder to jack off to.
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May 22, 2018 23:49
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SlothfulCobra posted:Really? It's such a nothing to get worked up over. At worst it's a bad cartoon that mocks fans of its original. There's no higher social principles involved, or anything vaguely political. What is there to snowball into something like Gamergate? A lot of people my age (mid-to-late twenties) have somehow managed to cargo-cult 80's nostalgia because it's something we all vaguely remember from our childhoods due to syndication and as teenagers it's what all the authoritative grognards had the most loud attraction to. Don't ask me to explain it, but it hit some people hard.
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May 22, 2018 23:51
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Lurdiak posted:Look. Get the gently caress out of here. Skwirl posted:I think it's just people pissed that the new Cheetara design will be harder to jack off to.
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May 22, 2018 23:51
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the 2011 reboot was just a shameless aping of the Avatar faux-anime style and also fuckin sucked
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The best thing about Thundercats was it produced that “MOTHER...FUCKER” .wav that endlessly delighted 17-year-old me.
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May 22, 2018 23:53
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ryonguy posted:Lol yeah it was complete poo poo. He didn't call you a pedo, he said the person who started complaining about Cal Arts is a pedo and that Cal Arts doesn't have the deathgrip on the industry you claim it does. I don't follow children's cartoons closely so maybe I missed it, but you bringing up the Cal Arts thing is the first time I ever heard about it
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People who think CalArts has a loving house style have never been to an Arts focused college. Like, not to take classes, they may have never been in the same county as one. It’s literally the opposite of how poo poo works.
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Alaois posted:the 2011 reboot was just a shameless aping of the Avatar faux-anime style and also fuckin sucked If by aping you mean "shared some of the same staff" then I guess it was just aping it, yeah.
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There are people who just don't like it who said that they did not like it and moved on. Set foot into any place that discusses cartoons outside said and there are so freaking outs unending over a remake of a 30 year old cartoon. Even if it's not a politics thing there's something deeply wrong with people who have this as the only problem in their lives and cannot calm down about it.
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May 22, 2018 23:58
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business hammocks posted:The best thing about Thundercats was it produced that “MOTHER...FUCKER” .wav that endlessly delighted 17-year-old me. Hey Thundercats also had one of the best character themes of all time  .https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E11XJ83tzjw
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Skwirl posted:He didn't call you a pedo, he said the person who started complaining about Cal Arts is a pedo and that Cal Arts doesn't have the deathgrip on the industry you claim it does. https://www.cartoonbrew.com/feature-film/directors-of-disney-pixar-and-dreamworks-films-22482.html  Mr. Maltose posted:People who think CalArts has a loving house style have never been to an Arts focused college. Like, not to take classes, they may have never been in the same county as one. It’s literally the opposite of how poo poo works. Lol okay sure thing dude, sorry about your vision problems.
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wow you discovered that calarts has been heavily funded by disney and a lot of people who go there end up working for disney wasnt this a discussion about cartoon network a minute ago
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Wait poo poo the croods came out in 20 loving 11?
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site posted:wow you discovered that calarts has been heavily funded by disney and a lot of people who go there end up working for disney Ok the article you're too lazy to read posted:A similar chart could be made for TV series produced at Nick and Cartoon Network. CalArts alumni have created Spongebob, El Tigre, Dexter’s Lab, Powerpuff Girls, My Life as a Teenage Robot, The X’s, Time Squad, Adventure Time, Fairly OddParents, The Regular Show, the list goes on and on.
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Mr. Maltose posted:People who think CalArts has a loving house style have never been to an Arts focused college. Like, not to take classes, they may have never been in the same county as one. It’s literally the opposite of how poo poo works. Yeah this whole "CalArts style" meme is total nonsense that's being spread around by disingenuous people who have no clue about animation. At this point it is largely just a codeword for "SJW art don't like it bluch". It's been used as a pejorative for years, during which time the popular stylistic trends in animation have changed repeatedly, which sort of underlines its meaninglessness. Half the time it means, "I think anything that isn't a pseudo-realistic style is bad". https://twitter.com/wyattmihn/status/997671032239611904 Note the weird focus on gender as opposed to things like composition, silhouette and motion i.e. actual animation concerns.
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It seems like they have a pretty decent track record to me. 
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If Cal Arts is dominating every mainstream area of animation for 20+ years, and we can simply use our eyes to see that not everything in the past 20 years has looked the same, then how does this jive with the "point" that a singular Cal Arts "style" exists?
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Also like, listing Spongebob as an example of a "CalArts style" cartoon is hilarious because it's obviously heavily influenced by Ren and Stimpy, whose creator, an infamous crank, originated the pejorative use of the term to describe styles he didn't like. This also underlines just how useless it is as a descriptor. Most of the cartoons in that list have notably distinct styles, even those that came out in the same time period.
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funny how all those shows in the 00s had a particular style that evolved into a different style in the 2010s but also calarts is all one style and again this started with someone complaining about the iron giant which as far as i can tell doesnt look anything like the powerpuff girls or steven universe, and even those two compared to each have major stylistic differences, but maybe my eyes are just bad and going off this master list that was also linked to in your article, calart is heavily represented but not a dominating force anyways, im done humoring you
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Android Blues posted:Also like, listing Spongebob as an example of a "CalArts style" cartoon is hilarious because it's obviously heavily influenced by Ren and Stimpy, whose creator, an infamous crank, originated the pejorative use of the term to describe styles he didn't like. This also underlines just how useless it is as a descriptor. Most of the cartoons in that list have notably distinct styles, even those that came out in the same time period. What are you talking about Tarzan and Toy Story 2 look basically identical
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Android Blues posted:Yeah this whole "CalArts style" meme is total nonsense that's being spread around by disingenuous people who have no clue about animation. At this point it is largely just a codeword for "SJW art don't like it bluch". It's been used as a pejorative for years, during which time the popular stylistic trends in animation have changed repeatedly, which sort of underlines its meaninglessness. Half the time it means, "I think anything that isn't a pseudo-realistic style is bad". I saw this tweet on Polygon's actually researched takedown of the "CalArts" complaint (hint: people were making the same complaint 20 years ago and it was just as untrue then as it is now) and I have to assume it's being ironic that they chose a picture of some identical anime things as the "good" art. Also original Thundercats was godawful 80s toy commercial garbage that somehow made He-Man seem good in comparison, so getting as far away from that as possible can only be a positive thing as far as I'm concerned. And I was the prime age for it when it was being made. I guess animation just needed its "gate"
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I miss the Sunbow look from the early-mid 80s. I guess it’s no longer profitable for cartoons to be made in huge Korean sweatshops and so we’ll never see its grungy style again?
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Endless Mike posted:I saw this tweet on Polygon's actually researched takedown of the "CalArts" complaint (hint: people were making the same complaint 20 years ago and it was just as untrue then as it is now) and I have to assume it's being ironic that they chose a picture of some identical anime things as the "good" art. I'm not really defending the argument, but those are two characters who are twins.
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May 23, 2018 00:39
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But when will the <blank>companies start making products tailored specifically for me, a middle classed 18-40 yr old suburban heterosexual white male?!
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business hammocks posted:I miss the Sunbow look from the early-mid 80s. I guess it’s no longer profitable for cartoons to be made in huge Korean sweatshops and so we’ll never see its grungy style again? Pretty much almost every style older than 20 years is gonna be hard to reproduce at this point because of costs. Guess we are going to have to wait for computer tech to get to the point where it can replicate hand animated things cheaply. I imagine the future is AI driven replacing the sweatshops of old, with keyframe work being heavily supported by software as well, though it will still have actual artists at the wheel directing the look of the project.
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good day for a bris posted:Synergy! Also, noone in their target audience would recognize the others. As opposed to Bumblebee, Jessica Cruz, and Zatanna? I dunno if "Wonder Girl" is as hard a sell as the the ones who don't have an S or a bat on their chest. I'm not like heartbroken over it or anything, it's just an odd choice. The shorts used Wonder Girl I thought.
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SonicRulez posted:As opposed to Bumblebee, Jessica Cruz, and Zatanna? I dunno if "Wonder Girl" is as hard a sell as the the ones who don't have an S or a bat on their chest. I'm not like heartbroken over it or anything, it's just an odd choice. The shorts used Wonder Girl I thought. True but I know from experience my four year old knows who Wonder Woman is usually. It's one thing to see a new character, it's another to see a replacement version. Edit: For the record I am speaking as to the mind of a four year old here, not those CHUDs who unironically bitch about "Ess Jay You-Know-Whos" and unironically think Sam Wilson, Jane Foster, and Miles Morales are diluting the brand of their favorite characters. good day for a bris fucked around with this message at 01:24 on May 23, 2018 |
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Lurdiak posted:I don't know, I think this one has legs. It's sucked in a lot of latent reactionary hatred and general dissatisfaction with Cartoon Network and modern animation in general that people have had for years. Every idiot who hates Teen Titans Go is hopping onto this bandwagon. Everyone who misses realistically proportioned muscleman cartoons is on board too. Everyone who hates how lgbt-friendly Steven Universe is feels validated by the hatred this is getting. Everyone who doesn't understand how the costs of animation have skyrocketed in the past 20 years resulting in simpler animation is all too happy for a scapegoat. Honestly though I think it's only good for the show in the long run. I mean if you look on Youtube for Teen Titans Go the second result behind actual clips from the show are these dumbasses making reaction videos and long-winded rants about how ~terrible~ it is that the big bad network is ruining their nostalgia and how no one actually likes the show and it's only being broadcast because a whole loving company doesn't want money but actually just wants to piss them off personally. Only now I guess instead of 20-30 year olds it'll be middle-aged nerds whining on camera. What I'm saying is that people will not simply not watch the show, like you're supposed to do with things you don't like, they're going to watch it to make sure they can tell everyone how bad it is, ironically giving it the views and interest it needs to live. I still can't believe these idiots use soy boys as an unironic insult.
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The other two Thundercats shows looking like every other action cartoon of their era is the funniest part about this whole thing.
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hiddenriverninja posted:The best thing about Thundercats is the logo Thundercats and Cobra logos are both really cool.
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Monaghan posted:Hey Thundercats also had one of the best character themes of all time Thundercats had a pretty fantastic overall soundtrack. But like most '80s cartoon with good soundtracks it was the same dozen or so tracks over and over again for dozens of episodes. It's not quite at the level of Inspector Gadget of Mysterious Cities of Gold, but then again you can't really compare anyone favorably to Shuki Levy when it comes to that.
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