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Needed something to listen to on a long drive and decided to try my first audio book with Ravenor Rogue. drat, that was a good choice. Still not finished it yet but I'm really enjoying this way of rewding so far. Only bad part is I cant really flip back through pages to find some detail or reference easily. How are 40k audiobooks in general?
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mythicknight posted:Needed something to listen to on a long drive and decided to try my first audio book with Ravenor Rogue. drat, that was a good choice. Still not finished it yet but I'm really enjoying this way of rewding so far. Only bad part is I cant really flip back through pages to find some detail or reference easily. The audio dramas suck IMO but the unabridged audiobooks proper are great, basically without exception. The two or three main readers they have are good and clear and also they wind up having to do a bunch of messed up voices for various more or less human characters which is VERY funny since they're all like properly english narrators otherwise.
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May 20, 2018 22:44
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Wolfsbane review: First thoughts are that it gives really good characterization to Russ, who has really been lacking good coverage in this series so far. I've felt like the series stalled after the double-whammy of Calth/Prospero and has been treading water ever since, with a few stand out episodes featuring preparations on both sides. Wolfsbane is a game changer in that it makes the Siege an imminent thing. Russ and his shaggyboys are hanging out at Terra for refit and resupply, Horus is out and about tying up his reserve lines and logistical chains prior to heading to Terra, and a certain Admech Magos-in-training is mucking about with some Techno-heresy. The Emperor, and almost all of the custodes, bar a cameo from Valdor are locked in the webway, and Malcador is running Terra with the assistance of Dorn, Sanguinius, and the Khan, the latter two showing up about a third of the way through. Russ spends about 80% of the book reflecting on his past with Horus, the Emperor, and his life on Fenris. He thinks about his legion, and how the adopted identity and wolf-ness is a plus and a minus in the execution of their role as imperial arbiters. There are a couple of cool spiritual/vision quest segments, including one that is 1:1 with an earlier episode in Russ' life, and features some really entertaining voice acting from Mr. Keeble. There's also a quick hit of what the "original vision" of Russ might've been, with hints that it may actually be the real Russ, and that the scattering was all part of the plan, rather than a chaotic incursion. The last scene on the Vengeful spirit was intense, with the Rout expending itself in a single huge charge against Horus and his ship. Most of the wolves that show up in the other novels end up dying, but there are new narratives being set up for the post-heresy follow through novels. Belisarius Cawl shows up and does weird, goofy poo poo, but the Admech/Mechanicum divergence and exploration of just how transhuman the AM/M really are was also great. Overall, I'd recommend picking this up. I try to pick my way through at least 1 40k book a week, as a break from the constant reading of professional and technical material. This was one of the few recent novels that I really savored, and I say that as a fan of neither legion or most of the characters.
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May 21, 2018 16:03
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Hidingo Kojimba posted:No idea about his 40K stuff, but he's probably the best writer of the Age of Sigmar bunch and Plague Garden basically single-highhandedly convinced me that actually Sigmarines can be pretty awesome in the right hands. Yeah Ayn Marx and immanentized convinced me it's worth at least giving the guy a shot, but this made me eager to just crack open the book I've been eyeing ASAP.
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May 21, 2018 17:13
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https://www.warhammer-community.com...ammerAdventures https://warhammeradventures.com HOLY loving poo poo. they are making warhammer 40k books for kids. Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 17:29 on May 21, 2018 |
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May 21, 2018 17:24
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If GW is serious with that, then Warhammer's grimdark days are numbered. The kids who grow up reading those comics will expect the "adult" material to be the same in tone.
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May 21, 2018 17:46
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Kurzon posted:If GW is serious with that, then Warhammer's grimdark days are numbered. The kids who grow up reading those comics will expect the "adult" material to be the same in tone. Nah, this is for Ham parents to indoctrinate their ham kids. The universe is 30 years old now, and I think I see GW pulling a star wars EU with their IP. The stinger at the bottom is really helpful in guiding this. To me, this seems like a move aimed at diversifying the potential customer base, and providing kids with a foothold to dive into the deeper stuff, not to reset the setting 100%. Look at the cover art, it's children, this is meant to be a friendlier face that will either a) bring kids in and keep them in, or b) seed long term prospects where a kid will at least be familiar with names, etc going in. Grimdark isn't just skulls and dreariness 24/7. Grimdark is everything from skulltropolis, USA, Terra to the Tau's sneaky racism, and all the way to the Necrons selling their souls in order to flash the finger to the Old ones. The setting is changing, but with 30ish years under it's belt that's more than warranted.
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Immanentized posted:Nah, this is for Ham parents to indoctrinate their ham kids. The universe is 30 years old now, and I think I see GW pulling a star wars EU with their IP. The stinger at the bottom is really helpful in guiding this. To me, this seems like a move aimed at diversifying the potential customer base, and providing kids with a foothold to dive into the deeper stuff, not to reset the setting 100%. Look at the cover art, it's children, this is meant to be a friendlier face that will either a) bring kids in and keep them in, or b) seed long term prospects where a kid will at least be familiar with names, etc going in. yeah definitely. but i just find it funny. this is for like 8 year olds and the warhammer setting is so loving bleak and violent and hosed up. Like star wars can be dark and violent but its no where near warhammer. https://warhammeradventures.com/
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I for one am looking forward to the adventures of Clifford the Big Red Cyber-Mastiff and Dora the Imperially Sanctioned Explorer.Warhammer Adventures posted:Life in the 41st Millennium is hard.
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May 21, 2018 21:04
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Dapper_Swindler posted:yeah definitely. but i just find it funny. this is for like 8 year olds and the warhammer setting is so loving bleak and violent and hosed up. Like star wars can be dark and violent but its no where near warhammer. Life on Earth in 2018 is loving bleak and violent and hosed up. 40K at its grimmest and darkest has nothing on a kid going to school and having to worry about getting shot by a classmate. This series is fine, and is no different than something like the D&D cartoon from the 80's. Hopefully, this will piss off all the idiots complaining about making 40K child-friendly will rage quit the hobby and get the gently caress out.
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This whole venture sounds amazing to me. Kids books for the Catholic space Nazis in all of us.
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May 21, 2018 21:25
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panascope posted:WARHAMMER ADVENTURES
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May 21, 2018 21:26
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I'm guessing the angle is they're gonna be straightforward adventure books for kids positioned as in universe propaganda books published in ultramar or something.
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May 21, 2018 21:37
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Another thing of note is that they're doing a new series called Black Library Summer Reading that's a bunch of five dollar novellas. http://www.simonandschuster.com/series/Black-Library-Summer-Reading
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40K for Kids!
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berzerkmonkey posted:Life on Earth in 2018 is loving bleak and violent and hosed up. 40K at its grimmest and darkest has nothing on a kid going to school and having to worry about getting shot by a classmate. I get it and i am not against it. good on them for trying to bring new blood into the fandom/hobby/whatever. i just find it funny and i kinda hope they try to make a cartoon.
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berzerkmonkey posted:Hopefully Panascope will write more of these. this and thats why i find it funny. its just an absurdly dark univivse so i curious how they will write it, they could get away with a ton if its for teens(YA fiction is dark as gently caress) but this is apparently for like 7 to 12 year olds. i will still probably get one for my little cousin.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:this and thats why i find it funny. its just an absurdly dark univivse so i curious how they will write it, they could get away with a ton if its for teens(YA fiction is dark as gently caress) but this is apparently for like 7 to 12 year olds. i will still probably get one for my little cousin. Let's not kid ourselves, Warhammer novels are not gonna be the first experience today's 7 to 12 year olds have with an uncaring world where they could be killed at any moment.
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Guy Goodbody posted:Let's not kid ourselves, Warhammer novels are not gonna be the first experience today's 7 to 12 year olds have with an uncaring world where they could be killed at any moment. Here in the U.S., we call this "school".
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To be fair young adult books and kids books in the late 90s and early 2000s were pretty wild. There seems to be an animorphs thread every couple months in GBS I own the entire Series in my parents garage Still Still and they're vacuum-sealed and there is some really really just plain hosed up disgusting weird stuff that happens in them
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Teenage dystopia novels are the bread and butter of kids reading material today. It's not that much of a stretch to start selling them ironic fascist propaganda. The Regimental Standard is really good reading. I liked the product recall for lasguns manufactured on necromunda. As a consolation for being sent unstable weaponry, the regiment received a shipment of plasma weapons locked to the overcharged setting to make up for the loss in firepower during the recall. Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 23:42 on May 21, 2018 |
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Guy Goodbody posted:Let's not kid ourselves, Warhammer novels are not gonna be the first experience today's 7 to 12 year olds have with an uncaring world where they could be killed at any moment. i know. i just find the concept weird and funny. i am more curious how they will tone down the grim darkness. as i said. i will probably buy this for my nephew for Christmas.
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God, I would love it if the books are in-canon, and are actually Imperial Propaganda leaflets. That makes them work on multiple levels.
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On next Issue little Billy's mom was captured by the Iron warriors, little Billy tried to save her, after miraculously surviving the journey she was found with the Deamonculaba, Billy was never the same after he saw what a reverse C section looks like. http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Daemonculaba
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People talk about Animorphs being grimdark, but loving Shade's Children was a successful YA novel. Warhammer is gonna be fine.
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Shockeh posted:God, I would love it if the books are in-canon, and are actually Imperial Propaganda leaflets. That makes them work on multiple levels. 
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Immanentized posted:Nah, this is for Ham parents to indoctrinate their ham kids. The universe is 30 years old now, and I think I see GW pulling a star wars EU with their IP. The stinger at the bottom is really helpful in guiding this. To me, this seems like a move aimed at diversifying the potential customer base, and providing kids with a foothold to dive into the deeper stuff, not to reset the setting 100%. Look at the cover art, it's children, this is meant to be a friendlier face that will either a) bring kids in and keep them in, or b) seed long term prospects where a kid will at least be familiar with names, etc going in. 40k has always been YA. Dystopian novels and movies aimed at that age range are a dime a dozen, and 40k is a mile wide and an inch deep.
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Looked forward to getting the Pariah audio book after finishing Ravenor Rogue, and now I find out it doesn't exist. I bought Magos, but from what Ive heard I should read Pariah first. Hell, even Magos has an audio book already. Why doesnt Pariah? Guess I have to pony up and get a used copy.
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mythicknight posted:Looked forward to getting the Pariah audio book after finishing Ravenor Rogue, and now I find out it doesn't exist. I bought Magos, but from what Ive heard I should read Pariah first. Hell, even Magos has an audio book already. Why doesnt Pariah? For sure read pariah first magos while good gives up waaaaay too much of the game to be read before hand.
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Cythereal posted:40k has always been YA. Dystopian novels and movies aimed at that age range are a dime a dozen, and 40k is a mile wide and an inch deep. Oh, I'm not disagreeing at all, I just think this new line is going to be straight up for kids. Like separate section in Barnes and Nobel and all the trappings.
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Zasze posted:For sure read pariah first magos while good gives up waaaaay too much of the game to be read before hand. I harp on this all the time, but it sure would be sweet if they reprinted Pariah. Oh well, it’s not like I’m starved for BL stuff to read.
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mythicknight posted:Hell, even Magos has an audio book already. Why doesnt Pariah?
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Guy Goodbody posted:People talk about Animorphs being grimdark, but loving Shade's Children was a successful YA novel. Warhammer is gonna be fine. This was banned by a school near me! Possibly because of the explicit sex scene and the girl cutting her wrists to get the tracking bug out. I was NOT expecting that from Garth Nix after reading the Seventh Tower series.
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mythicknight posted:Needed something to listen to on a long drive and decided to try my first audio book with Ravenor Rogue. drat, that was a good choice. Still not finished it yet but I'm really enjoying this way of rewding so far. Only bad part is I cant really flip back through pages to find some detail or reference easily. I've also been going back via audiobook to the Ravenor trilogy myself, goddamn those are good books. They (and Eisenhorn) are so much better than your average BL bolter porn it's not even funny. They feel like an actual sci-fi universe. It's a shame they've more or less dropped some of the cooler psyker elements in recent years. I love the stuff with the blanks having limiters and their being artificial thoughtscreens etc, and the way his psykers astral project to fight and take on battle forms. It's all way more interesting than generic Librarian is glorified flame thrower.
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Kurzon posted:I thought it kinda weird that you could go from soulless to having a soul then back at the flip of a button. Oh, they're still soulless scum,. but thanks to the bounty of the Omnissiah, their harmful effects can be mitigated.
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I liked that its canon that you can become immune from daemonic possession if you get possessed and exorcised enough times. They made a space marine chapter this way.
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The only thing that pisses me off about the YA books is that the AdMechs probably wouldn't give a growing child a bionic arm. Other than that, the series looks  as fuuuuuuck.
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mllaneza posted:Oh, they're still soulless scum,. but thanks to the bounty of the Omnissiah, their harmful effects can be mitigated.
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