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Giant Isopod
Jan 30, 2010

Bathynomus giganteus
Yams Fan

Garfield has gotten weird

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Kaza42
Oct 3, 2013

Blood and Souls and all that

I mean, yeah kinda. Having children present does change the tone of what you are doing, and it is good that there exist no-children-allowed activities or areas. But A) declaring an entire hobby off limits to children is dumb and B) "ya ever gently caress lasanga"? Seriously? That's your idea of fun that you can't have without children present? gently caress off

MasterSlowPoke
Oct 9, 2005

Our courage will pull us through

Giant Isopod posted:

Garfield has gotten weird

https://twitter.com/Garfield/status/994584016899723264

Moola
Aug 16, 2006

Kaza42 posted:

I mean, yeah kinda. Having children present does change the tone of what you are doing, and it is good that there exist no-children-allowed activities or areas. But A) declaring an entire hobby off limits to children is dumb and B) "ya ever gently caress lasanga"? Seriously? That's your idea of fun that you can't have without children present? gently caress off

please dont kink shame lasagna is very sexy

For_Great_Justice
Apr 21, 2010

JUST CAN'T SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT HOW MUCH I HATE GAMES WORKSHOP!
My favorite thing has been the comments of "the little girl on the cover has a loving hijab!"

A. Who cares.
B. No really who cares.
C. God forbid a non white being exist in your prescious 40k universe an wear clothing on their head.
D. Wonder if their heads would explode if they knew what the Tallarn legion of Imperial Guard was.

muggins
Mar 3, 2008

I regard the death and mangling of a couple thousand toy soldiers as a small affair, a kind of morning dash
https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer/comments/8lif79/lore_friendly_zelia

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




For_Great_Justice posted:

My favorite thing has been the comments of "the little girl on the cover has a loving hijab!"

A. Who cares.
B. No really who cares.
C. God forbid a non white being exist in your prescious 40k universe an wear clothing on their head.
D. Wonder if their heads would explode if they knew what the Tallarn legion of Imperial Guard was.

Not really it's the Mujahadeen that fought the commies, not the bad ones. Also Lawrence's Good Colonial Boys who were fighting for the good empire.

Slimnoid
Sep 6, 2012

Does that mean I don't get the job?

Thanks! I hate this.

Ugleb
Nov 19, 2014

ASK ME ABOUT HOW SCOTLAND'S PROPOSED TRANS LEGISLATION IS DIVISIVE AS HELL BECAUSE IT IS SO SWEEPING THAT IT COULD BE POTENTIALLY ABUSED AT A TIME WHERE THE LACK OF SAFETY FOR WOMEN HAS BEEN SO GLARING

Reminds me of a tournament I went to (where I knew absolutely nobody) and my opponent was a total stranger who apparently thinks the word 'oval office' is punctuation. I don't really get offended by swearing (I probably swear too much myself) but it was to the point of being weird.

I try to moderate myself a bit when I go to events so that I don't accidentally upset anyone (at least until I get to know people a bit), but I feel this would be a good rule of thumb for anyone really. If you want to verbally abuse your mates, maybe do it at home?

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012


Wouldn't the "lore-friendly" version of this already have been set on fire?

Floppychop
Mar 30, 2012

Kaza42 posted:

I mean, yeah kinda. Having children present does change the tone of what you are doing, and it is good that there exist no-children-allowed activities or areas. But A) declaring an entire hobby off limits to children is dumb and B) "ya ever gently caress lasanga"? Seriously? That's your idea of fun that you can't have without children present? gently caress off

I only have a handful of anecdotes dealing with children.

One is a guy's 12 year old he brings along on game day. The kid is wild. Doesn't actually play games and just runs around screaming. More than a few models have fallen off the table and broken.

Another is a friend's 9 year old. The kid paints and plays, and is fairly well behaved. He's prone to forgetting rules and bouts of immaturity, but, ya know, he's 9. I don't dread gaming when he shows up.

Basically what I'm saying some kids are fine to game with and some aren't. But IMO it's more on the parenting.

Giant Isopod
Jan 30, 2010

Bathynomus giganteus
Yams Fan
Everything bad that has been presented as an example of gaming with children in this thread and probably on reddit too can be matched with an anecdote of a full-grown adult doing the same poo poo, unfortunately.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Gotta expose them to lead early

Nebalebadingdong
Jun 30, 2005

i made a video game.
why not give it a try!?

killallnerds.exe

Foolster41
Aug 2, 2013

"It's a non-speaking role"

Kaza42 posted:

I mean, yeah kinda. Having children present does change the tone of what you are doing, and it is good that there exist no-children-allowed activities or areas. But A) declaring an entire hobby off limits to children is dumb and B) "ya ever gently caress lasanga"? Seriously? That's your idea of fun that you can't have without children present? gently caress off

I'm guessing from the over the top tone that Steel Mentor was being facetious. At least, I hope so.

On the one hand, the basic idea of having kid friendly way of entry into the hobby is good - except this is GW, and is extremely over priced, from I've heard has a pretty toxic fan base and has some pretty adult/gross stuff in the game. If this was almost any other company, I'd think this was great. (Though, having a on-cover main character in a hijab is a good sign, I'll grant.)

Maybe if there was like a kids version of the game, or something like heroclix where you'd have to really go digging into the comics themselves to find the weird stuff about certain comic book characters, but this it just feels weird, since my impression the stuff mentioned is in the game's lore itself.

Like saturday morning cartoons or toys for Robocop or Alien weird.

Though, I'll grant, maybe I'm misunderstanding and it's only in the novelizations, and it is more like heroclix's relationship to the comics.

Nebalebadingdong
Jun 30, 2005

i made a video game.
why not give it a try!?

Foolster41 posted:

I'm guessing from the over the top tone that Steel Mentor was being facetious. At least, I hope so.

On the one hand, the basic idea of having kid friendly way of entry into the hobby is good - except this is GW, and is extremely over priced, from I've heard has a pretty toxic fan base and has some pretty adult/gross stuff in the game. If this was almost any other company, I'd think this was great. (Though, having a on-cover main character in a hijab is a good sign, I'll grant.)

Maybe if there was like a kids version of the game, or something like heroclix where you'd have to really go digging into the comics themselves to find the weird stuff about certain comic book characters, but this it just feels weird, since my impression the stuff mentioned is in the game's lore itself.

Like saturday morning cartoons or toys for Robocop or Alien weird.

Though, I'll grant, maybe I'm misunderstanding and it's only in the novelizations, and it is more like heroclix's relationship to the comics.

the lore changes on a whim and isn't important anyway. the only way get rid of toxic fans is to replace them with new fans

Herr Tog
Jun 18, 2011

Grimey Drawer

Moola posted:

ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy














MAAZING KAAAIZAAA

AndyElusive
Jan 7, 2007

It's too bad all these wargamers who hate this idea of YA stories invading their forged narratives can't appreciate the potential of starting characters as children in a lighter toned 40k universe only to slowly evolve them and their surroundings naturally as they have more adventures and grow up to face the grim dark reality of a galaxy filled with only war and the laughter of thirsting gods.

smug jeebus
Oct 26, 2008
Honestly I find the constant nihilism of the 40k universe kind of eye-rolling and wouldn't mind seeing it cranked back a bit anyway.

Zeppelin Insanity
Oct 28, 2009

Wahnsinn
Einfach
Wahnsinn
I find it particularly amusing that all those people probably entered Warhammer as kids. I was 13 when I first became interested in Warhammer. When I was 13 I thought the setting was the raddest poo poo. Because it's full of what edgy 13 year olds love. lol if you get into Warhams fluff as an adult and obsess over it.

The website says it's for ages 8-12. 12 does not feel very far from 13 to me. 8 is rather young for the grimdark, but that's why it's more light hearted. Someone who gets in in that age bracket is totally going to enjoy learning all the edgy fluff afterwards.

Moola
Aug 16, 2006
I hope GW makes a Steven Universe style cartoon about 40k and all the toxic nerds spontaneously combust

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
They'd have tattoos of the main characters within a week and be posting porn of the main characters within hours.

Philthy
Jan 28, 2003

Pillbug


ro5s
Dec 27, 2012

A happy little mouse!


Hello, sailor! :captainpop:

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


goatface posted:

They'd have tattoos of the main characters within a week and be posting porn of the main characters within hours.

I'm not going to attempt it but you know there's already porn of these kid friendly ones. Nerds are the worst.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Len posted:

Nerds are the worst.

I am a nerd, but I'm most certainly not the worst nerd.

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

ro5s posted:

Hello, sailor! :captainpop:

I thought exactly this

Screaming Idiot
Nov 26, 2007

JUST POSTING WHILE JERKIN' MY GHERKIN SITTIN' IN A PERKINS!

BEATS SELLING MERKINS.

goatface posted:

They'd have tattoos of the main characters within a week and be posting porn of the main characters within hours.

That's precisely why GW's attempt at kid-friendly stuff saddens and frightens me. :smith:

Fashionable Jorts
Jan 18, 2010

Maybe if I'm busy it could keep me from you



Iron Crowned posted:

I am a nerd, but I'm most certainly not the worst nerd.

One thing that keeps me sane is reading stories of the worst nerds and thinking about how I'm a relatively normal and well-adjusted human being.

Groetgaffel
Oct 30, 2011

Groetgaffel smacked the living shit out of himself doing 297 points of damage.

Fashionable Jorts posted:

One thing that keeps me sane is reading stories of the worst nerds and thinking about how I'm a relatively normal and well-adjusted human being.
:same:

DicktheCat
Feb 15, 2011

I said this in the other thread, where I first saw it, but I'm planning on buying some of these little books precisely because they piss off redditors so much. I'm going to give GW money for the first time in my life because they're pissing off the right people. For books I'll probably never read.

Floppychop
Mar 30, 2012

DicktheCat posted:

I said this in the other thread, where I first saw it, but I'm planning on buying some of these little books precisely because they piss off redditors so much. I'm going to give GW money for the first time in my life because they're pissing off the right people. For books I'll probably never read.

If they really are kid friendly and not absolute garbage donate them to a family with kids or a library.

Mercedes Colomar
Nov 1, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Definitely do the library donation. They'll love you and it's tax deductible.

bulletsponge13
Apr 28, 2010

I told my wife about the nerds losing their poo poo over Kid's First Book of Grimdark.

"That's the game with the rape priest aliens and power armor that you Josh play?"
"How is that kid friendly?"
"Dunno"
"And they are mad at build they haven't read?! loving nerds."

I actually want to get them and read them. We wouldn't need to indoctrinate kids to our hobby if less of the players weren't toxic pieces of poo poo.
And who the gently caress gets mad at trying to get kids to read, and play a cool loving game? I was amped when last summer, right before going back to school, my son randomly wanted to build models and try a game.

Not a viking
Aug 2, 2008

Feels like I just got laid

bulletsponge13 posted:

...

And who the gently caress gets mad at trying to get kids to read, and play a cool loving game? I was amped when last summer, right before going back to school, my son randomly wanted to build models and try a game.

The difference here is that the people who are mad at this have have never and will ever procreate, so they won't have the chance to play hams with their kids

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all
It's almost like everyone forgot that this is a widely shared and beloved piece of fanart:


This doesn't need to be set after the fall of the Imperium or death of Chaos or whatever. It could just be a world where some Space Mans came down and saved the population and a century later some kids play in the ruins. No one seemed to have a problem with this picture. But you tell one of those kids that they're psychic and need to go on an adventure to save the planet from space robots and everyone loses their goddamn mind.

berzerkmonkey
Jul 23, 2003

Manuel Calavera posted:

Definitely do the library donation. They'll love you and it's tax deductible.

Check the library first - a lot of them don't have the room, especially for paperbacks, and wind up throwing literal tons of books away.

Philthy
Jan 28, 2003

Pillbug

bulletsponge13 posted:

"That's the game with the rape priest aliens and power armor that you Josh play?"
"How is that kid friendly?"
"Dunno"
"And they are mad at build they haven't read?! loving nerds."

Want go dinner to night.

Maybe

Chill la Chill
Jul 2, 2007

Don't lose your gay


Atlas Hugged posted:

It's almost like everyone forgot that this is a widely shared and beloved piece of fanart:


This doesn't need to be set after the fall of the Imperium or death of Chaos or whatever. It could just be a world where some Space Mans came down and saved the population and a century later some kids play in the ruins. No one seemed to have a problem with this picture. But you tell one of those kids that they're psychic and need to go on an adventure to save the planet from space robots and everyone loses their goddamn mind.

This is still the best piece of 40k fanart and is why say 40k is really a chill place and what players read is from a very minor set of worlds that are publicized to the rest of the galaxy via propaganda.

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AndyElusive
Jan 7, 2007

Philthy posted:

Want go dinner to night.

Maybe

Met you and this crazy

Here a number

Call me a build maybe

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