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wedgekree posted:So,how many planes do you have left with your carriers? 15-20 per I think. Not great, but I need to take them offline for a bit to repair the wear and tear damage.
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the VT fuze and the B-29 were great examples of Secret Weapon projects that paid off and were hugely successful, as compared to something like the Maus, the V weapons and the Me-262, or of course the atomic bomb as the more obvious and popular answer
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24 May 1944 Japanese escort Iki torpedoed in the South China Sea by USS Raton. In the Channel, German torpedo-boat Greif crippled by RAF air attack and scuttled off Ouistreham in Normandy and minesweeper M-39 torpedoed by British MTBs off Dunkirk.
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Do carriers have to dock and restock planes or can reinforcements land on them in the open ocean?
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Flavius Belisarius posted:Do carriers have to dock and restock planes or can reinforcements land on them in the open ocean? It's kind of both ways in the game. You can fly additional carrier-capable squadrons at any time out to the carriers if they're in transfer range. However, to replenish squadron losses from the pool I'm pretty sure you need to be docked, because pool aircraft are considered "unassembled" whenever you pull them and take a few days to put together. However, the US start getting special "VRF" replenishment groups (non-historical formations) that start out being carried on escort carriers. These will automatically fly reinforcements out to American carriers in range. They can also be used to train up carrier pilots as an abstraction of carrier operations training, since you don't get any land-based USN squadrons that fly carrier types. The Japanese don't get these groups, so aside from shenanigans involving juggling squadrons around, you need to dock to keep squadrons replenished.
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They did (at least the US did) over the war. Whether the IJN can is questionable. Also I suppose he needs a ton of pilots too.
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Acebuckeye13 posted:I've got some time so gently caress it: Thanks for posting, much appreciated!
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So basically AA guns are to American warships as quills to a porcupine.
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By the end of the war some of them were quite absurd.
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Looking at those battleships I almost swear they were built by the Orks 
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gradenko_2000 posted:the VT fuze and the B-29 were great examples of Secret Weapon projects that paid off and were hugely successful, as compared to something like the Maus, the V weapons and the Me-262, or of course the atomic bomb as the more obvious and popular answer The Me-262 shouldn't be included in this.
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Jobbo_Fett posted:The Me-262 shouldn't be included in this. I was of two minds as to whether I should have included it, so fair enough, but would that be because it wasn't a "secret project", or that it was relatively successful for what it was, or that it wasn't that big an investment?
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Another lurking question: Is the US firebombing of Japanese cities implemented in the game? I’ve understood the nukes are in so...
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Time to get the KB back home and spend like 3-6 months training pilots.
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Cardiac posted:Another lurking question: Yes. I don't know if it's called firebombing per se, but the bombers can target manpower and kill people by the thousands.
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goatface posted:By the end of the war some of them were quite absurd. It's real fun to compare California to the Iowas: 5" Guns: California 16, Iowa 20 40mm: California 56, Iowa 80 20mm: California 31, Iowa 49 And when you factor in the Iowas had far more sophisticated radar and fire control, you can get a sense of just how powerful those ships were.
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Cardiac posted:Another lurking question: Yes, they are. If you use Strategic Bombing missions against cities, and you have large raids/heavy bombloads, you can trigger Firestorms, which will completely destroy industry and manpower points, as opposed to merely damaging them (which can be repaired). This also yields more points. As far as I know, it's also the case that this isn't a mechanic that's limited to the Allies, or to B-29s. Any raid can result in Firestorms if enough bombers/bombs are involved, though it's very difficult to pull it off as the Japanese, since you'd have to go ahistorical to get a bomber with a sizable load.
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There are firestorms and multiday fires consuming cities. I remember Grey doing quite a bit of bombing in the Allies run. I've checked the LP and on this day he was already sending Liberators to bomb Hokkaido.
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gradenko_2000 posted:Yes, they are. If you use Strategic Bombing missions against cities, and you have large raids/heavy bombloads, you can trigger Firestorms, which will completely destroy industry and manpower points, as opposed to merely damaging them (which can be repaired). This also yields more points. Something I've seen on the Matrix forums is people mass producing H8K patrol boats when PDU is on since it's a decent 4E bomber in a pinch.
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gradenko_2000 posted:I was of two minds as to whether I should have included it, so fair enough, but would that be because it wasn't a "secret project", or that it was relatively successful for what it was, or that it wasn't that big an investment? Saying it "didn't pay off in the end" excludes just about every late war development of Axis forces. They can't pay themselves off 'cause they lost; You could argue that the Me-262 has some downsides, sure, but how you quantify those failings within the limitations of the design, technology, and production quality/capacity at the time should be examined and weighed against each other, or individually. For example, is it an issue with the design of the Panther tank if the rubber lines were so poorly made, causing them to leak oil and fuel and catch fire, or is that an issue with the production capability available to Germany at the time of the issue?
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Panther had other issues than material quality: it was a rushed design that had a serious feature creep. They've added weight that ended up screwing up the transmission to a point they were useless in any protracted advances. Panther A "Medium Tank" was just slightly lighter than IS-2.
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Jobbo_Fett posted:Saying it "didn't pay off in the end" excludes just about every late war development of Axis forces. They can't pay themselves off 'cause they lost; You could argue that the Me-262 has some downsides, sure, but how you quantify those failings within the limitations of the design, technology, and production quality/capacity at the time should be examined and weighed against each other, or individually. Soviets could build T-34s in a beseiged city while the factory was being actively bombed. Volgograd Tractor Plant is such a cool story...
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The T-34 is great and all but that story also features a facility with all the materials necessary to build it in the first place. And the T-34 had its own setbacks at the start of its production run. Still metal as gently caress to roll out tanks at the frontline tho
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Jobbo_Fett posted:The T-34 is great and all but that story also features a facility with all the materials necessary to build it in the first place. And the T-34 had its own setbacks at the start of its production run. And it was designed that way because the Soviets had the forethought to hire the best industrial architects in the world to design a facility that best suited the infrastructural realities of the Soviet Union and could easily be converted into war production. Maybe if Hitler had been like Stalin and taken lessons from Detroit their factories wouldn't have been such garbage 
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Jobbo_Fett posted:The T-34 is great and all but that story also features a facility with all the materials necessary to build it in the first place. And the T-34 had its own setbacks at the start of its production run. Those Russian workers were some of the bravest bastards to ever have lived.
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Acebuckeye13 posted:And it was designed that way because the Soviets had the forethought to hire the best industrial architects in the world to design a facility that best suited the infrastructural realities of the Soviet Union and could easily be converted into war production. Maybe if Hitler had been like Stalin and taken lessons from Detroit their factories wouldn't have been such garbage And like the Panther, the T-34 had a lovely transmission. Luckily for the Soviets, they had a lot of ground to give and time to rectify the issues.
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Jobbo_Fett posted:And like the Panther, the T-34 had a lovely transmission. Luckily for the Soviets, they had a lot of ground to give and time to rectify the issues. More than that, the T-34 was a tank designed around mass production, and the Soviets were ruthless about cost-cutting. Each individual tank didn't have to be a world-beater, they just had to be good enough-and even the earlier ones were let down more by logistical failures and poorly trained crews than they were by design flaws. The Panther, by contrast, was just far too expensive of a tank to have the design flaws that it did.
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Zeroisanumber posted:Those Russian workers were some of the bravest bastards to ever have lived. "Eh, it's better than the gulags."
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Remembered this thread existed and finally finished reading it from the beginning. Have to say, no offense Grey Hunter, this campaign's been a lot more boring than the Allied one. After that one big carrier battle early on the game's been an almost nonstop routine of losing planes while sinking everything the retarded AI flings west and occasional bitching about subs. There was that second carrier battle that everyone oohed and aaahed over that was forgotten about within two days, and except for the air it's continued to be a one-sided slaughter.
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That's kinda just how Japan works, it's a totally different game. You don't go on the offensive any time after 1942, you just try to make your inevitable loss hurt the Americans more than it did in OTL. There's very little agency like on the Allied side, you mostly just kinda turtle up and wait to see what the AI does and play defense for 4 years. Which yeah might be kinda boring to watch, but I enjoy it.
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Acebuckeye13 posted:More than that, the T-34 was a tank designed around mass production, and the Soviets were ruthless about cost-cutting. Each individual tank didn't have to be a world-beater, they just had to be good enough-and even the earlier ones were let down more by logistical failures and poorly trained crews than they were by design flaws. The Panther, by contrast, was just far too expensive of a tank to have the design flaws that it did. Not just that, the Soviets understood they were fighting an apocalyptic war of mass destruction, did the math, and realized each tank was likely to end up dead within six months of being built and (I think) 14 hours of entering combat. So they decided there was no point making operational parts that would last longer than six months or combat parts that would last longer than 14 hours, because investing in that kind of quality was just wasted time and money when fancy parts would just end up blown up inside a burning tank on the battlefield. Incidentally anyone who hasn't seen the Jonathan Parshall video on this subject really should: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6xLMUifbxQ&t=1580s
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Acebuckeye13 posted:Each individual tank didn't have to be a world-beater, they just had to be good enough-and even the earlier ones were let down more by logistical failures and poorly trained crews than they were by design flaws. With some exemptions. Like, IIRC you had British, American and German engineers looking at the dust filters used in early T-34 models, and they all independently reached the same conclusion: That whoever designed those and okay'd their mass production had to have done so as an outright, deliberate act of malicious sabotage.
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That appears to have been a "did not read the manual" issue - when properly oiled the early air filter did a perfectly adequate job.
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Crazycryodude posted:That's kinda just how Japan works, it's a totally different game. You don't go on the offensive any time after 1942, you just try to make your inevitable loss hurt the Americans more than it did in OTL. There's very little agency like on the Allied side, you mostly just kinda turtle up and wait to see what the AI does and play defense for 4 years. Which yeah might be kinda boring to watch, but I enjoy it. To be honest, I skimmed most updates unless there were real Japanese losses. Day after day of "Japanese planes hit American convoy heading in hostile territory heading for doomed invasion target, killing hundreds and sinking half a dozen ships" gets very tedious.
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Yeah I've been keeping up every day so it's like 5 minutes tops, just checking in to see how many divisions of Marines we drowned today. Reading it all in one go would probably be pretty tedious.
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I'm here for Chungking
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   Things continue to go, poorly for the invaders at Truk.  If I reported all of these, the day would be ten times longer.  I've just unloaded a fresh division of my own troops as well....  I estimate nearly 2,000 dead troops again today, the beaches run red.  The Battleships are still hanging around.  Strike!  We pay for this hit.  Stupid effective CAPs.  Oh god, here we go again!   Not a bad showing in Burma.   Poor buggers.   It's murder out there, there is no other word for it. Another 150 points of allied troops are lost and we gain a massive 487 points in one day! At this rate I won't even need Operation Charnel house!  I think we're sinking much more than this, but we are only seeing a few added on a day. We just can't confirm the kills.
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McNally posted:CVL Cabot? Did I miss something? Where'd she come from? Boston, presumably. Probably fleeing CA Lowell's annoying chatter.
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