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Cynic Jester
Apr 11, 2009

Let's put a simile on that face
A dazzling simile
Twinkling like the night sky

gimme the GOD drat candy posted:

i don't really understand translating erotic fiction. like, there's plenty in your native language already, no matter what that language may be. heck, as google just confirmed this includes esperanto.

But it wouldn't be made by the glorious nihonjin senseis of Japan, who have perfected the art of incredibly hosed up poo poo.

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The Sandman
Jun 23, 2013

Okay!

So, I've, like, designed a really sweet attack plan that I'm calling Attack Plan Ded Moroz, like "Deadmau5!"

WUB!
More so than the Germans?

Annointed
Mar 2, 2013

The Sandman posted:

More so than the Germans?

Is German porn that depraved?

Cynic Jester
Apr 11, 2009

Let's put a simile on that face
A dazzling simile
Twinkling like the night sky

Annointed posted:

Is German porn that depraved?

Helga, ich komme.

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006

khy posted:

Is this like, a parody or something?

https://www.novelupdates.com/series...female-toilets/

I checked out the first chapter out of morbid curiosity and, yeah, it's sssssssssso bad.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
i remain incredibly grateful for novelupdates filters

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

quote:

InternetHitler rated it
Other reviews by this user
September 20, 2017
Status: c3

Amidst among the Ero novels and even by their standards this is bottom tier.

Everything is an excuse for the Main character to have s*x and you might say "But InternetHitler, isn't that how R-18 novels are supposed to be?" and you're right but decent to good ero novels at the very least competent at disguising that fact. Motivations, characterizations, setting, etc is at the very least to be decent and not outrageous enough even by the logic the novel had set that it'll break your suspension of disbelief. Believe it or not R-18 novels can be capable of being good.

Let me describe why this novel is just that. As soon as he meet the Goddess, he is automatically a perverted Badass who somehow fully understood he has Hypnotism and proceeds to defile said Goddess. Gets reincarnated literally not even a week old baby he decided to have the Goddess grant him the power to copulate despite his Reincarnated body's age. As soon he got reincarnated (not joking) Hypnotizes every potential decent character (Mother, sisters, etc) he sees without giving them a chance to establish their character and have them jack this baby<Yes you read that right.

Thanks for the review InternetHitler.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007

Synthbuttrange posted:

Thanks for the review InternetHitler.

unironically same, if only for the jack this baby line

Silynt
Sep 21, 2009
I've commented on Will Wight's Cradle series in this thread in the past, and a number of people have read them and mostly enjoyed them. Cradle is a series of short (90,000ish words) novels that are based on Chinese xianxia concepts but are written with a Western audience in mind, digitally self published through Amazon. I've read a number of Amazon self published authors, and Will is EASILY the best of the bunch that I've read, across all his works and not just the Cradle series.

A week ago, Will announced on his blog that the 5th book in the series, Ghostwater, is getting surprise released on June 1st - surprise because his fans thought he was writing a book in a different series and weren't expecting this book until 2019. Today, Will announced that book 1 in the series, Unsouled, will be available for free download on Amazon until Friday. I encourage anyone who likes Chinese xianxia stories to give these ones a shot. If you like book 1, the rest only cost $5 or are free if you're a kindle unlimited member.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

wacky races finally started in cultivation chat group

if anyone is having trouble visualizing the tractors

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IHLVd3iEIA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCtW5Sda_Ig&t=82s

Tunicate fucked around with this message at 08:04 on May 24, 2018

jwang
Mar 31, 2013
Time to crank up the Eurobeat tracks while reading these chapters. DEJA VU!

Its Rinaldo
Aug 13, 2010

CODS BINCH
Every time I read large chunks of th Forge of Destiny thread I want to shove everyone in a locker and yell. NEERRRRRRRDDDDSSSSS

Jesus stop clutching your spreadsheets and shut the gently caress up about your vastly superior plan that is at best a1% increase

Its Rinaldo fucked around with this message at 21:30 on May 25, 2018

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

Its Rinaldo posted:

Every time I read large chunks of th Forge of Destiny thread I want to shove everyone in a locker and yell. NEERRRRRRRDDDDSSSSS

Jesus stop clutching your spreadsheets and shut the gently caress up about your vastly superior plan that is at best a1% increase

I can't comprehend people being engaged in any choices other than the narrative and significant arts-related ones (like "do you want to learn art X or art Y"). I'm happy that other people deal with the tedium of choosing what to cultivate and buying items (though I think he changed something about items recently to simplify things), but I can't imagine enjoying that sort of thing myself. I generally just use Reader Mode unless something really big just happened and I want to read reactions.

I was kind of surprised at the readers choosing for Ling Qi to agree with Cai a while back. It seemed like the obvious logical choice was the alternative, though I guess many people balked at making things awkward with a few of the major supporting characters. I was personally always hoping for the unlikely dark horse option of her hooking up with Xiulan's cousin, since he seemed like a cool, likable guy and I find the whole situation with Han Jian's group interesting.

Regardless of what else happens in the future, Ling Qi definitely needs to stop living in the same house with Meizhen next year. That's gotta be a completely impossible environment to ever get past your crush in (for Meizhen that is).

Kaja Rainbow
Oct 17, 2012

~Adorable horror~
It's going to be nice when the next thread starts up with a more narrative system.

Alectai
Dec 31, 2008

It doesn't matter how long I live, I will never have a hat as dashing as this.

Ytlaya posted:

I can't comprehend people being engaged in any choices other than the narrative and significant arts-related ones (like "do you want to learn art X or art Y"). I'm happy that other people deal with the tedium of choosing what to cultivate and buying items (though I think he changed something about items recently to simplify things), but I can't imagine enjoying that sort of thing myself. I generally just use Reader Mode unless something really big just happened and I want to read reactions.

I was kind of surprised at the readers choosing for Ling Qi to agree with Cai a while back. It seemed like the obvious logical choice was the alternative, though I guess many people balked at making things awkward with a few of the major supporting characters. I was personally always hoping for the unlikely dark horse option of her hooking up with Xiulan's cousin, since he seemed like a cool, likable guy and I find the whole situation with Han Jian's group interesting.

Regardless of what else happens in the future, Ling Qi definitely needs to stop living in the same house with Meizhen next year. That's gotta be a completely impossible environment to ever get past your crush in (for Meizhen that is).

Oh god, don't even get me started on the fights over that mess. There was so much exaggeration going on with literally all sides involved in that debate.

It boiled down to more or less "We could keep doing what we're doing and spend our time in magical university, get tenure, and maybe become one of the teachers down the line, or we can try to do something to have an impact on the setting at large after getting our undergraduate by getting involved with a promising rising power." A solid majority decided that the latter would tell a more interesting story, even if it might not be the happiest choice.

Gu Tai's homesteading offer though was pretty much everyone's second choice, it just had to compete against "Heavily implied Sect Elder Apprenticeship" and "Become the left-hand of a future Ducal Title Holder".

But yeah, the spreadsheet nonsense is something handled by a small portion of the playerbase, and it's a sign on how the numbers and the base system picked doesn't really scale very well--that's why they're going more narrative after the Outer Sect Tournament.

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

I'm honestly curious how in the gently caress this story is ever supposed to end, or even get remotely far into Ling Qi's cultivation. Like, at some point we're going to need multi-year time skips or something, since it seems to be the case that this sort of week to week progress just isn't a thing beyond green/bronze (even green/bronze seems long enough that it's doubtful Ling Qi will pass it in the next year or so, from what I understand). I guess to some degree you can just increase the vote periods from weeks to months to years, but the journey ahead is so long that it seems very unlikely to ever reach the point where Ling Qi is actually in the upper echelons of the empire.

edit: The reason I assumed rejecting Cai was the more obvious option is that, from a cultivating perspective, it seems pretty clear that apprenticeship to moon Elder guy (Jiao? forget his name) was the best option. Not only is he a powerful Elder, but he's directly connected to the Great Spirit that Ling Qi has a very strong connection to. Also, while being with Cai has more potential for political influence, it's political influence in a preset direction/alignment that doesn't seem to fit much with Ling Qi's character/personality up until this point. Cai has the potential to be an interesting character, though (and the guy who writes this has impressed me enough with some of the other characters that I doubt I'll be disappointed).

Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 04:35 on May 26, 2018

TheDemon
Dec 11, 2006

...on the plus side I'm feeling much more angry now than I expected so this totally helps me get in character.

Ytlaya posted:

edit: The reason I assumed rejecting Cai was the more obvious option is that, from a cultivating perspective, it seems pretty clear that apprenticeship to moon Elder guy (Jiao? forget his name) was the best option. Not only is he a powerful Elder, but he's directly connected to the Great Spirit that Ling Qi has a very strong connection to. Also, while being with Cai has more potential for political influence, it's political influence in a preset direction/alignment that doesn't seem to fit much with Ling Qi's character/personality up until this point. Cai has the potential to be an interesting character, though (and the guy who writes this has impressed me enough with some of the other characters that I doubt I'll be disappointed).

Yeah, those were literally some of the arguments that sect side (of which I was a part) used. Just didn't convince enough people vs chasing the Cai ambition. I'm probably still bitter over that.

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

I hope that once Cai steps out of her mother's shadow she discovers her punk soul and shaves her hair into a mohawk.

Argue
Sep 29, 2005

I represent the Philippines
It got pretty hard to read towards the end (particularly, all the side stories dealing with the aftermath), but I finally finished reading arc 2 of Honzuki! :cry::cry::cry: Just in time too; there's enough arc 3 manga chapters currently out to accompany my reading for maybe 6 chapters at least, so I won't get too lost reading descriptions at the start. I'm excited now that I'm entering what I hear is more GoT-esque territory where the cast balloons up exponentially and Maine starts getting embroiled in politics. I just hope the increased focus on politics doesn't mean increased difficulty in reading for me though :saddowns:

Alectai
Dec 31, 2008

It doesn't matter how long I live, I will never have a hat as dashing as this.

Ytlaya posted:

I'm honestly curious how in the gently caress this story is ever supposed to end, or even get remotely far into Ling Qi's cultivation. Like, at some point we're going to need multi-year time skips or something, since it seems to be the case that this sort of week to week progress just isn't a thing beyond green/bronze (even green/bronze seems long enough that it's doubtful Ling Qi will pass it in the next year or so, from what I understand). I guess to some degree you can just increase the vote periods from weeks to months to years, but the journey ahead is so long that it seems very unlikely to ever reach the point where Ling Qi is actually in the upper echelons of the empire.

edit: The reason I assumed rejecting Cai was the more obvious option is that, from a cultivating perspective, it seems pretty clear that apprenticeship to moon Elder guy (Jiao? forget his name) was the best option. Not only is he a powerful Elder, but he's directly connected to the Great Spirit that Ling Qi has a very strong connection to. Also, while being with Cai has more potential for political influence, it's political influence in a preset direction/alignment that doesn't seem to fit much with Ling Qi's character/personality up until this point. Cai has the potential to be an interesting character, though (and the guy who writes this has impressed me enough with some of the other characters that I doubt I'll be disappointed).

The pace is going to accelerate after the reworking evidently. It's part of why the game system is going to be simplified.

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006
I've given a couple more popular web novels a go.

King's Avatar is the number one WN in the webnovel.com rankings. It's a, sigh, MMO esports novel. So, this guy, who's the best and most skilled and most admired MMO player ever gets screwed over by getting booted from his MMO PVP esports team, with his precious super-overleveled and overgeared character remaining with the team as their property, so he gets a job at an internet cafe, makes a new character at this MMO's conveniently just-launched brand new 10th anniversary megaserver and starts owning it through his combination of inhuman twitch skills (the fictional MMO in this game having a higher twitch skills ceiling than even real world competition-level fighting games), genius theorycrafting and a custom crafted OP weapon he saved up.

Now, tbh, there's nothing wrong with the concept of an esports novel. There are baseball novels and chess novels and poker novels, why not an MMO novel, yeah? I'm not a big MMO fan but I've enjoyed a few and I was okay with reading a story about playing one. My problem with this story is mainly how loving padded it is. If this was a tennis novel, the author would describe every single ball strike in every single match he plays in, including practice, with worshipful reactions of the multiple observers after every single move. Here, we get to read about every single dungeon he clears and every raid boss fight lasts multiple chapters and I think by the time I quit 90~ chapters into the story I think, like, less than a week went by in the story?

On the positive note, I guess, the protagonist is Buddhist-chill and is generally a helpful and pleasant person, the other characters are alright as well and the story so far didn't really have any of the typical webnovel cringe poo poo. I might give the chinime a look, if only to see if they've condensed it at all.

------------------------

The Strongest System is a rather formulaic xianxia novel. Transmigration into the typical world of daoist sects and cultivation, check. Hero gets a rpg-like system that makes him crazy OP, check. A shameless greedy cringelord protagonist, check. There is a lot of pervy cringe humor revolving around, for example, crotch trauma, non-consensual boob enlargement and superviagra pills and the protagonist, quite frankly, is a sociopath who only ends up not victimizing innocents through author fiat.

It has a lot of similarities to A Will Eternal, but it's written worse. That said, I am ashamed to admit I was still entertained enough by it to read the entirety of the chapters that I originally downloaded. At least, unlike King's Avatar, the plot moves fairly quickly and the humor is kinda entertaining in that 'watching East Asian comedy in mute fascination and horror' sort of way. I, sigh, might even finish reading this - but perhaps when it's fully translated.

Cynic Jester
Apr 11, 2009

Let's put a simile on that face
A dazzling simile
Twinkling like the night sky
King's Avatar is super chill, but it's not something I can binge read, because so much stuff is draaaaaaaaagged out super hard. I enjoy the humor in it most of the time and it really doesn't feel like a CN story.

Arkeus
Jul 21, 2013

Ytlaya posted:

I'm honestly curious how in the gently caress this story is ever supposed to end, or even get remotely far into Ling Qi's cultivation. Like, at some point we're going to need multi-year time skips or something, since it seems to be the case that this sort of week to week progress just isn't a thing beyond green/bronze (even green/bronze seems long enough that it's doubtful Ling Qi will pass it in the next year or so, from what I understand). I guess to some degree you can just increase the vote periods from weeks to months to years, but the journey ahead is so long that it seems very unlikely to ever reach the point where Ling Qi is actually in the upper echelons of the empire.

After the tournament there is going to be a new thread, and we'd be going with longer turns (maybe a month?), and then once we leave the sect completely even longer turn probably, and so on.

Bakanogami
Dec 31, 2004


Grimey Drawer

Argue posted:

It got pretty hard to read towards the end (particularly, all the side stories dealing with the aftermath), but I finally finished reading arc 2 of Honzuki! :cry::cry::cry: Just in time too; there's enough arc 3 manga chapters currently out to accompany my reading for maybe 6 chapters at least, so I won't get too lost reading descriptions at the start. I'm excited now that I'm entering what I hear is more GoT-esque territory where the cast balloons up exponentially and Maine starts getting embroiled in politics. I just hope the increased focus on politics doesn't mean increased difficulty in reading for me though :saddowns:

Yeah, end of part 2 is one of the biggest emotional points of the series, and where Honzuki went from merely being good to being one of my favorites.

The cast really does explode in part 3, with earlier characters taking a smaller role. If you can find a character relationship map/family tree thing without getting spoiled by fanart I'd recommend it. It might also be good to stay vaguely familiar with the gods/mythology stuff. I skimmed through it the first time, but they reference it all the time, including sometimes dropping stuff that Maine doesn't understand or interpret properly, leaving it to the audience to read between the lines.

I still found it pretty readable in raw form, but I'd hate to have to try to translate it. Everyone speaks in super formal Japanese except when they don't, and it's hard to communicate those subtleties in English.

Doctor w-rw-rw-
Jun 24, 2008

Cynic Jester posted:

King's Avatar is super chill, but it's not something I can binge read, because so much stuff is draaaaaaaaagged out super hard. I enjoy the humor in it most of the time and it really doesn't feel like a CN story.

It was animated, too. It moves slower than .hack//Sign. Hard pass.

blastron
Dec 11, 2007

Don't doodle on it!


Bakanogami posted:

I still found it pretty readable in raw form, but I'd hate to have to try to translate it. Everyone speaks in super formal Japanese except when they don't, and it's hard to communicate those subtleties in English.

gently caress

The Sandman
Jun 23, 2013

Okay!

So, I've, like, designed a really sweet attack plan that I'm calling Attack Plan Ded Moroz, like "Deadmau5!"

WUB!
Go with Britishisms and Received Pronunciation. That's the closest I can think of to super politeness speak relative to American English where it won't come off as horribly stilted or archaic.

Argue
Sep 29, 2005

I represent the Philippines

Bakanogami posted:

It might also be good to stay vaguely familiar with the gods/mythology stuff. I skimmed through it the first time, but they reference it all the time, including sometimes dropping stuff that Maine doesn't understand or interpret properly, leaving it to the audience to read between the lines.

:negative: I largely skimmed over it when it first appeared and was glad when blastron's translations finally got around to that long creation myth; please tell me I don't have to memorize their lesser pantheon of gods and that I only need to know those main ones (I have a hard enough time remembering which of those are which because they translate to possibly real, possibly fake Germanic names which I have just as hard a time remembering).

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

I tried reading the Honzuki raws a while back, but found that the effort involved just made it difficult for me to enjoy. I recently finished my first "consume a long piece of Japanese media" project in the form of playing Cold Steel 3, and I think what made it tolerable is that it alternated between reading and gameplay, so I was able to at least rest my brain periodically. I might give Honzuki a shot again sometime soon, since playing CS3 acquainted me with a poo poo-ton of more commonly used kanji (which is basically the #1 barrier to me reading Japanese, by a long shot).

blastron
Dec 11, 2007

Don't doodle on it!


The Sandman posted:

Go with Britishisms and Received Pronunciation. That's the closest I can think of to super politeness speak relative to American English where it won't come off as horribly stilted or archaic.

I’m currently doing an entire chapter from Mark’s POV, which is about as polite as anything I’ve ever had to translate. I’m really hoping it doesn’t come across as too stilted or unnecessarily verbose, because if I can’t nail this, then going even further is going to murder me.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

In this situation the traditional solution is just to have the uppercrust speak in perfect iambic pentameter

It can't be that hard to do, right?

Bakanogami
Dec 31, 2004


Grimey Drawer

Argue posted:

:negative: I largely skimmed over it when it first appeared and was glad when blastron's translations finally got around to that long creation myth; please tell me I don't have to memorize their lesser pantheon of gods and that I only need to know those main ones (I have a hard enough time remembering which of those are which because they translate to possibly real, possibly fake Germanic names which I have just as hard a time remembering).

You don't exactly have to have it all memorized, and definitely don't need to memorize the dozens of lesser gods, but it might not be a bad idea to keep a bookmark to the chapter with the creation myth or take some notes or something. Maine will basically interpret the myth stuff 90% of the time, especially in the beginning, and a lot of the details will get stuck in your head eventually. It's only in the later bits where you have running gags like (extremely minor spoiler but just in case)everyone using flowery language to talk about sex and only Maine not realizing it.

It's been a year or so since I last read Honzuki, but IIRC if there's anything in the myth worth remembering specifically it's the stuff involving Mestionora (メスティオノーラ) and Erwermen (エアヴェルミーン) That'll be on the test. Also maybe Gedulighi (ゲドゥルリーヒ) and Ewilebe (エーヴィリーベ) since they get referenced a lot.

There's a Japanese Wiki you can visit that has all the god stuff sorted, but I can't really recommend it since it does have some spoilers here and there.

As for the names, the wiki does have a page specifically for trying to figure out the roots/romanizations of every name in the series, with mixed results. You're correct that most names are either actual German names or random German words haphazardly mashed together.


EDIT:

So long as I'm at it, here's a copy of the family tree I used most as a reference during part 3. It's nice because it actually has some illustrations as visual aides and isn't just a wall of Japanese text like the more complete character relationship charts here and here.

Bakanogami fucked around with this message at 19:27 on May 27, 2018

Law Cheetah
Mar 3, 2012
do you guys have any recs for good stories with protags who are kind and good and helpful and these qualities are portrayed in general as a positive thing

somewhat like ze tian ji’s Chen Changsheng or cultivation chat group’s Song Shuhang

The Sandman
Jun 23, 2013

Okay!

So, I've, like, designed a really sweet attack plan that I'm calling Attack Plan Ded Moroz, like "Deadmau5!"

WUB!
Already recced Number None, so I'm fresh out of ideas.

...The Wandering Inn, maybe?

LibrarianCroaker
Mar 30, 2010
Common Sense of a Duke's Daughter fits I think. It's been a while since I read it, though.

e: I'm also obligated to shill Raptor Wife every time I post in this thread.

LibrarianCroaker fucked around with this message at 06:45 on May 28, 2018

Deadly Ham Sandwich
Aug 19, 2009
Smellrose

BadMedic posted:

I decided to calculate how much stuff costs at webnovel.com, and I'd like to start off by telling bullshit microtransaction currencies to gently caress off for forcing me to use a spreadsheet to calculate how much poo poo actually costs.

So, to start off:
  • webnovel.com uses spirit stones as their internet funbucks.
  • Depending on how many you buy at once, you get 50 to 65 stones per USD.
  • You get ~20 spirit stones per day for using the site.
  • Paywalled chapters costs 10 spirit stones on average.
  • Novels tend to release 2 chapters a day, or 12-14 chapters a week.*

Putting that all together, you basically get to read 1 novel for free, and have to pay for every novel after that. Assuming you buy spirit stones in the largest amounts possible, it costs at minimum $8 per novel per month, or $96 per novel per year to keep up, not including periodic mass releases.

That just seems insane to me, paying nearly the cost of netflix to read a single webnovel.


*I didn't bother collecting much data, I just based it on the 3 novels I follow.

LOL just sign up with a temporary email address, like temp-mail.org. They give you ~70 spirit stones when you sign up. On PC the new reader gift shows up as a little present box in the bottom right corner. Click on it to collect spirit stones and read.

Captain_duck
Dec 3, 2005

I swear nice bushes!
The spirit stones remove ads, they arent required to read at all. Sure there annoying ads that take like 30 seconds, but its a small wait compared to a chapter. Also, the ads only show up on the most recent couple of chapters. If your reading the backlog you dont even need to pay spirit stones.

Bakanogami
Dec 31, 2004


Grimey Drawer
This site sounds pretty poo poo guys

Mygna
Sep 12, 2011

Captain_duck posted:

The spirit stones remove ads, they arent required to read at all. Sure there annoying ads that take like 30 seconds, but its a small wait compared to a chapter. Also, the ads only show up on the most recent couple of chapters. If your reading the backlog you dont even need to pay spirit stones.

Nah, that's how it worked at the start, but more and more of their series have become "premium" series, which are locked to one chapter a day becoming readable without paying, no unlocking through ads allowed. Given the minimum release rate is double that or higher, a premium series will quickly build up a larger and larger stockpile of locked chapters - Release that Witch is up to 140+ already at this point, for example.

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Tornhelm
Jul 26, 2008

If one free chapter a day really isn't enough for you, I'm amazed at how you can bear to put yourself through the torture of reading anything not one of the big sites. 99% of translations are 1-2 chapters a week at best, and you're whinging because you get 7?

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