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Artum posted:It's a harpoon. Supposedly heavy 1 doing 2d6 with rerolls to hit against big things, and possibly a melee profile too. Oh hey, someone liked the ursus claws from Betrayer.
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So I just started playing 40k with my friends and had a great time! I painted up two boxes of “start collecting” mechanicum, borrowed a buddy’s onager and muddled my way through two games. I really enjoyed myself, but i left the table wishing that I had stronger options for seizing objectives. I read and familiarized myself with 4chan’s tactic section on the mechanicum and one of the strategies they suggest is playing as mars and dropping in a bunch of robot ninjas (sicarian infiltrators) to run around and harass the enemy’s backlines. Have you guys ever seen anything like that be effective? I want my future list to have an emphasis on mobility since we are limiting ourselves to 1k points for the foreseeable future, so running Cawl and a bunch of robots wouldn’t be a particularly efficient use of points at that level.
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May 27, 2018 23:00
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As excited as i am about the new knights, I’m most looking forward to that freeblade dude.
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May 27, 2018 23:10
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Hot Dog Day #82 posted:So I just started playing 40k with my friends and had a great time! I painted up two boxes of “start collecting” mechanicum, borrowed a buddy’s onager and muddled my way through two games. I really enjoyed myself, but i left the table wishing that I had stronger options for seizing objectives. Welcome to the hobby, yeah backline harass is generally very useful to have since for a lot of army's tanks once you charge them they'll basically be helpless for the rest of the game.
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May 27, 2018 23:10
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Hot Dog Day #82 posted:So I just started playing 40k with my friends and had a great time! I painted up two boxes of “start collecting” mechanicum, borrowed a buddy’s onager and muddled my way through two games. I really enjoyed myself, but i left the table wishing that I had stronger options for seizing objectives. For backline tricks Stygies is a far better option, as you can opt to infiltrate any unit for 1CP and the -1 to hit >12” improves your survivability in the process. Rangers and Vanguard are actually surprisingly good at holding objectives, as you get a 1CP stratagem to improve their armor and add an attack if you’re on an objective.
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May 27, 2018 23:12
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PierreTheMime posted:as you get a 1CP stratagem to improve their armor and add an attack if you’re on an objective. 2cp sadly, I wish it was that cheap.
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May 27, 2018 23:14
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Artum posted:2cp sadly, I wish it was that cheap. Whoops, misremembered. You are correct. It’s still a solid option though.
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May 27, 2018 23:19
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Its also worth noting that despite their tank treads, kataphrons are indeed infantry, so if you have that and shroud psalm up at the same time you've got t5 3w 2+6++sv infantry, 1+ if they're breachers.
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May 27, 2018 23:22
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Artum posted:Its also worth noting that despite their tank treads, kataphrons are indeed infantry, so if you have that and shroud psalm up at the same time you've got t5 3w 2+6++sv infantry, 1+ if they're breachers. As much as I love the models and their firepower, they’re in the sweet spot of targeting for high damage fire, particularly predator autocannons and the like. I still run a unit at least, but unless you’re stomping the enemy expect them to disappear.
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May 27, 2018 23:29
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Artum posted:Its also worth noting that despite their tank treads, kataphrons are indeed infantry, so if you have that and shroud psalm up at the same time you've got t5 3w 2+6++sv infantry, 1+ if they're breachers. Yeah, I was looking at Ryza too as a possible Forgeworld so I can go heavy on the plasma. I’m not super thrilled with the idea of being Mars or Stygies because, despite their obvious effectiveness, I am a silly tech priest and like the idea of trying to play a less common Forgeworld to keep other players on their toes.
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May 27, 2018 23:33
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Hot Dog Day #82 posted:Yeah, I was looking at Ryza too as a possible Forgeworld so I can go heavy on the plasma. I’m not super thrilled with the idea of being Mars or Stygies because, despite their obvious effectiveness, I am a silly tech priest and like the idea of trying to play a less common Forgeworld to keep other players on their toes. I used graia to great effect at our state tournament last weekend. The trait and stratagem are really clutch when it counts.
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May 27, 2018 23:36
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Hencoe posted:I used graia to great effect at our state tournament last weekend. The trait and stratagem are really clutch when it counts. What kind of list did you play with? I don’t want anything in depth or like that, but any kind of direction would be helpful! Like I said before I have two start collecting boxes painted and modeled up, so right now I’m debating what to buy next. One of my friends plays 1000 Sons, so Graia would be a viable option for me to play as!
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May 27, 2018 23:38
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Fuuuuuck that new Renegade box rerelease  I am going to try and snag 3 or 4 of them and sell the bits separately and end up with free terrain galore (and maybe keep one)
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May 27, 2018 23:39
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PierreTheMime posted:As much as I love the models and their firepower, they’re in the sweet spot of targeting for high damage fire, particularly predator autocannons and the like. I still run a unit at least, but unless you’re stomping the enemy expect them to disappear. Hey if they want to shoot tanky infantry instead of my neutron crabs they're welcome to.
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May 27, 2018 23:41
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Hot Dog Day #82 posted:What kind of list did you play with? I don’t want anything in depth or like that, but any kind of direction would be helpful! Like I said before I have two start collecting boxes painted and modeled up, so right now I’m debating what to buy next. One of my friends plays 1000 Sons, so Graia would be a viable option for me to play as! I used mine as backup for my knights, just with a dominus, enginseer and a bunch of infantry. With the get started dunecrawlers with the neutron laser give you excellent anti tank. I prefer vanguard to rangers just because of volume of fire and those 2 damage 6s can add up real quick.
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May 27, 2018 23:45
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Artum posted:It's a harpoon. Supposedly heavy 1 doing 2d6 with rerolls to hit against big things, and possibly a melee profile too. Gonna be real sad if knights get a harpoon gun and it doesnt pull enemies towards them. Want to hear about knights pulling a Scorpion on a tank before throwing it at another tank.
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May 27, 2018 23:51
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What's a good back line harasser for Tyranids? Getting used to fighting people with a gunline in the back ranks and I'd like something for that. Harpy has a bonkers 30" move but not sure it's the best unit for that.
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May 27, 2018 23:52
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bird food bathtub posted:What's a good back line harasser for Tyranids? Getting used to fighting people with a gunline in the back ranks and I'd like something for that. Harpy has a bonkers 30" move but not sure it's the best unit for that. I regularly field Harpies for exactly this reason and the potential extra damage that spore mines and heavy venom cannons produce. I play as Kraken and you essentially just bounce from one unit to another each turn until they’re dead or your Harpies are. A good turn one assault in the backline can stymie your opponent’s momentum to a degree that you can just take them apart as you please.
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May 27, 2018 23:55
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No clue how effective infantry GSC are, but the entire faction has Cult Ambush, which is one of the few turn-one deep strike units, they might be useful for backline harass.
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May 27, 2018 23:58
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If the Armigers are less expensive I should be able to field three of them with the battalion I am working on and have 1500 points painted. Hooray! In my ideal world I will be able to ditch the CC weapons and field dual thermal spears on the Warglaives. I feel like being forced to pay for a CC weapon that they suck at using isn't really viable.
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May 28, 2018 00:22
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Neurolimal posted:No clue how effective infantry GSC are, but the entire faction has Cult Ambush, which is one of the few turn-one deep strike units, they might be useful for backline harass. Incredibly bad AFAIK
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May 28, 2018 00:23
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May 28, 2018 00:30
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:From Facebook: Aw yiss they’re going to include traitors in the same book. 
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May 28, 2018 00:45
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:From Facebook: Extremely horney for these Brettonia bots
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May 28, 2018 00:53
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PierreTheMime posted:Aw yiss they’re going to include traitors in the same book. Don't get your hopes up, the leaked houses only had questor imperialis and questor mechanics, and this is one of them.
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May 28, 2018 00:57
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PierreTheMime posted:Aw yiss they’re going to include traitors in the same book. I think the allegiance thing is Imperial Knights/Mechanicus Knights, not loyalist/traitor.
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May 28, 2018 00:57
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If a bunch of people have access to leaks why has nobody posted a link?
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May 28, 2018 01:03
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Artum posted:Don't get your hopes up, the leaked houses only had questor imperialis and questor mechanics, and this is one of them. Blarg. I mean, it’s still going to be cool, but it would have been nice if they bridged that gap and it’s one of the only books where they could have fit them both with little or no extra work.
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Technowolf posted:I think the allegiance thing is Imperial Knights/Mechanicus Knights, not loyalist/traitor. What is the difference between IK MK?
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JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:What is the difference between IK MK? whether they're loyal to the Imperium or to the Mechanicum, I imagine.
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JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:What is the difference between IK MK? Mechanicum Knights get a unique stratagem called “Knight of the Cog” which lets them take advantage of the Canticle of the Omnissiah, which they otherwise couldn’t since they aren’t a part of the Forgeworld detachment the proper Adeptus Mechanicus army is in.
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JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:What is the difference between IK MK? Mechanicus can use a stratagem to give questor mechanicus units the current canticle for the battle round for 1cp, so a knight with cover or reroll 1s in ranged/melee or +1 strength, and tech priests can fix knights for 1 wound or if you take a specific warlord trait and use a stratagem can fix 4 wounds a turn. Pendent posted:If a bunch of people have access to leaks why has nobody posted a link? Some Nerd posted:Questor Imperial Houses Artum fucked around with this message at 01:40 on May 28, 2018 |
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May 28, 2018 01:36
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Yeah, MK are directly tied to a forge world, IK are tied to a knight world. Hawkshroud are IK, they just own some random planet that has a lot of agriculture. House Taranis is MK, they're literally from Mars.
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May 28, 2018 01:40
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I'll post my walker from a few months back. Eventually I'd love to get more of them
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May 28, 2018 01:46
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Since we've seen the valiant now and the weapons match up might as well pass this along.other nerds posted:Warden roughly being 411 points rather than 466. Which tbh I'm hoping isnt true what with those earlier leaks saying theres a stratagem to use those missiles on characters, and that basically reads "kill target dude".
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May 28, 2018 01:57
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mango sentinel posted:All in on Hawkshroud Yeah that seems like the most powerful option by far, although the CYOA Freelancer rules could be interesting. Artum posted:Since we've seen the valiant now and the weapons match up might as well pass this along. I really hope they give people more flexibility in terms of weapon choices.
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May 28, 2018 02:15
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If that harpoon can't reel things in to the Knight (and counts them as in melee for the Fight phase) it would be a travesty.
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Shockeh posted:If that harpoon can't reel things in to the Knight (and counts them as in melee for the Fight phase) it would be a travesty. If it's based on the harpoon claws from Betrayer (where they were used by Warhounds), they're not used that way - in that book the harpoons were used to trip Titans and pull them down, or en masse to bind the guns of huge titans (an Imperator in the book) to disable them.
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Contemptor with 10 wounds and a single shot multimelta is 3 points more than that armiger with a d3 shot multimelta. Sounds balanced.
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