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Harik
Sep 9, 2001

From the hard streets of Moscow
First dog to touch the stars


Plaster Town Cop

banned from Starbucks posted:

The Left: Cops are dumb, worthless, lazy and bad at their job. gently caress cops

also the Left: lol why do you need a gun just like call the cops or something
"I'm not bright enough to hold more than one thought in my head at once, so neither is anyone else!"

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MixMastaTJ
Dec 14, 2017

banned from Starbucks posted:

Ahh right that good ol middle ground that you'll keep pushing towards an eventual total ban. Yes I keep forgetting how tempting that idea is to gun owners.

Sometimes arming police is pretty good middle ground I would say

roguemenace
Apr 20, 2016
Why does the left make so many gun laws that don't make sense. I can understand magazine size restrictions (but not agree with them) but all the banning of cosmetic features in some US States confuses me. What's the point?

Zanzibar Ham
Mar 17, 2009

You giving me the cold shoulder? How cruel.


Grimey Drawer
Maybe it's not leftists making those rules but gunhavers trying to make it seem like they're doing something without actually doing anything, kind of like a legalistic 'thoughts and prayers'.

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

roguemenace posted:

Why does the left make so many gun laws that don't make sense. I can understand magazine size restrictions (but not agree with them) but all the banning of cosmetic features in some US States confuses me. What's the point?

The point is that it makes gun owners cry, which is its own reward. Also we should ban more cosmetic features, like being able to shoot bullets at all.

RuanGacho
Jun 20, 2002

"You're gunna break it!"

roguemenace posted:

Why does the left make so many gun laws that don't make sense. I can understand magazine size restrictions (but not agree with them) but all the banning of cosmetic features in some US States confuses me. What's the point?

The left hasn't passed a gun bill in 40 years. 90's Dems were not "left" despite all their nanny stating about media.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

roguemenace posted:

Why does the left make so many gun laws that don't make sense. I can understand magazine size restrictions (but not agree with them) but all the banning of cosmetic features in some US States confuses me. What's the point?

The NRA helps to make these laws worthless by adding in all of the "ban tacticool accessories" stuff then they can turn around and go "wow look at this dumb bill that bans rifle stocks, all they do is make the gun comfier to hold, lmao look at this trash law, we should never pass gun control again it will always be trash just like this!"

Every time the AWB gets brought up as the standard all future gun legislation should be judged by, they win.

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World
LMFAO at people who don't want effective gun control complaining about X example of gun control for being weak, that's some disingenuous loving poo poo right there.

LITERALLY MY FETISH
Nov 11, 2010


Raise Chris Coons' taxes so that we can have Medicare for All.

banned from Starbucks posted:

Ahh right that good ol middle ground that you'll keep pushing towards an eventual total ban. Yes I keep forgetting how tempting that idea is to gun owners.

Maybe if gun nuts had allowed for a middle ground we could go there, but leftists are definitely not the people who littered no man’s land with dead children due to willful stupidity.

You had your chance to fix this problem, and you spent it supporting the NRA. Nobody gives a gently caress about what you want anymore, and nobody should because you lost that right like a teenager losing car rights for running into a tree. You dug your own murdertoys’ grave on this one.

Elizabethan Error
May 18, 2006

banned from Starbucks posted:

Ahh right that good ol middle ground that you'll keep pushing towards an eventual total ban. Yes I keep forgetting how tempting that idea is to gun owners.
yah it really sucks that guns should have to be held to the same safety standards as everything else, instead of how it is now with laughable safety records.

wait, no sorry. you're just a loving idiot and noone cares about what gun owners think of safety standards or background checks etc any more. too little too late.

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.
Watching the no-gun-control crowd constantly talking about the armed insurrection of gun-havers that will never happen(because they're cowards) is great, as it's an extension of the "I need a gun for when the brown hoards come to take my PS4" fantasy.

Angry Hippo
May 12, 2004

by Nyc_Tattoo
The gun grabbers want to make sure we are disarmed when they finally break it to us that there is no money for medicare/social security and we kicked the can down the road for the last time.

LITERALLY MY FETISH
Nov 11, 2010


Raise Chris Coons' taxes so that we can have Medicare for All.

Angry Hippo posted:

The gun grabbers want to make sure we are disarmed when they finally break it to us that there is no money for medicare/social security and we kicked the can down the road for the last time.

The only option is to take your guns and take the money from the rich right now, because if you wait until the money's gone having a gun won't matter.

Eat the rich now.

Elizabethan Error
May 18, 2006

Angry Hippo posted:

The gun grabbers want to make sure we are disarmed when they finally break it to us that there is no money for medicare/social security and we kicked the can down the road for the last time.
guns: literally the only way you can defend yourself from range

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Angry Hippo posted:

The gun grabbers want to make sure we are disarmed when they finally break it to us that there is no money for medicare/social security and we kicked the can down the road for the last time.

That seems wrong though, since it's the NRA mouthpieces who also want to gut those programs whereas the gun control people want well-funded social safety nets

suck my woke dick
Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!

Elizabethan Error posted:

guns: literally the only way you can defend yourself from range

I want to see a crossbow toting redneck militia.

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World
Now gun nuts are the real socialists, as they vote straight ticket Republican for the 100,000th time.

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin

Angry Hippo posted:

The gun grabbers want to make sure we are disarmed when they finally break it to us that there is no money for medicare/social security and we kicked the can down the road for the last time.

No money? Oh no! The government might have to do what it does every other time it spends more than it takes in.
Edit: maybe we'd be able to afford it if we didn't lose so much productivity from all these mass shootings?

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Oct 10, 2012

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sean10mm posted:

Now gun nuts are the real socialists, as they vote straight ticket Republican for the 100,000th time.

Well, I’m sure you’d agree it’d be better to have 100 million armed socialists than Republicans

Flowers For Algeria
Dec 3, 2005

I humbly offer my services as forum inquisitor. There is absolutely no way I would abuse this power in any way.


Probably not, because gun ownership is a hazard. I wouldn’t want socialists accidentally hurting themselves because of guns.

I think I can offer a middle of the road solution: no guns for anyone.

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.
Armed socialists might actually fight injustice with their weapons.

Polygynous
Dec 13, 2006
welp

Jaxyon posted:

Armed socialists might actually fight injustice with their weapons.

sounds like a surefire way to get the right to support gun control

Iron Croissant 64
Jun 2, 2018

by R. Guyovich
This is the gun chat thread? Cool. I picked up a sweet spanish mauser (go franco!) this year but cant find 7.62 CETME anywhere. I dont wanna be one of those reloading weirdos, should i shoot .308 through it or will it blow up in my face?

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





Iron Croissant 64 posted:

will it blow up in my face?

you should be good to go

Zanzibar Ham
Mar 17, 2009

You giving me the cold shoulder? How cruel.


Grimey Drawer

Iron Croissant 64 posted:

This is the gun chat thread? Cool. I picked up a sweet spanish mauser (go franco!) this year but cant find 7.62 CETME anywhere. I dont wanna be one of those reloading weirdos, should i shoot .308 through it or will it blow up in my face?

You should get a magazine for your gun, it'll probably have relevant info. Or get some clips on Youtube.

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe

suck my woke dick posted:

I want to see a crossbow toting redneck militia.

Crossbows for a long while were more regulated than guns for hunting because they weren't seen as 'sporting' unless you had some sort of disability that prevented you from using bows.

Iron Croissant 64
Jun 2, 2018

by R. Guyovich

Party Plane Jones posted:

Crossbows for a long while were more regulated than guns for hunting because they weren't seen as 'sporting' unless you had some sort of disability that prevented you from using bows.

Bow hunters in general seem pretty thoughtful about the whole thing. Joe rogan did a 10 minute speech on draw strength and making sure the animal is killed as painlessly as possible.

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Party Plane Jones posted:

Crossbows for a long while were more regulated than guns for hunting because they weren't seen as 'sporting' unless you had some sort of disability that prevented you from using bows.

Honestly this is how guns should be thought of today, too: only needed by people with some kind of (mental) disability

archangelwar
Oct 28, 2004

Teaching Moments

QuarkJets posted:

Honestly this is how guns should be thought of today, too: only needed by people with some kind of (mental) disability

You are just making a statement of fact. Nearly tautological.

chesnok
Nov 14, 2014

Iron Croissant 64 posted:

Bow hunters in general seem pretty thoughtful about the whole thing. Joe rogan did a 10 minute speech on draw strength and making sure the animal is killed as painlessly as possible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnfY4bMn4Qo&t=349s

Flowers For Algeria
Dec 3, 2005

I humbly offer my services as forum inquisitor. There is absolutely no way I would abuse this power in any way.



What manner of wanton wretch would do such a thing.

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Oct 10, 2012

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Party Plane Jones posted:

Crossbows for a long while were more regulated than guns for hunting because they weren't seen as 'sporting' unless you had some sort of disability that prevented you from using bows.

Hunting law/tradition attitudes on what constitutes an acceptable hunting weapon are really weird, like there’s still some epic struggle of man vs beast that you have to win fairly.

In the 21st century there are hunting quotas and basically three reasons to hunt. 1) you like to eat venison, 2) you’re doing pest control, 3) you pretend the epic struggle of man vs beast is still real so you gotta shoot something in an intentionally inefficient way before turning it into a trophy. It shouldn’t matter whether you’re putting an arrow, .22 LR, or a hail of autocannon fire into a deer if you want to exterminate it and if you want to eat it you’re only limited by not wanting to turn the entire deer into red chunks with too much firepower. I can’t imagine the deer cares as long as you make sure it dies quickly.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




In my country bow hunting is actually illegal because it is seen as an inefficient way to kill animals.

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Oct 10, 2012

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Alhazred posted:

In my country bow hunting is actually illegal because it is seen as an inefficient way to kill animals.

Usually where that is the case, it's because using bows it's too easy to miss a shot and stick the deer somewhere not immediately fatal, i.e. because of worries about suffering.

e: often, at the same time, things like night vision scopes are banned because ~we can't have randos using high tech to just shoot a loving deer with minimal effort, it's totally unfair :byodood:~

suck my woke dick fucked around with this message at 12:09 on Jun 8, 2018

Nosfereefer
Jun 15, 2011

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Surely, if we arm the deer...

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Oct 10, 2012

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Nosfereefer posted:

Surely, if we arm the deer...

I refer to my earlier post about the right to arm bears :colbert:

Flowers For Algeria
Dec 3, 2005

I humbly offer my services as forum inquisitor. There is absolutely no way I would abuse this power in any way.


suck my woke dick posted:

Usually where that is the case, it's because using bows it's too easy to miss a shot and stick the deer somewhere not immediately fatal, i.e. because of worries about suffering.

e: often, at the same time, things like night vision scopes are banned because ~we can't have randos using high tech to just shoot a loving deer with minimal effort, it's totally unfair :byodood:~

Yep, hunting animals is bullshit and cowardly and effortless and a gross-rear end pastime. It’s another lovely toxic power trip thing that is ubiquitous amongst whites. Frankly, if that’s what you’re gonna do with guns, gently caress you.

Flowers For Algeria
Dec 3, 2005

I humbly offer my services as forum inquisitor. There is absolutely no way I would abuse this power in any way.


It’s actually perfectly fair to highlight how gloryless and cowardly and effortless shooting defenseless animals from afar is, when hunting aficionados stake so much of their masculinity on it.

Hunters should be ridiculed and spit on.

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





If you're going to eat what you hunt and it's a species that needs population control, I think there are probably better things to rage against. Seems more humane than how we usually raise meat.

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Oct 10, 2012

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I'm totally ok with hunting because a) venison tastes good and b) it's sometimes useful for controlling invasive animals or limiting numbers of herbivores where predators are extinct, but most of the "it's unsporting :qqsay:" limitations need to go the gently caress away because the whole point is to achieve something which happens to involve shooting animals dead and there's no good reason to make the shooting part harder. For instance, shooting from aircraft is strictly banned for hunting in many places in Europe and there are general rules against hunting weapons that allow indiscriminate killing stemming from a combination of outdated hunting and conservation legislation (that's the stated reason for why hunting semiautos must not be loaded with more than 3 shots in Germany and other EU countries, not gun control) when these things are actually cool and good to exterminate pest species quickly and efficiently (shooting goats indiscriminately from the air having been successfully used to e.g. de-goat sensitive island ecosystems, in combination with training locals to shoot all the goats they came across) and I'd have no problems with conservation authorities asking the army to strafe goats with helicopter gunships if it became useful to do so.

I give absolutely zero fucks about whether the act of hunting is personally gloryless and cowardly or whatever from the perspective of proving your manliness (hunters might as well be outdoors slaughterhouse workers as far as I care), but beyond making sure that hunting for useful purposes isn't hampered by glory-hounding idiots making up stupid rules I don't particularly give a poo poo about whether any individual hunter might be an rear end in a top hat either.

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