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Pinterest Mom posted:That's not how the basic personal amount works in Canada, or in any province that I'm aware of. Everybody receives exactly the same tax credit from the basic personal amount, which is equal to the lowest rate * amount. You're not subtracting from your income, you're just receiving a tax credit exactly offsetting the tax you would have to pay on the first X of your income. Oh hey, my bad. Looks like that is how it goes.
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Yeah, the basic exemption is just a credit at a flat rate, not a deduction. The only way it's really unfair is to rich couples who can afford to have a spouse not work, in which case it can be transferred to the working spouse. Again, it's a flat amount of 15% federal + provincial amount (5.05% in Ontario).
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May 28, 2018 18:51
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LerC609ml3A&t=3668s Analyzing the debate further, this Ford stumble is hilarious. He simply didn't understand what to do with the simple instructions from the moderator. Following this is the Wynne/Horwath shouting match about unions and bill 115.
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May 28, 2018 19:04
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Risky Bisquick posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LerC609ml3A&t=3668s I get it, ladies.
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May 28, 2018 19:13
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Subjunctive posted:I think the ONDP would be in a stronger position to use the S word after they’ve had a successful term in office governing from the left. I don’t think people who are leaning Liberal or PC right now are likely to respond positively to an explicit message of socialism at this point. Let them experience the benefits of diet socialism for a few years to soften them up. I just wish Andrea had responded to Ford’s “I’m scared of an NDP govt” with “you should be” Make it clear that that... creature is an enemy of all people. Most would agree.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LerC609ml3A&t=4363s Some Ford rambling and getting ribbed on by Wynne, then Horwath, and then shut down by the moderator. This leads into his botched open question to Horwath giving her more time to hammer away at talking points 
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May 28, 2018 19:23
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Risky Bisquick posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LerC609ml3A&t=4363s He stumbled hard on that question too like his handlers had set it up for him then he forgot the wording.
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May 28, 2018 19:26
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Happy Confederation Page, canpol thread! 
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May 28, 2018 19:29
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Leofish posted:Happy Confederation Page, canpol thread! Amazing that before this page there was absolutley nothing and nobody here.
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May 28, 2018 19:31
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Quick everyone get staggering drunk and say racist things just like the fathers of our country!
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May 28, 2018 19:32
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Time to wrap it up https://twitter.com/davidakin/status/1001168133816659968?s=19
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brucio posted:Time to wrap it up Its highly likely this is a polling aberration much like that poll that had the NDP at 40%+ support. I can't imagine the last debate shifting polling that dramatically after one day. Le Saboteur fucked around with this message at 19:50 on May 28, 2018 |
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May 28, 2018 19:45
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Found this on twitter. 1000 water bottles wrapped with Andrew Scheer's face to celebrate one year as Conservative Party leader. Looks like the CPC is gonna partayyyyyy tonight, y'all!
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Leofish posted:Found this on twitter. 1000 water bottles wrapped with Andrew Scheer's face to celebrate one year as Conservative Party leader. They look like they were printed on a home printer, and cut and placed by interns.
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May 28, 2018 19:51
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Horwath was there to stump against your opponent, you dummy.
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May 28, 2018 20:00
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Le Saboteur posted:Its highly likely this is a polling aberration much like that poll that had the NDP at 40%+ support. I can't imagine the last debate shifting polling that dramatically after one day. Nah it seems to be in line with what’s gonna happen. Vote splitting on the left and a comfortable PC Majority won on hot air. Most people think Ford won that debate decisively. And there’s lots more that just dismiss everything the NDP have to say as readily as they’d cheer for the leafs over the Canadiens.
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Typo posted:the funny thing about FORD is that he hasn't even came up with anything terrible like hudak's fire everyone platform, it's more like he just hasn't came up with anything at all and looks like a retard. FORD isn't the scary demagogue that he's trying to emulate, he's just a laughingstock. I'm less worried about Ford himself and more about what the people he surrounds himself are gonna do with the reins of power.
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Kraftwerk posted:Nah it seems to be in line with what’s gonna happen. Vote splitting on the left and a comfortable PC Majority won on hot air. Most people think Ford won that debate decisively. And there’s lots more that just dismiss everything the NDP have to say as readily as they’d cheer for the leafs over the Canadiens. That poll doesn't indicate any vote splitting on the left post debate as nothing shifted back to the liberals. There was a 4 point shift between the NDP and Cons which I find hard to believe but if other polls play it out then sure. All media I read post debate said Doug Ford looked like a fool during the debate, but I don't read the Toronto Sun so maybe they had something positive to say.
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Kraftwerk posted:Nah it seems to be in line with what’s gonna happen. Vote splitting on the left and a comfortable PC Majority won on hot air. Most people think Ford won that debate decisively. And there’s lots more that just dismiss everything the NDP have to say as readily as they’d cheer for the leafs over the Canadiens. Where are you reading that people think Ford won the debate? Because it isn't the newspapers. I've looked at them all. Anyways, seems like the horse race between the two is within the margin of error of most polls. We won't know what happens until June 8th.
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Reince Penis posted:Again, the problem with the Progressive Conservative campaign isn't necessarily all the ideas it's who those ideas fit together in a budget. Nobody knows, including apparently the PC. It's a total crap shoot of promises that don't mesh. Exactly. It's really just a matter of how far you're willing to go in making your promises practically impossible and/or amorphous. The playbook afterwards, if he gets elected, is to play on the "well you KNEW we had to make these cuts to be fiscally responsible". If beer doesn't cost $1 it will somehow be Wynne's fault is all. Repeat ad nauseum with most future policies. It's either "well this is the mandate" or "it was THEIR fault".
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May 28, 2018 20:16
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Reince Penis posted:Where are you reading that people think Ford won the debate? Because it isn't the newspapers. I've looked at them all. A reminder: Trump supporters all thought Trump won the debates in the US, despite the weird stalking behaviour, coke sniffles, and the "no puppet, no puppet, you're the puppet!" nonsense, which sounds as infantile as it is stupid. People watching debates will almost always see what they want to see.
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May 28, 2018 21:32
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PT6A posted:Oh, that's bad. It gives an almost equivalent benefit to workers (a few hundred dollars less but Dougie doesn't care about that) but the money comes from the state through decreased revenue, rather than coming from corporations through higher wages. It's a way to give workers slightly more money in their pockets by shrinking the state instead of by making rich people pay ever so slightly more than poverty wages. It's exactly the kind of policy you would expect from a conservative party that wants to look like it's appealing to workers but still actually only cares about redistributing more wealth to the rich.
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May 28, 2018 21:43
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PC leading again. Lmao
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May 28, 2018 21:56
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It’s going to be super funny to see the OCP get 35% in each riding and control 100% of the seats.
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May 28, 2018 21:59
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https://twitter.com/davidakin/status/1001206481751027714 Not so fast nerds
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Reince Penis posted:https://twitter.com/davidakin/status/1001206481751027714 Boy this is sure an entertaining election
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I got an IVR poll from "Ontario Proud" on my cell a couple days ago. First question was what party was I likely to vote for in the upcoming election.
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I think what people often forget is that when so many people like us posting in this thread see some conservative heap of poo poo "out" him self as a racist poor-hating idiot who trips over their own words we think that's going to hurt them, the problem is that a huge chunk of voters see this and get excited thinking "Wow, this guy says what I think and talks like a regular guy like me!" That's the horrifying thing, that the "ugly right" is learning it doesn't need to hide behind a facade of respectability in this post-trump era.
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May 28, 2018 22:05
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Worth noting that the PC leading Ipsos poll sample size was ~20% smaller than the NDP leading Mainstreet one. I still think we're inside the margin of error for both though. I also think the PC vote is more concentrated in the Toronto suburbs while the NDP is more spread around the province, which means the NDP picks up more seats at a tie but that's probably bias on my part.
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It’s really loving dumb to try and weave a narrative based on a single poll (“PCs take lead: ipsos” “NDP surge continues: Mainstreet”)
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infernal machines posted:I got an IVR poll from "Ontario Proud" on my cell a couple days ago. First question was what party was I likely to vote for in the upcoming election. I've always wondered who started that dumbass facebook group and if you told me it was the Russians I would not be surprised. Lmao at being proud of Ontario or any other province.
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It's this clown, formerly of the amazingly successful Sun News Network
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I voted ONDP but my riding (Waterloo) seems to be very heavily blue sign-wise and from speaking to others. My family (eastern european immigrants) and many others seem to have gone full Ford. We're ONDP incumbent so it should be close though.
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Reince Penis posted:https://twitter.com/davidakin/status/1001206481751027714 drat liberals splitting the vote. A vote for red is a vote for blue
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Wilhelm posted:I voted ONDP but my riding (Waterloo) seems to be very heavily blue sign-wise and from speaking to others. My family (eastern european immigrants) and many others seem to have gone full Ford. We're ONDP incumbent so it should be close though. It's not ideal the election is happening in the summer because there'll be far less students voting there.
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Terror Sweat posted:drat liberals splitting the vote. A vote for red is a vote for blue I think you'll find a vote for anyone is a vote for blue  Would you like to hear more about the upcoming communist revolution and our lord and saviour Bernie Sanders, who we cherish for some reason?
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Wilhelm posted:I voted ONDP but my riding (Waterloo) seems to be very heavily blue sign-wise and from speaking to others. My family (eastern european immigrants) and many others seem to have gone full Ford. We're ONDP incumbent so it should be close though. my riding is pretty much red/blue signs only in equal measure projections say it's basically 33%/33%/33% complete toss up though
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Reince Penis posted:Worth noting that the PC leading Ipsos poll sample size was ~20% smaller than the NDP leading Mainstreet one. I still think we're inside the margin of error for both though. bingo: NDP vote is a lot less efficiently distributed than either liberal or PC if this is america 538 would tell us what the PV margins are gonna be needed for NDP to overcome this but we aren't so
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