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Yandat posted:a black mirror portraying a successful luddite revolution where they kill all the techies would be pretty sweet, surprised it hasnt been done bm deals with good things going bad, not bad things going good
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MC Hawking posted:Traveling without moving. what a strange trick
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Local steichmasters hate this one trick to transcendental enlightenment!
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MC Hawking posted:Have you considered that "traveling without moving" may just be a euphemism for disco dancing while tripping on acid really hard. yea
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I've linked this guy's videos before but i really enjoy his voice and hearing dune lore i already know. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSc8hpQMtmg he also does ASOIAF and stuff but i don't care about that poo poo anymore since grrm will be dead before winds releases and that show's unwatchable these days.
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I want to know what “walking without rhythm” is supposed to look like, since it’s apparently something you can learn to do instinctually and also can presumably do fairly quickly. It makes me wonder if Fremen would be known the galaxy over as really lovely dancers. poo poo, now I want a chapter about a Fremen amphibious assault unit from Paul’s jihad. Even if the soldiers don’t have crises of faith and become disillusioned with Mua’dib’s message like the one dude Scytale kills, they’d definitely be really lovely swimmers who would keep trying to drink seawater. The only problem is I know that’s the kind of thing that I imagine Brian would try doing. Maybe it would work if it was a veteran talking about it after the fact? Liquid Dinosaur fucked around with this message at 18:52 on May 26, 2018 |
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KJA is known mostly for writing without rhythm
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yeah i struggle to think of how to actually walk without rhythm. i bet you could do it, but even doing a randomized pattern of walking will probably repeat itself in some fashion over time, and slow your movement greatly and increase the risk of injury especially on like, open sand. i know the whole point is it's hard to survive out there, but i really can't visualize walking without rhythm as anything other than lookling like an awkward drunken stumble
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Liquid Dinosaur posted:I want to know what “walking without rhythm” is supposed to look like, since it’s apparently something you can learn to do instinctually and also can presumably do fairly quickly. That one Frank Herbert just kind of left to your imagination as he did a lot of things. The Fremen developed a walking style to use in the desert that doesn't have rhythm so it's less likely to attract worms. You can learn the basics but experienced Fremen can make it mimic normal deserts sounds so closely it never attracts worms. To make extra sure you plant thumpers to keep the worms off your poo poo. He doesn't worry about going deep into the details of how it looks because it really isn't all that relevant.
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Liquid Dinosaur posted:poo poo, now I want a chapter about a Fremen amphibious assault unit from Paul’s jihad. Even if the soldiers don’t have crises of faith and become disillusioned with Mua’dib’s message like the one dude Scytale kills, they’d definitely be really lovely swimmers who would keep trying to drink seawater.
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me, from the distant past, ancestral memories transmitting to paul atreides: dude just force all your jihadis to stop on caladan so they lose their faith
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basic hitler posted:me, from the distant past, ancestral memories transmitting to paul atreides: Jessica banned them from Caladan fwiw
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That scene where she returns to Arrakis and just fucks around with Alia until someone tries to merc her was pretty good. I also liked that the end of that scene was her running off to safety with an old fremen naib who came there to lodge a complaint during an audience with Alia. Nice way of showing that the oldschool fremen still trusted her over Alia and the new Imperium.
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The new smilie,  [death to America] looks a little like Alia.
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I'm assuming sandworms can't just up and eat people / animals due to the water content, so why would they evolve to be drawn to a walking kind of rhythm?
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Mad Hamish posted:I'm assuming sandworms can't just up and eat people / animals due to the water content, so why would they evolve to be drawn to a walking kind of rhythm? Now that you mention it, what DO sand worms eat to get so big? Some kind of sand krill? I can't recall it being mentioned, but the only book I've read repeatedly is the first one. Also, if anyone's itching for more desert & drugs & insanity sci-fi, with a dash of Apocalypse Now and Moby Dick, you might like Involution Ocean by Bruce Sterling. Our protagonist is addicted to a drug called Flare, which is made from the ambergris of whales that swim through vast oceans of sand. He cons his way into working on a whaling ship so he can start breaking bad. Then poo poo goes sideways, I won't spoil anything else. It's got some great details of world-building; I was just reminded of it because one thing is you never want to do on this planet is spit or bleed or pee over the side of the ship, because there are razor sharp flying fish that sense moisture in the sand the way a shark smells chum or a worm senses rhythm. Also, the giant sand whales eat sand krill.
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a lot of the sandworm biology stuff is overviewed in Children and God Emperor if you really want to understand worms but i can't remember offhand what they actually eat or what causes them to grow aside from sandtrout being a part of their lifecycle
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JacquelineDempsey posted:Now that you mention it, what DO sand worms eat to get so big? Some kind of sand krill? I can't recall it being mentioned, but the only book I've read repeatedly is the first one. Hey, I think I read that a long time ago. Do they turn a dead whale into a sand submarine?
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Shaddak posted:I think they primarily feed on sand plankton. Yeah, they eat sand plankton and the adults are very territorial so they attack anything that might be another adult digging in their territory (presumably they dig rhythmically.
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Zopotantor posted:Hey, I think I read that a long time ago. Do they (spoilers that will turn up if I quote this, at least on my device)? Yep! One of Sterling's real early novels (maybe his first?) before he got into cyberpunk. Again, highly recommended for the fine people with excellent taste in this thread.
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I've read the sand worm biology section of the Dune appendix a dozen times and still can't quite get my head around it. The trout and the worms eat krill and the krill eat spice scraps and the spice scraps come from worms and the worms come from a bunch of trout coming together to smush moisture into a big biologically super active ball of water and dead trout? Or something? Help
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Tree Bucket posted:I've read the sand worm biology section of the Dune appendix a dozen times and still can't quite get my head around it. The trout and the worms eat krill and the krill eat spice scraps and the spice scraps come from worms and the worms come from a bunch of trout coming together to smush moisture into a big biologically super active ball of water and dead trout? Or something? Help Smallish groups of sandtrout under certain conditions combine to make a "little maker", an infant sandworm. Big groups of sandtrout encysting a lot of water form a pre-spice mass, which eventually explodes in a rain of spice and sandtrout gore.
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dis astranagant posted:Smallish groups of sandtrout under certain conditions combine to make a "little maker", an infant sandworm. Big groups of sandtrout encysting a lot of water form a pre-spice mass, which eventually explodes in a rain of spice and sandtrout gore. Okay, that works. Why do the trout encyst water? Is it an instinctive thing to help out the makers, or because they need water....? Regardless, it is a cool and nicely alien ecosystem.
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Tree Bucket posted:Okay, that works. Why do the trout encyst water? Is it an instinctive thing to help out the makers, or because they need water....? Water is poison for the worms, so the trout ball it up and do a bunch of biochemical stuff to make it tolerable. It's also mentioned in some of Leto II's musings that sandtrout aren't native to Dune and may have even been engineered for some purpose.
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God Emperor Londo II.
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Rockopolis posted:Z'ha'dune is the homeworld of the Spice. No one leaves the same as they arrived. That last part is a major plot point in The Dosadi Experiment.
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Rockopolis posted:Z'ha'dune is the homeworld of the Spice. No one leaves the same as they arrived.
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