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Chokes McGee posted:It was neat but felt like a misstep. Xavier would not only know pretty quick what's up but could roll up (literally he's going senile in an empty water container in mexico and wolverine gives him drugs every once in a while so he can't use his powers
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Chokes McGee posted:It was neat but felt like a misstep. Xavier would not only know pretty quick what's up but could roll up (literally It's the X-Men. He's probably in loving space.
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I love this show but it could be a bit more compact and faster paced. Like in Tropic Thunder where advice is beeing given that you don't go "full retarded", this show can easily slip into too much meta.
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There is zero sense of time. It bothers me, but it's also like a dream is i guess.
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Slightly Absurd posted:Desolé can be both "desert [desolation]" or "sorry. [Je suis desolé]" I first heard "le desolé" as "Lake de Soleil" and was, "Oh, that's why all the water in the valley dried up and it turned into a desert".  Jerusalem posted:Not enough Aubrey Plaza though I wish they'd find more use for the inquisitor guy. He's such a great character and every time he gets an interrogation scene is just marvellous.
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/\ I like that they fleshed him out from more than just a bad guy chasing everyone in Season 1. He could have been lying, but he still got Syd to tell him something with a cute story. "C'mon, just girl-talk."  Speaking of S1, did they explain who the guy throwing boulders and people around during David's escape was? Or was David doing it subconsciously with another personality? I don't remember seeing that guy later on. The cave analogy wasn't bad, just off. They should have switched distracted people on their cell phones with shut-ins on their computer. Like me.
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Waffle! posted:Speaking of S1, did they explain who the guy throwing boulders and people around during David's escape was? Or was David doing it subconsciously with another personality? I don't remember seeing that guy later on. Rocksicles posted:There is zero sense of time. It bothers me, but it's also like a dream is i guess.
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I don't think it's all a dream, but I think reality is behaving in dream-like ways as a consequence of David's powers. The Shadow King's made several comments that almost directly point this out, assuming you trust his assessment.
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Chokes McGee posted:It was neat but felt like a misstep. Xavier would not only know pretty quick what's up but could roll up (literally I think this is pretty crucial thing. I mean not only where is Xavier. Where is everyone. There's almost no other X-Men characters. It's always played with the idea that this is all in David's head. With straight up inconsistencies in the reality portrayed, and the fact almost every single character is a reflection of David in some way. I do feel like the show is ultimately heading toward a "it was all a dream" but that won't be the point. The point will be "it's all in David's head but despite that these people matter" That will be the attempted twist, not the level to which it is false, but the level to which we accept the dream to be real. Super embarrassing story time. I once had a dream where I was some space trader, I'd visit planets as I stopped over to offload goods. One time I met an old lady carrying groceries, we exchanged hellos and went on our way. Decades later, in a city now grown and changed, virtually indistinguishable, I see her again. Even older, and I say hello. She remembered who I was, and I woke up tears streaming down my face that she remembered me, that I made a passing impact on a stranger. The emotion there was real, I felt it then and still kind of do. Even though it was all as false as could be, it barely makes any sense at all, and is just strange and bizarre but there is still some small piece of it that survived the illusion. JossiRossi fucked around with this message at 22:45 on May 28, 2018 |
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JossiRossi posted:I think this is pretty crucial thing. I mean not only where is Xavier. Where is everyone. There's almost no other X-Men characters. It's always played with the idea that this is all in David's head. With straight up inconsistencies in the reality portrayed, and the fact almost every single character is a reflection of David in some way. I do feel like the show is ultimately heading toward a "it was all a dream" but that won't be the point. The point will be "it's all in David's head but despite that these people matter" That will be the attempted twist, not the level to which it is false, but the level to which we accept the dream to be real. I think (maybe its someone else) the philosopher David Chalmers says that even if we "live" in a simulation that our feelings and attachments are all still legitimate. They wouldn't suddenly become fake with the introduction of new information.
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dogboy posted:I love this show but it could be a bit more compact and faster paced. Like in Tropic Thunder where advice is beeing given that you don't go "full retarded", this show can easily slip into too much meta. I really don't get this complaint (not you specifically, but in general). I mean, what you're criticizing ... that's the show. At its core, plotwise it's a pretty straightforward super hero tale that really isn't that interesting or unique from a story perspective. What makes the show good is how it goes about its business. It's the most unique presentation of a story in all tv. It's equivalent to saying "2001, well it's a decent movie, but they coulda trimmed the ape bit and the trippy part, tightened the slow bits up and bring it in at a brisk 82 minutes." Sure, they could have, but that would be a different movie and one that was forgotten about 2 weeks after it was released. e.e. cummings' poem 'loneliness' could be rewritten to a single line but it would destroy what the poem is. To quote an old and tired trope: The media *is* the message. The way this show is filmed and edited and scored *is* what the show is about. regulargonzalez fucked around with this message at 00:26 on May 29, 2018 |
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regulargonzalez posted:I really don't get this complaint (not you specifically, but in general). I mean, what you're criticizing ... that's the show. At its core, plotwise it's a pretty straightforward super hero tale that really isn't that interesting or unique from a story perspective. What makes the show good is how it goes about its business. It's the most unique presentation of a story in all tv. It's equivalent to saying "2001, well it's a decent movie, but they coulda trimmed the ape bit and the trippy part, tightened the slow bits up and bring it in at a brisk 82 minutes." Sure, they could have, but that would be a different movie and one that was forgotten about 2 weeks after it was released. e.e. cummings' poem 'loneliness' could be rewritten to a single line but it would destroy what the poem is. Although I was sceptical, I did spontaneous joy dances when actual Fargo season 1, the TV show finally happened. And because of how good it actually was, not because it just happened. Season 2 was very good, too. As was Legion season 1. Now I am starting to skip stuff in season 2, although I'd still rate it as one of my current top 3 TV shows. The music is a blast and is a core point of what appeals to me about this show. If it gets too weird and I lack a library of reference? No good music? Skip the bleh bleh bleh and just catch up about the alleged meta plot points on the internet. I guess I am an oaf 
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night slime posted:I think (maybe its someone else) the philosopher David Chalmers says that even if we "live" in a simulation that our feelings and attachments are all still legitimate. They wouldn't suddenly become fake with the introduction of new information. Zizek, via Lacan, makes the inverse point quite a bit: “I would like to use the wonderful model of Lacan. Let’s say that you are married and you are pathologically jealous, thinking that your wife is sleeping around with other men. And let’s say that you are totally right, she is cheating. Lacan says that your jealousy is still pathological. Even if everything is true it is pathological, because what makes it pathological is not the fact that is it true or not true, but why you invest so much in it—what needs does it fulfill? “
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Someone asked a few pages ago, yes the Mi-Go monks are a Lovecraft reference.
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night slime posted:I think (maybe its someone else) the philosopher David Chalmers says that even if we "live" in a simulation that our feelings and attachments are all still legitimate. They wouldn't suddenly become fake with the introduction of new information. Cogito ergo sum, but with feels.
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Dreadwroth posted:Someone asked a few pages ago, yes the Mi-Go monks are a Lovecraft reference. I wonder if they put brains in jars.
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Codependent Poster posted:I really like Cary and Kerry. I was really happy to find out Kerry is actually played by a First Nations actor.
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twistedmentat posted:I was really happy to find out Kerry is actually played by a First Nations actor. she's extremely good and has the best odd couple chemistry with bill irwin, who is also a delight
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I really hope Melanie is playing a con because it would suck if she was just another victim of Farouk's manipulation, or just a prop in Oliver's plan to get free - her reaction to "tag along" was just right so it struck me as disappointing that she ended up basically being (or at least appearing to be) just another puzzle piece.AnEdgelord posted:I realized something recently. Hire Bryan Fuller but just don't tell him that Noah Hawley is shadowing him and ready to step into his place the moment the relationship with the studio goes sour.
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dogboy posted:I love this show but it could be a bit more compact and faster paced. Like in Tropic Thunder where advice is beeing given that you don't go "full retarded", this show can easily slip into too much meta. The show is asking that it's viewers have a lot of faith in it going somewhere, yes. I've read the original material it's based on and can see why some people have these issues with it but i think you'll change your mind with the finale. Keep watching!
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Codependent Poster posted:I really like Cary and Kerry. I like that Kerry has found something she likes that doesn't involve punching people.
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Oasx posted:I like that Kerry has found something she likes that doesn't involve punching people. which is? I might have missed that scene. Is it cleaving people with katanas?
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double nine posted:which is? I might have missed that scene. Is it cleaving people with katanas? Cream soda. And yeah, that scene where she promised to murder Death before letting him/her get Cary was awesome. It was nice to see Melanie get some extended screen time after being a nonentity for most of the season. I wonder if she's part of Oliver's "1 + 1 < 2" threat to Farouk a few episodes earlier?
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Am I nuts or was the music over the final scenes and credits a classical cover of She's So Heavy?
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Jerusalem posted:I really hope Melanie is playing a con because it would suck if she was just another victim of Farouk's manipulation, or just a prop in Oliver's plan to get free - her reaction to "tag along" was just right so it struck me as disappointing that she ended up basically being (or at least appearing to be) just another puzzle piece. So Oliver thinks Melanie's on their side, but it's not 100% clear that anyone's falling for it or that she'll be effective. Didn't she claim David was coming alone? David setting up the board might have been aware of her status and intentionally hid facets of the plan from her.
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JawnV6 posted:So Oliver thinks Melanie's on their side, but it's not 100% clear that anyone's falling for it or that she'll be effective. Didn't she claim David was coming alone? David setting up the board might have been aware of her status and intentionally hid facets of the plan from her. david setting up the board and repeatedly eating/shredding/burning the Shadow King flag was surprisingly entertaining. e: waitasec, there was no john hamm scene. 
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Jerusalem posted:Hire Bryan Fuller but just don't tell him that Noah Hawley is shadowing him and ready to step into his place the moment the relationship with the studio goes sour.
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glad she is dead posted:Am I nuts or was the music over the final scenes and credits a classical cover of She's So Heavy? Definitely sounds like it.
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Waffle! posted:Cheers to everyone that wanted to see more Lenny hope she can get whatever ridiculous sniper scenario David has planned over with soon, she's got a lot of caligula poo poo left to take care of
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JawnV6 posted:So Oliver thinks Melanie's on their side, but it's not 100% clear that anyone's falling for it or that she'll be effective. Didn't she claim David was coming alone? David setting up the board might have been aware of her status and intentionally hid facets of the plan from her. He probably wasn't directly aware, but it's part of his plan. The first thing he said to himself was that he couldn't just straight up tell them what's up or Farouk would read their minds. I do like how everyone else is paranoid as poo poo and Cary/Kerry just went "I'm sure he knows what he's doing v  v" They're really the only two characters on the show that have any sense of normalcy. Cary's smart enough to not get affected by people's dumb poo poo and Kerry only understands punching and punch based deratives.
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MOVIE MAJICK posted:Who was the woman Lenny was talking to? Amy. The person whose body she is occupying.
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