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MechanicalTomPetty posted:I had to stop reading Transmetropolitan for a while after Trump got elected, that poo poo started hitting really close to home. It's a drat good series though and I'd love to see an adaptation of it someday. Vanderdeath posted:I don't think an adaptation of Transmetropolitan would work in this current political climate in America precisely because The Smiler got elected. I had to put it down during my re-read for the same reasons. Smiler is a caricature of Blair and Clinton which makes this kind of sad
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I feel like this announcement was already made multiple times but whatever (I guess this is the official one): https://www.polygon.com/2018/5/28/17403266/zack-snyder-the-fountainhead-adaptation-ayn-rand quote:Zack Snyder has talked about working on an adaptation of Ayn Rand’s The Fountainhead since 2016, but now the director is saying this project will be his next film. Looking "forward" to the inevitable slo-mo rape scene. 
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May 28, 2018 23:40
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A.I. Borgland Corp posted:I saw Solo, I thought it was fine. The third act dragged and tried to introduce too many things and twists, Clarke was a nothing character, but pretty fun besides that. The biggest problem was this kid next to be squirming the whole time climbing on his mom and the metal railing in front of us. If I were that kid's father I would have... done nothing. Cause I am that kid's father.
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May 28, 2018 23:43
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FlamingLiberal posted:I also got back from seeing it, and it was ok, but I have no clue what they are thinking with that certain sequel bait near the end. 
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May 28, 2018 23:47
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FlamingLiberal posted:I also got back from seeing it, and it was ok, but I have no clue what they are thinking with that certain sequel bait near the end. Apparently the guy popped up seasons ago in the Rebels show so they could just continue that over there. Or more likely you know that Lando movie they're talking about? Right there's your sequel.
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May 28, 2018 23:53
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Len posted:Apparently the guy popped up seasons ago in the Rebels show so they could just continue that over there. He died in Rebels, which is now in its final season.
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May 29, 2018 00:09
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CelticPredator posted:That kid probably had more fun dicking around on that rail than he did watching Solo. He said Chewbacca is his favorite bad guy
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May 29, 2018 00:10
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The MSJ posted:He died in Rebels, which is now in its final season. So it's not a sequel hook at all then and we know the rest of his story. So it's a thing for kids to go "oh dad/mom I know him!" And for adults to go "wtf he died back in episode 1! This movie is poo poo."
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May 29, 2018 00:12
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Len posted:So it's not a sequel hook at all then and we know the rest of his story. So it's a thing for kids to go "oh dad/mom I know him!" And for adults to go "wtf he died back in episode 1! This movie is poo poo." It was the Star Wars version of the Howard The Duck post credits scene from GOTG1.
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May 29, 2018 00:24
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A.I. Borgland Corp posted:He said Chewbacca is his favorite bad guy So when is he going to start writing thinkpieces for the AV Club?
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May 29, 2018 01:00
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The MSJ posted:He died in Rebels, which is now in its final season. The show ended several weeks ago. The scene in question is absolutely a hook. Whether it's Solo part 2 or Darth Maul the movie or Obi-Wan Kenobi the movie or Boba Fett the movie. It could fit into any of those.
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May 29, 2018 01:41
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AceOfFlames posted:I feel like this announcement was already made multiple times but whatever (I guess this is the official one): Zack Snyder is smarter than to take all of that dumb Randian poo poo verbatim.
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May 29, 2018 02:02
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Waiting to see Objectivists and libertarians livid that Snyder ruins their precious scripture.
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May 29, 2018 02:05
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I've never read the book but going by the plot synopsis on Wikipedia I can't help but wonder if Snyder sees a bit of himself in the books protagonist (replace "awesome skyscrapers" with "DC Cinematic Universe").
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May 29, 2018 02:26
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MechanicalTomPetty posted:I've never read the book but going by the plot synopsis on Wikipedia I can't help but wonder if Snyder sees a bit of himself in the books protagonist (replace "awesome skyscrapers" with "DC Cinematic Universe"). He absolutely does and it's what drew him to wanting to adapt it at all. You can google any of the articles talking about it from IIRC 2016 and see a quote from him to that effect.
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May 29, 2018 02:46
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DeimosRising posted:Smiler is a caricature of Blair and Clinton which makes this kind of sad Yeah, The Smiler is awful, but he's not awful in a Trumpish way. In modern terms, Romney (or Obama, depending on how charitable you feel) was much closer to a Smiler analogue. In Transmet terms, Trump is like that Heller guy who holds the rally and yells about immigrants making GBS threads in American wombs.
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May 29, 2018 03:02
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The MSJ posted:Waiting to see Objectivists and libertarians livid that Snyder ruins their precious scripture. This might be a "Truffaut was right" situation.
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May 29, 2018 03:02
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there's a really easy situation to modernize The Fountainhead and rob it of the worst of it's objectivist heart: set it modern day New York, turn the New York Banner into a cross between the Post and Breitbart, and turn its critic/villain into an objectivist. Have Roark use his "natural talent" and superiority not just for his own benefit but for the greater benefit of society, and switch the final two buildings; the building Roark ultimately blows up because his design was changed could be a Trump Tower-esque monument to grotesque capitalism and the "monument to human achievement," the Wynand Building, could be a public housing project. The idea of a "super man" using his inherent superiority for the public good despite critical parts of society grandstanding about whether or not it's right/good sounds awful familiar. You could also totally piss everyone off by turning Howard Roark into a woman who also has to contend with the very un-objectivist (but very Randian) sexism that is inherent in industries that should supposedly be a meritocracy, and completely remove the weird psychosexual relationship between Roark, Dominique and the other men.
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May 29, 2018 05:54
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Schwarzwald posted:This might be a "Truffaut was right" situation. can you elaborate on what this means for a curious phillistine who doesn't want to dive into truffaut's beliefs to find out or w/e
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May 29, 2018 06:49
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I would recommend About Buildings & Cities' two episodes (#13 and #14) on the Fountainhead if anyone wants to hear two architects go through the book and talk about how architecture is represented in the story, as well as talking about the book's politics in general. It's an interesting angle to approach it from.
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May 29, 2018 07:16
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basic hitler posted:can you elaborate on what this means for a curious phillistine who doesn't want to dive into truffaut's beliefs to find out or w/e I assume Schwarzwald is referring to Truffaut's famous statement that "there's no such thing as an anti-war movie", because any visual depiction of combat will inevitably end up glorifying it. I'm not sure how this relates to The Fountainhead though, unless you want to argue that there's no way to satirise Objectivism without simultaneously putting it on a pedestal.
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May 29, 2018 11:42
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So about the rape in Fountainhead, I've never read it. Is it like something in the 1950s wouldn't have been considered rape but by any reasonable modern standard is super obviously rape? Or is it completely unambiguous ending with "I, Ayn Rand, am a big fan of rape" Cause I'd believe you either way
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May 29, 2018 12:07
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A.I. Borgland Corp posted:So about the rape in Fountainhead, I've never read it. Is it like something in the 1950s wouldn't have been considered rape but by any reasonable modern standard is super obviously rape? Let me put it this way: https://www.alternet.org/books/how-ayn-rand-became-big-admirer-serial-killer
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May 29, 2018 12:17
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DC Murderverse posted:Zack Snyder is smarter than to take all of that dumb Randian poo poo verbatim. I guarantee you that he is not.
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May 29, 2018 13:17
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sector_corrector posted:I guarantee you that he is not. Yeah maybe at some point he was and I like his stuff but willingly taking on The Fountainhead after 300/etc. were taken as 100% straight (and loved for it) is pretty harmful and just makes him seem like a dumbass.
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May 29, 2018 13:19
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One of the only funny or interesting things about this forum is that a guy who writes like a flunking MFA student at a second tier state school convinced you all that Zach Snyder was some sort of left wing visionary.
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May 29, 2018 13:24
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I view him as apolitical. People have just broken their brains and"thing I like" has to be "in my political side" and if thing is "thing I don't like" the person who made it is obviously a fascist.
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May 29, 2018 13:33
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A.I. Borgland Corp posted:I view him as apolitical. You are incredibly loving stupid.
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May 29, 2018 13:40
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Nah. Maybe you should develop the ability to not be so emotionally invested in a filmmaker you have to make them either a villain or hero.
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May 29, 2018 13:43
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A.I. Borgland Corp posted:I view him as apolitical. As apolitical as the South Park guys maybe.
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May 29, 2018 13:46
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I thought Michael Bay was our resident social critic that everyone else takes completely seriously.
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May 29, 2018 13:47
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Samuel Clemens posted:I thought Michael Bay was our resident social critic that everyone else takes completely seriously. Michael Bay has two beliefs: the military looks cool and being sweaty looks cool.
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May 29, 2018 13:48
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Making a film out of the fountainhead in this day and age seems like a super apolitical and neutral directorial move from noted good person Zach Snyder.
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May 29, 2018 13:58
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Also he's an idiot because they already made a movie about The Fountainhead called Dirty Dancing and it will always be a better take than whatever Snyder shits out.
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May 29, 2018 14:00
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Aren't passion projects usually allowed for directors who are at the top of their game? Not someone who had their last movie torn in half and redone by a replacement?
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May 29, 2018 14:10
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Maybe giving him his project is cheaper than buying out his contract
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May 29, 2018 14:24
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LIVE AMMO ROLEPLAY posted:Aren't passion projects usually allowed for directors who are at the top of their game? Not someone who had their last movie torn in half and redone by a replacement? IIRC from an interview a couple of years ago someone at WB brought it up with him first so it might be the pet project of some WB higher up.
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May 29, 2018 14:54
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I'm pretty sure WB owns the rights.
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May 29, 2018 14:58
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A.I. Borgland Corp posted:So about the rape in Fountainhead, I've never read it. Is it like something in the 1950s wouldn't have been considered rape but by any reasonable modern standard is super obviously rape? I read it back in highschool, but I'm pretty sure it was the protagonist coming in and forcing himself on her in a way she doesn't consciously want and resists in the moment, but then afterwards becomes the love interest. e: yeah looking up quotes she violently resists him
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A.I. Borgland Corp posted:Maybe giving him his project is cheaper than buying out his contract I wish it and his career all the success of the Atlas Shrugged trilogy
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