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Ghost Leviathan posted:It would make sense if replicators produced a meal based on a template so it's exactly the same every time, which is nice and reliable but gets old after a while. This is exactly what it is going by the last season of TNG and some early episodes of DS9. Replicator food tastes as good as the real thing but on a textbook "this is the real thing" level, you still need an individual's touch in there to fine tune it to nail really specific regional differences or some weird way you personally always cook a thing or whatever because recipes are always going to be subjective to the individual. In DS9 there's a lot of mention of and still a huge amount of trade of actual ingredients, sauces, seasonings, etc. stuff that a replicator won't quite nail the effects of when it's cooked into something over time. There's a huge amount of agriculture in Star Trek, with huge industrial use replicators of which there's like maybe twelve on a planet total that are used just to create the tools and infrastructure to farm as efficiently as possible, which leads to the other thing we learn early on in DS9 which is that good replicators are a huge deal and super expensive, the Federation having the good poo poo-caliber replicators on all their stuff is a huge luxury.
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ryonguy posted:Okay so B5 is thinly veiled Star Trek fanfiction, got it. literally never seen either
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May 28, 2018 23:34
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Babylon 5 didn't invent space stations or having spiritual themes in scifi
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Dr. Video Games 0081 posted:Babylon 5 didn't invent space stations or having spiritual themes in scifi No that was the Battlestar Galactica miniseries
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Dr. Video Games 0081 posted:Babylon 5 didn't invent space stations or having spiritual themes in scifi Wonder what the overlap of B5 and Firefly fans is in terms of mediocre sci-fi series nobody gave a poo poo about except  weirdos.
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I hate Firefly but love caring about Babylon 5 too much and I stand by that although obviously the report was a joke
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Babylon 5 is thinly veiled Lord of the Rings fanfiction
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Also, if there's no people cooking, variants and new dishes aren't going to be discovered. And with the amount of fusing cultures going on in the Federation, there's going to be a lot of experimenting to do. I'd think that alone would make restaurants popular.
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It's why DS9 station has the best cuisine. Where else can you get a root beer float-gagh martini with raktajino chaser.
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So why didn't the crew of Voyager not eat literal-poison instead of what that... man served?
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That man was Neelix. You know. The gremlin looking fucker that was grooming the 2 year old to be his girlfriend.
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"Neelix can't cook for humans" was kind of a running gag in the series.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:"Neelix can't cook for humans" was kind of a running gag in the series. But how well could he cook humans?
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winterwerefox posted:That man was Neelix. You know. The gremlin looking fucker that was grooming the 2 year old to be his girlfriend. So a fan got to be on the show?
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LIVE AMMO ROLEPLAY posted:So a fan got to be on the show? Yes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kmut6FJ1d4M
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winterwerefox posted:That man was Neelix. You know. The gremlin looking fucker that was grooming the 2 year old to be his girlfriend. monsieur pedo dicknose
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Oh god, as my brother reminded me, Neelix then started hanging out with Naomi Wildman after Kess left the show. Another 'They age faster, I guess' species? She was born on the ship.
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I think Firefly was good… for the first season of a Sci-fi show on network television at the turn of the century.
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Firefly was pretty much a sci-fi Libertarian self-own.
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fruit on the bottom posted:I think Firefly was good… for the first season of a Sci-fi show on network television at the turn of the century.  IIRC, didn't Firefly get hosed up much like the Clerks cartoon, in that the network aired episodes out of their intended order? I dug both those shows, albeit watching them on dvd in the proper order. Sucks that they both didn't get a chance for more episodes because the narrative and/or in-jokes just fell flat because some network chucklefuck screwed with the airing, and casual viewers just peaced out when their initial eps didn't make a lick of sense and ratings tanked.
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The network had the train job episode air first and I think it's better than the normal pilot. It was designed to introduce the characters as well.
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Sir Lemming posted:Of course, ultimately the real answer to "what's the deal with Quark's" is they wanted to have an old West saloon guy because it was a frontier outpost in space. when i first watched deadwood i felt like al swearengen was a very familiar character, like i knew him already. i just realized it's because he's quark only with massive, massive balls
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The same thing happened with the pretty decent Almost Human as well. Which hurt it pretty bad, since the most fun part of the show was the growing buddy-cop dynamic between Urban and Ealy. So you'd have one episode fairly early on where they're already palling around like old friends, and then the very next one they're back to a pretty cold "barely even know this guy" state, and then bouncing back and forth between those.
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Mu Zeta posted:The network had the train job episode air first and I think it's better than the normal pilot. It was designed to introduce the characters as well.  Apparently because Fox didn't want to air the two hour pilot, they were forced to write the script for the Train Job as a second pilot over a weekend. I still think Firefly didn't age well for the most part
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Gatekeeper posted:when i first watched deadwood i felt like al swearengen was a very familiar character, like i knew him already. i just realized it's because he's quark only with massive, massive balls Except Quark was a decent person deep down inside. Very deep, but it's there.
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Stairs posted:Except Quark was a decent person deep down inside. He ended up liking rootbeer afterall, he can't be that bad.
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BgRdMchne posted:Janeway murdering Tuvix didn’t age well. I mean, in the sense that it was just as terrible at the time it sort if did
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Araenna posted:Also, if there's no people cooking, variants and new dishes aren't going to be discovered. And with the amount of fusing cultures going on in the Federation, there's going to be a lot of experimenting to do. I'd think that alone would make restaurants popular. Hell, as said they demonstrate this in the very series with grandpa Sisko trying Ferengi-Cajun fusion cooking. And Jake's favourite breakfast combines Earth, Bajoran and Klingon food and drink. A lot of DS9's best bits are showing how the ordinary people in the space future live. Hell, Ferengi are deliberately played as closer to 20th century Earth culture, they even have popular franchises with merchandise.
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May 29, 2018 13:23
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BgRdMchne posted:Janeway murdering Tuvix didn’t age well. Nor did Tuvix.
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The episode of Frasier where Niles plays a video game just came to mind, and it is hilarious, remarably so given how most TV shows portrayed video games, and not just because games have changed since the 80s. (the main issue being how many writers never realised that) Any other cases where depictions of video games in a show HAVE aged well, or at least make sense taken as a period piece?
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Are TV shows still putting atari sound effects in anytime a character plays a video game
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Ghost Leviathan posted:The episode of Frasier where Niles plays a video game just came to mind, and it is hilarious, remarably so given how most TV shows portrayed video games, and not just because games have changed since the 80s. (the main issue being how many writers never realised that) Any other cases where depictions of video games in a show HAVE aged well, or at least make sense taken as a period piece? There were quite a few times in House MD where video games being played realistically. Then in one of the later seasons there was a hilariously dumb bad CGI section that was supposed to be a VR game, and they used clips from that to represent all video games in the universe from that point on (it appeared as a lightgun game and played with a regular controller). There was a scene where Foreman and Taub are playing a game, and it's really obvious which of the actors has actually played video games (Omar Epps) because he's actually moving the sticks and pulling triggers/pushing buttons like you would in an FPS, and presses the Start button when the character wants to pause the game. Meanwhile Taub is just wildly mashing buttons.
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There's more movies and shows that represent video games realistically now that they can get paid to do it. I'd bet tons of Sony movies do it.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:The episode of Frasier where Niles plays a video game just came to mind, and it is hilarious, remarably so given how most TV shows portrayed video games, and not just because games have changed since the 80s. (the main issue being how many writers never realised that) Any other cases where depictions of video games in a show HAVE aged well, or at least make sense taken as a period piece? Spaced. I don't know if Jessica Stevenson is a huge nerd but Simon Pegg sure is.
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Quote-Unquote posted:There were quite a few times in House MD where video games being played realistically. Then in one of the later seasons there was a hilariously dumb bad CGI section that was supposed to be a VR game, and they used clips from that to represent all video games in the universe from that point on (it appeared as a lightgun game and played with a regular controller). Yeah, I’ve been watching House again since it’s on amazon prime and it’s great, they use poo poo like Metroid Fusion on GBA while he’s hiding from clinic duty and whatnot. The thing that’s aged badly for me is that CPR and ACLS (the poo poo you do for cardiac arrests) has changed since 2004, so I keep wanting to be like “WRONG!” even though it was accurate at the time.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Spaced. I don't know if Jessica Stevenson is a huge nerd but Simon Pegg sure is. They talk about this on the commentary, in fact. Edgar Wright hates seeing games fake-played in media.
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Wasn't it an issue in Spaced too, that they kept focusing on the videogame and missing their cues?
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Samuringa posted:Wasn't it an issue in Spaced too, that they kept focusing on the videogame and missing their cues? Yes, they had to fake play Resident Evil 2 (I think) for one scene because they kept concentrating on that instead of the acting
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Mu Zeta posted:The network had the train job episode air first and I think it's better than the normal pilot. It was designed to introduce the characters as well. The one good decision that Fox made with Firefly. I'm a moderate Firefly apologist, but drat is the pilot a slog compared to The Train Job.
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