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I've heard of weddings like that where the wedding is huge and extravagant but each guest is more or less kicking in a hundred bucks as a gift.
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Carl Killer Miller posted:it hasn't happened yet-coming up in August. Part of their way of justifying the insane cost is that it's a traditional Indian wedding. Did they went crazy on the traditional gold jewelry as well? Or was it more toned down, since Americanised? The ultra-traditional gold jewelry by the Chinese / Indians is really ugly in my view. Honestly, no class at all.
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May 29, 2018 09:03
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Hoooly poo poo, are you parents paying for the whole thing? 
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May 29, 2018 10:06
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Carl Killer Miller posted:a traditional Indian wedding. I come from a very modest, blue-collar town. I remember when the Indian girl in my class was getting married (at 16 or 17, no less) and she showed me the jewelry that each of the bridesmaids were wearing. Apparently, they get to keep it as their gift for being in the wedding. I'm sure it was at least a 500k affair, and this was 20 years ago. It blew my mind then, and feels only more insane the older I get.
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May 29, 2018 14:19
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Based on what I've heard (wife works in construction, lotta italian/portugese coworkers talking about weddings) you pay out the nose for the wedding and generally expect to make a large portion of it back. White people dropping 250k on a wedding is BWM. Cultures with a heavy focus on familial obligation dropping 250k on a wedding is probably much less BWM, if not a good investment, because you're going to have a jillion guests and they're all going to bring hefty gifts. One of her coworkers was complaining because two of his cousins were getting married in the same year and he was going to have to drop a very nontrivial amount of money on wedding gifts.
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May 29, 2018 14:24
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Do they still do the dowry thing? Never really understood how it worked.
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May 29, 2018 14:26
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ChickenWing posted:Based on what I've heard (wife works in construction, lotta italian/portugese coworkers talking about weddings) you pay out the nose for the wedding and generally expect to make a large portion of it back. White people dropping 250k on a wedding is BWM. Cultures with a heavy focus on familial obligation dropping 250k on a wedding is probably much less BWM, if not a good investment, because you're going to have a jillion guests and they're all going to bring hefty gifts.
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May 29, 2018 15:00
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Panfilo posted:I've heard of weddings like that where the wedding is huge and extravagant but each guest is more or less kicking in a hundred bucks as a gift. Standard Italian wedding. e: if you’re cheap. A hundred? Common.
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May 29, 2018 15:02
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John Smith posted:Well, not that surprising for Asian weddings. My people are very bad at this as well, but at least Chinese weddings are over in 1 dinner. Indian weddings bring it up to the next level of crazy. A girlfriend brought me to the wedding between a mainland Chinese and Taiwanese couple, and you could sense a bit of animosity and one upsmanship in the parents showing their ability to spend.
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May 29, 2018 15:07
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One of my coworkers is of Nigerian descent and had a traditional wedding a few years back. There was one part where the newly-wedded couple danced while guests circled around them throwing money at them. At least a couple of guests threw hundred dollar bills. I guess some of these extravagant events can pay for themselves.
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May 29, 2018 15:11
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So wait. The parents pay for the wedding and then take the wedding gifts, ostensibly addressed to the couple, to recoup what they paid? Feel like I'm missing something here
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May 29, 2018 15:51
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Jordan7hm posted:e: if you’re cheap. A hundred? Common. Moneyball posted:A girlfriend brought me to the wedding between a mainland Chinese and Taiwanese couple, and you could sense a bit of animosity and one upsmanship in the parents showing their ability to spend. "Wah?!?!?! You are marrying that no-good Chan from Guangzhong? Those filthy mainlander dogs!!! Never!!!" AndrewP posted:So wait. The parents pay for the wedding and then take the wedding gifts, ostensibly addressed to the couple, to recoup what they paid? Feel like I'm missing something here Otherwise, you are kinda screwing over your own parents if they are fronting the money and yet you keep all the cash gifts. Of course, every family is different so every case may differ.
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May 29, 2018 16:23
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Carl Killer Miller posted:it hasn't happened yet-coming up in August. Part of their way of justifying the insane cost is that it's a traditional Indian wedding. I was dismayed, but hey, they're GWM so it was their right. I can't imagine going into debt for something like that, though. Future benefits: my daughter (who was 6 at the time of the wedding) was horrified by the whole affair and declared that if she ever gets married 1) casual dress and cheap finger foods for the wedding 2) she'll request that guests contribute to charity in lieu of gifts. Dunno if she'll still feel that way in 20 years or so, but I'm mighty touched for the time being. 
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May 29, 2018 16:54
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I’ve been told that weddings, like graduation parties, are supposed to be about transfering wealth from parents to kids via their social circles. The parents throw a party and the kids get the gifts from their parents’s friends and family in the form of a bunch of small gifts instead of a big check from their parents. Would it be more efficient to just write a check? Sure, but then it becomes so transactional.
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May 29, 2018 16:56
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The Macaroni posted:keep up with the wedding of another Indian family in the area, but without spending quite as much. e: A buddy of mine married an Indian chick. He showed up at one wedding event riding an elephant.
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May 29, 2018 17:02
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BigDave posted:Do they still do the dowry thing? Never really understood how it worked. It's technically been illegal since the 1960s, but enforcement is basically non-existent.
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May 29, 2018 17:51
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John Smith posted:Otherwise, you are kinda screwing over your own parents if they are fronting the money and yet you keep all the cash gifts. Of course, every family is different so every case may differ. Uh no thanks, mom and dad. Give me a loan for my big dumb BWM wedding, or give me a gift, or give me nothing at all; whatevs. What I don't need is the stress and complication of some weird all-strings-attached mob-loan masquerading as a gift.
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May 29, 2018 18:01
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I think the question on all our minds today is "is more than $10,000 too much to spend on a wedding?"
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May 29, 2018 18:03
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Moneyball posted:I think the question on all our minds today is "is more than $10,000 too much to spend on a wedding?" You've heard of a shotgun wedding? Well, let me give you my elevator pitch for something I like to call the "guillotine wedding."
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May 29, 2018 18:10
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Trustworthy posted:You've heard of a shotgun wedding? Well, let me give you my elevator pitch for something I like to call the "guillotine wedding." A guillotine wedding without at least three deaths is considered a dull affair.
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May 29, 2018 18:13
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Moneyball posted:I think the question on all our minds today is "is more than $10,000 too much to spend on a wedding?" $10,000? Ok. $10,001? Guillotine.
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May 29, 2018 18:15
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Higgy posted:$10,000? Ok. $10,000.50?
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May 29, 2018 18:17
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I don't think the classification of "middle class" is accurate for people that can spend a quarter mil on a wedding.
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May 29, 2018 18:23
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John Smith posted:Romeo and Juliet in real life. The Korean sisters I know have a mother who has forbidden them from dating non-Korean men, so I assume a real Chinese person dating a Maoist fake Chinese man would be even worse.
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May 29, 2018 18:33
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This guy getting hosed brings warmth to my heart. House flipping unless you are a professional is a great way to lose your shirt. It's not loving 2006 any more. poo poo always goes wrong with home repair. I just had replacing a simple closet door take 8 hours instead of 20 minutes because of terrible luck/inexperience, god knows what sort of trouble I'd get into if I decided to install a whole new wing on a house.
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May 29, 2018 18:39
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John Smith posted:Well, not that surprising for Asian weddings. My people are very bad at this as well, but at least Chinese weddings are over in 1 dinner. Indian weddings bring it up to the next level of crazy. It's golded out. Knowing my parents, the likelihood of the bridesmaids keeping any of the jewelry is pretty much zero but there's a ridiculous amount of it involved. My mom showed me her nosepiece, which has to weigh a pound in gold and jewels. GWM: Rob an Indian wedding? My people are generally not pro-gun. I'm also not sure if this is GWM or BWM: https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/Households-hold-950bn-gold-in-India/articleshow/10987660.cms tl;dr: Indian housewives own ~11% of the world's gold.
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May 29, 2018 18:50
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bob dobbs is dead posted:$10,000.50? Gray area, but you're on notice mister bob dobbs is dead
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May 29, 2018 18:56
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It should come to no surprise that one side effect of these extravagant Indian /Chinese /Mexican weddings is that they support a whole cottage industry of caterers, photographers, party supply renters, seamstresses, etc. You see people tend to veer toward people in their community/culture for these tasks, so word of mouth becomes a huge asset for them (and doing a lovely job can be a career ender). If you think huge weddings can be potentially BWM, you should see what people spend on funerals in these cultures!
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May 29, 2018 18:57
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Carl Killer Miller posted:It's golded out. Knowing my parents, the likelihood of the bridesmaids keeping any of the jewelry is pretty much zero but there's a ridiculous amount of it involved. My mom showed me her nosepiece, which has to weigh a pound in gold and jewels. Will the guests at least get to take the centerpieces home with them? It's a tradition in my wife's family after weddings, which makes sense given that flowers don't last forever and saves the host the hassle of getting rid of stuff.
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May 29, 2018 19:00
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Trustworthy posted:Uh no thanks, mom and dad. Give me a loan for my big dumb BWM wedding, or give me a gift, or give me nothing at all; whatevs. What I don't need is the stress and complication of some weird all-strings-attached mob-loan masquerading as a gift. How can something be complicated if it involves you doing nothing? And in any case, you can always turn it down. Every man a free man in America and all that, you know. 22 Eargesplitten posted:The Korean sisters I know have a mother who has forbidden them from dating non-Korean men, so I assume a real Chinese person dating a Maoist fake Chinese man would be even worse. Carl Killer Miller posted:It's golded out. Knowing my parents, the likelihood of the bridesmaids keeping any of the jewelry is pretty much zero but there's a ridiculous amount of it involved. My mom showed me her nosepiece, which has to weigh a pound in gold and jewels.
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May 29, 2018 19:06
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Panfilo posted:It should come to no surprise that one side effect of these extravagant Indian /Chinese /Mexican weddings is that they support a whole cottage industry of caterers, photographers, party supply renters, seamstresses, etc. You see people tend to veer toward people in their community/culture for these tasks, so word of mouth becomes a huge asset for them (and doing a lovely job can be a career ender). If you are a prominent official or from a wealthy family, I can only imagine the extent it goes to. A large channel for corruption in China, I imagine. “Sorry for your loss, Mr. Governor. Here is a little gesture, as per our cultural traditions” [Slips him 10k in cash] Protip: We Chinese don't believe in the saying that you can't bring it with you. We bring our cash to the afterlife by burning (fake) paper money so that it joins us in the afterlife. The modern version even involves burning fake credit cards. I remember seeing on social media some creative fellow burning a fake bank building. Lol, that is creative thinking right there. Why just bring your bank money or bank credit card when you can bring the whole loving bank with you? Panfilo posted:Will the guests at least get to take the centerpieces home with them? It's a tradition in my wife's family after weddings, which makes sense given that flowers don't last forever and saves the host the hassle of getting rid of stuff.
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May 29, 2018 19:20
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John Smith posted:Holy poo poo, yea. It is quite typical for the Chinese to throw an elaborate wake lasting multiple days. Once again, being the mercenary money-grubbing people that we are, money features heavily. You are supposed to give a cash gift as a gesture of your condolences (I am not sure if this is true for every single Chinese group though). It's all about that red envelope John Smith posted:Why would you want a bunch of dead flowers? Same reason people give out poinsettia plants around christmas. They look nice for a few days then you toss them.
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May 29, 2018 19:24
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Moneyball posted:It's all about that red envelope Red for happy, White for death. It is extremely important that the colour is exactly correct. Even for the money-grubbing people that we are, far more offence will be created by the wrong colour than the lack of a gift. Yea... I don't get that. Same thing with the stupid decorative pillows people put at the bedhead. Why? What practical purpose does it serve? I can proudly say that the Chinese are a extremely practical people. All about the money. John Smith fucked around with this message at 19:37 on May 29, 2018 |
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May 29, 2018 19:34
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https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/st...%3D1941%23pti20
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May 29, 2018 19:43
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Lol. Please don't make me look up what all those people did.
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May 29, 2018 19:45
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:Lol. Please don't make me look up what all those people did. Roseanne got her extremely popular show canceled this morning after a racist tweet. Talk about BWM
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May 29, 2018 19:46
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Without making me google, what did Kevin Sorbo do? efbFuzzy Mammal posted:Lol. Please don't make me look up what all those people did.
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May 29, 2018 19:47
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Hoodwinker posted:Without making me google, what did Kevin Sorbo do? efb Sorbo just makes terrible Christian apologetic films (e.g. God's Not Dead)
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May 29, 2018 19:49
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John Smith posted:Well, White envelope to be exact. I don't think the family would like it if you congratulated them on the death of their father. I got left by one in December, on Christmas. I bought her a christmas gift and got that, so I guess that could be considered BWM
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funeral strippers
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