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little munchkin posted:not sure you can afford to cut the capsize, it's tutorable with teachings and lets you bounce stuff without requiring all the resources of the flicker loop. i've been running into a lot of pestilence decks lately where this has been relevant. If you're having time pressure problems you're never going to win against a fast Pestilence opponent.
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Somone is real mad about tron so they made themselves play a deck of 25 counterspells and 2 flurry of horns. How do you out counter that? If you draw 1 more land than you need you lose. It's really annoying how powerful 4x accumulated knowlege 4x brainstorm and all the rest counterspells is. They need to restrict things in pauper.
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May 19, 2018 21:38
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A Moose posted:Somone is real mad about tron so they made themselves play a deck of 25 counterspells and 2 flurry of horns. How do you out counter that? If you draw 1 more land than you need you lose. It's really annoying how powerful 4x accumulated knowlege 4x brainstorm and all the rest counterspells is. They need to restrict things in pauper. You accept that people can build a deck specifically to beat your deck and that they will never ever beat any other deck in the format. Alternatively you use your insane mana advantage to cast 5 spells in 1 turn and if they have 6 counters and the mana to cast them all and a followup well good for them.
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May 19, 2018 21:42
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A Moose posted:Somone is real mad about tron so they made themselves play a deck of 25 counterspells and 2 flurry of horns. How do you out counter that? If you draw 1 more land than you need you lose. It's really annoying how powerful 4x accumulated knowlege 4x brainstorm and all the rest counterspells is. They need to restrict things in pauper. Kill their four Minotaurs and mill them out?
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May 19, 2018 22:19
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A Moose posted:Somone is real mad about tron so they made themselves play a deck of 25 counterspells and 2 flurry of horns. How do you out counter that? If you draw 1 more land than you need you lose. It's really annoying how powerful 4x accumulated knowlege 4x brainstorm and all the rest counterspells is. They need to restrict things in pauper. games 2 and 3 side in all your counters and just don't cast spells past turn 5. with your mana advantage it's going to be hard for them to cast flurry, win a counter war, and also answer whatever you cast on your main phase. If you have enough lands you can also start the fight yourself with a capsize on their end step. This will also punish AK since they can't keep more than 7 counterspells. i've been running into nothing but kiln fiend and delver the last few leagues 
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May 19, 2018 23:38
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part of the problem is that I can't afford the goddamn pauper sideboard. I just get wrecked for not having more than 1 Moment's peace, no hydroblasts to counter the pyroblasts everyone sides in against me, no edicts, no knight of the whatever monarch bullshit (why is this even legal thats a draft only set???) I'd have to sell my whole deck just to get a few sideboard pieces to counter everyone else's tron hate. gently caress this is an expensive rear end format. Just lost against a pauper deck that must be worth over $100 with all the foiled out promo poo poo, it was RB control too. I got run over by Distress and Chittering Rats because I never drew counters and he countered my card draw. Is it right to side in ancient grudges JUST to counter someone's relic of progenitus?
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Don't side in Hydroblast solely to counter Pyroblast. You'll just get stuck with a bunch of Hydroblasts rotting in your hand. If Burn and Kiln Fiend weren't such horrendous matchups and if I didn't need Hydroblasts for my anti-Affinity strategy I'd have maybe 1 Hydroblast in the board and would have more Dispels. If you're getting all of your card draw Pyroblasted, you're getting unlucky to draw so little card draw. Like yeah those dorky RB control decks might have the perfect draw where they can Duress a Compulsive, counter your Oracle or Mulldrifter and you never draw another blue card and never find a Pulse or a Teachings or whatever, but you can't really build your deck to try to beat that sequence. I'll side in Ancient Grudge to eat a naked Relic if the matchup is great, like against those black-based control decks I'll side in a speculative Grudge since you don't really need Moment's Peaces and are only bringing in the one Deep Analysis. It helps hedge against Relic actually being useful for once, and if you get to kill a Relic with the opponent tapped out it's pretty awesome.
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May 20, 2018 03:56
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Well I had an extremely exciting round 1 of the challenge where I won because I'm great. Feels good.
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Update us hellsau, did you defend your title?
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always be closing posted:Update us hellsau, did you defend your title? Naw lost to Mezzel in the finals, which is okay. They're the best Mono-Blue Delver pilot and I punted game 2 (which might not actually be a punt) and kept some mediocre hands so whatever. We upgraded our modem and now I get 10mbps upload so actually wow only 2 more minutes to upload the last round, I guess I'll just post the results now. is there no easy way to link a playlist without the link getting eaten by the auto-youtuber on the forums? I made some brilliant plays this Challenge and some really dumb punts. 2nd is good enough. e: lol wow I played M2G2 very well, holy moley. Hellsau fucked around with this message at 02:37 on May 21, 2018 |
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Is that three for three on making the finals? Congrats!
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Jabor posted:Is that three for three on making the finals? Congrats! Yeah, 9/2/1/2 are my finishes. Tron is just broken.
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Hellsau posted:is there no easy way to link a playlist without the link getting eaten by the auto-youtuber on the forums? good grief 
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Soul Glo posted:good grief Oh yeah I feel really good about my wins in those first two rounds. I made some unintuitive plays that really paid off. of course i also just chose not to counter a lethal spell in a later round so...
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May 21, 2018 05:56
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Hellsau, your tron deck is in the latest CFB Pauper article: https://www.channelfireball.com/articles/know-your-enemy-tron-decks/
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teddust posted:Hellsau, your tron deck is in the latest CFB Pauper article: https://www.channelfireball.com/articles/know-your-enemy-tron-decks/ yeah just keep siding in Relic of Progenitus, I'm sure that'll stop Tron.
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May 21, 2018 15:21
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Yeah, it seems like the only thing this deck loses to is extremely bad luck and poor piloting.
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May 21, 2018 18:23
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CompeAnansi posted:Yeah, it seems like the only thing this deck loses to is extremely bad luck and poor piloting. And Burn or Kiln Fiend. And nut draws. ban tron
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May 21, 2018 18:27
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These are some good videos. Also flicker is a silly card.
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Someone playtest this poo poo for me por favor I don't have MTGO or anyone to play against in person :\ Lands 18 Mountain Instants 4 Fireblast 4 Flame Burst 4 Gut Shot or Shock 4 Incinerate 4 Kindle 4 Lightning Bolt Sorceries 4 Chain Lightning or Lava Spike Creatures 4 Bloodcrazed Neonate or Gore-House Chainwalker 4 Emberwilde Augur or Firebrand Archer 4 Mogg Fanatic or Jackal Pup 2 Reckless Reveler Sideboard SB: 4 Electrickery SB: 3 Molten Rain SB: 4 Pyroblast SB: 4 Smash to Smithereens
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Are any of the madness decks competitive? I have an r/g one that I haven't tried in leagues yet but play with friends in paper sometimes. Its like some kind of stompy burn mix. Wondering if I should just jam the full 4 rancors though. I think I have the cards for u/g madness too, at least the circular logics.
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UG is crap, they're just the worst kind of Delver deck, but RG Madness where you're basically a Wild Mongrel Stompy deck with Faithless Looting and Firey Temper/Basking Rootwalla/maybe that lovely 1R 4/1 as a sort of card advantage is fine. You get to play a lot of burn and big creatures and 4 Rancor. Multicolor aggressive decks are all kind of derpy though and playing 1 and 2 mana threats with tapped lands is just begging to get owned by Spellstutter Sprite.
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my friend, take those UG lands and sleeve up your arcane denials and jace's erasures
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My Bogles opponent just allowed me to stack 9 combat skips while they had a Relic of Progenitus in play.
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May 26, 2018 01:00
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I understand about half of what your opponent is saying there, and not the relevant half of either sentence. Edit: Play with people's deck after talking? Kill depressing opponent and something count something saw something??? suicidesteve fucked around with this message at 01:12 on May 26, 2018 |
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Welp I just went 10-0 in leagues, using up all of my luck so predictably I'll get owned in the challenge and die 0-3. I did go 2-3 3-2 in the leagues before my two trophies, somehow losing to Bogles, Elves and Boros, along with Burn twice. Those losses to Bogles and Boros were pretty tilting, not gonna lie. Gonna record my challenge run tomorrow, pray that I either get owned hard or start off 6-0.
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I'm pretty new at this whole pauper thing, but I'm pretty sure if you're playing mono-red burn, you probably shouldn't side in Stone Rains against Tron and waste 3 whole mana having your spell Condescended... I only won game 1 because I got super lucky to Crop Rotation a land into the yard, Mystical Teachings both of my Pulses, Crack a map for my Remote Isle, and then topdeck 2 Mnemonic Walls in a row. That guy must have been tilted as gently caress
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A Moose posted:I'm pretty new at this whole pauper thing, but I'm pretty sure if you're playing mono-red burn, you probably shouldn't side in Stone Rains against Tron and waste 3 whole mana having your spell Condescended... I only won game 1 because I got super lucky to Crop Rotation a land into the yard, Mystical Teachings both of my Pulses, Crack a map for my Remote Isle, and then topdeck 2 Mnemonic Walls in a row. That guy must have been tilted as gently caress Molten Rain is a way to steal games you're already going to win. It's just like the creatures though, where it's a truly atrocious topdeck once the opponent can interact with it in any way - Crop Rotation, Flicker, a counterspell, ignoring it and just taking two and Pulsing their way back to Tron, etc. It's especially horrendous in that bad Lavarunner version of Burn because it tricks Burn players into playing their cycle lands to try to hit three mana, and blowing out their three mana play can turn around a game really quickly.
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on the other hand, you gotta replace searing blazes with something, and your only other option is usually smash to smithereens
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little munchkin posted:on the other hand, you gotta replace searing blazes with something, and your only other option is usually smash to smithereens I don't think you do. Tron is still going to have the dorky card draw creatures for you to target.
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Jabor posted:I don't think you do. Tron is still going to have the dorky card draw creatures for you to target. it's a conditional card. the floor is a complete blank and the ceiling is you paid two mana for a lightning bolt that also enables your opponent's spell that gains them six life
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Just keep Searing Blaze in, it's not like Tron can win without resolving a creature. Also ban loving Delver of Secrets already, jesus christ, my round 3 loss is a textbook case for why Delver of Secrets is the best creature in Delver decks by miles.
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little munchkin posted:it's a conditional card. the floor is a complete blank and the ceiling is you paid two mana for a lightning bolt that also enables your opponent's spell that gains them six life If you actually had something better then yeah, you'd swap them out. I don't think you take them out for a three-mana shock that enables Pulse.
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Jabor posted:If you actually had something better then yeah, you'd swap them out. I don't think you take them out for a three-mana shock that enables Pulse. thats a good point. go with blaze i guess
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My Pauper Challenge run is up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UESioEk5EdQ&list=PLR6AT3MJ7VNyb4XeuhoUXxKFnPD6B7H0i I went 4-3. My round 3 loss is bullshit and anyone who says Delver of Secrets is anything other than incredible can go gently caress themselves. Hellsau fucked around with this message at 04:23 on May 28, 2018 |
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Got owned in the challenge, figured I would just go through a league: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5p29W6wsDU&list=PLR6AT3MJ7VNzq_Oqw46AXswbFXbbJsKBe really gotta learn not to just copy and paste playlist links
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So my Izzet Delver opponent just had a Relic of Progenitus and Serrated Arrows in play against my Stonehorn Tron. Two artifacts that are horrible. Guess which one was worse, the 2 mana cycler or the 4 mana do nothing? The Relic by far - they ended up cracking Relic to stop my Mnemonic Wall trigger from getting back a Prohibit. They then cast a Swirling Sandstorm and conceded on the following turn. That's a lot of bad sideboard cards, but holy poo poo was Relic bad.
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Hellsau posted:They then cast a Swirling Sandstorm 
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Pauper/comments/8n2udh/if_you_could_choose_a_few_cards_to_ban_from/ Seriously there are some insanely dumb motherfuckers on the Pauper subreddit. Honestly, anyone bringing in either Relic or Sandstorm against Tron is making a mistake, and someone siding in both is surely not thinking things through. I laughed my rear end off when they played the Sandstorm with an empty graveyard, paused, then conceded.
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Hellsau posted:https://www.reddit.com/r/Pauper/comments/8n2udh/if_you_could_choose_a_few_cards_to_ban_from/ Yeah, Capsize and Bog are stupid, but at least this is someone who recognizes that Delver is a problem.
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