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OddObserver
Apr 3, 2009

It's amazing how they manage to use terminology that weasels out of acknowledging Russian role in the war in a story about actions by Russian military in the occupied territory.

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HUGE PUBES A PLUS
Apr 30, 2005


https://twitter.com/ReutersIndia/status/999626401790734336

And the Russians will shrug and simply deny the findings.

https://twitter.com/AricToler/status/999626329749368832

HUGE PUBES A PLUS fucked around with this message at 14:36 on May 24, 2018

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747
They just need to keep claiming there's no proof and to wait for further investigations and all the useful idiots relaying Russian propaganda will gobble it up.

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

Currently they're claiming the videos are fakes, even though they were posted on social media weeks before MH17 was shot down, which means it's a bigger conspiracy than we could have possibly imagined. I was at the JIT press conference today, and have spent the hours since it doing loads of media interviews. At this point the JIT has pretty much confirmed everything we've written on MH17 was correct, short of IDing particular individuals, which is something they actually aren't allowed to do until the court cases.

Tomorrow we've got our own very special Bellingcat press conference on our latest MH17 investigation. A lot of the journalists in the room today were disappointed the JIT didn't show anything really new, but we've got just that for our press conference tomorrow.

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

Here's the video from the press conference, some nice visualisation tricks in there

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhyd875Qtlg

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-44252150?__twitter_impression=true

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

Today we also named a senior GRU officer as being a main suspect in the MH17 case, so a pretty bad week for Russia:
https://www.bellingcat.com/news/uk-and-europe/2018/05/25/mh17-russian-gru-commander-orion-identified-oleg-ivannikov/

HUGE PUBES A PLUS
Apr 30, 2005

Brown Moses posted:

Today we also named a senior GRU officer as being a main suspect in the MH17 case, so a pretty bad week for Russia:
https://www.bellingcat.com/news/uk-and-europe/2018/05/25/mh17-russian-gru-commander-orion-identified-oleg-ivannikov/

:ohdear: how are you doing finding that Russia-proof house?

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:

:ohdear: how are you doing finding that Russia-proof house?

It's hard to find a house with no door handles.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Brown Moses posted:

It's hard to find a house with no door handles.
Make sure you have stairs though.

Anyway, thanks for the great work. Hopefully something will come out of all this all eventually, even though it's pretty much impossible to get Russia to do anything.

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

This will do nothing for my growing phobias of doorknobs, balconies, and cups of tea
https://twitter.com/AricToler/status/1000039179848478720?s=19

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

Brown Moses posted:

This will do nothing for my growing phobias of doorknobs, balconies, and cups of tea
https://twitter.com/AricToler/status/1000039179848478720?s=19

How does it feel to be a western fascist nazi-ukraine loving pariah in the eyes of russia

Living in constant fear of a doorknob blowing your hands up, or releasing a neurotoxin or an eastern sounding person serving you a glass of tea that may or may not contain polonium. poo poo dude.

WAR CRIME GIGOLO fucked around with this message at 07:27 on May 26, 2018

GhostofJohnMuir
Aug 14, 2014

anime is not good

Brown Moses posted:

Today we also named a senior GRU officer as being a main suspect in the MH17 case, so a pretty bad week for Russia:
https://www.bellingcat.com/news/uk-and-europe/2018/05/25/mh17-russian-gru-commander-orion-identified-oleg-ivannikov/

this is amazing work, but in the end the biggest takeaway that i can't shake is that society really doesn't fully understand the ramifications of the digital footprints we are all leaving

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




Brown Moses posted:

Today we also named a senior GRU officer as being a main suspect in the MH17 case, so a pretty bad week for Russia:
https://www.bellingcat.com/news/uk-and-europe/2018/05/25/mh17-russian-gru-commander-orion-identified-oleg-ivannikov/

:eyepop: God drat, that's some nice work.

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

The Russian MFA and MoD responded by claiming we're using fabricated evidence, so I sent them an email:

https://twitter.com/EliotHiggins/status/1000339540433924096

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer

Brown Moses posted:

The Russian MFA and MoD responded by claiming we're using fabricated evidence, so I sent them an email:

https://twitter.com/EliotHiggins/status/1000339540433924096
You rock.
...
Goodbye.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
Don't open it if they promise to send proof by snail mail.

CountFosco
Jan 9, 2012

Welcome back to the Liturgigoon thread, friend.

steinrokkan posted:

I mean like two days ago I listened to a podcast by bunch of supposedly progressive west coast liberals about rasputin, and they basically kept talking about how the russian soul had been formed by siberia and how rasputin is the model for current russian politics because russians are too dumb to move past medieval mysticism

the cold war racism brain rot is here, and it is widespread

If Czar Nicholas II had listened to Rasputin, Russia would not have entered WW1. So much for "stupid peasants."

Ivan Prisypkin
Sep 11, 2011

CountFosco posted:

If Czar Nicholas II had listened to Rasputin, Russia would not have entered WW1. So much for "stupid peasants."

Having gone over most of the recent Russian Revolution histories that were published for the 100 year anniversary, every popular audience oriented one *has* to have an account of Rasputin's murder and the shooting and subsequent bayoneting of the Romanovs (Yuri Slezkine's version in House of Government is the best written and researched imo).

And that's why the Baron's Cloak by William Sunderland and Imperial Apocalypse by Josh Sanborn (which mentions Nicholas II maybe once and not by name, barely mentions Lenin) are so good in comparison......

pigdog
Apr 23, 2004

by Smythe
Some absolute oval office attacked and damaged Ilya Repin's famous "Ivan the Terrible and His Son Ivan" painting at an art gallery in Moscow. :mad:

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
gently caress, that's pretty much the official goon painting

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

steinrokkan posted:

I mean like two days ago I listened to a podcast by bunch of supposedly progressive west coast liberals about rasputin, and they basically kept talking about how the russian soul had been formed by siberia and how rasputin is the model for current russian politics because russians are too dumb to move past medieval mysticism

the cold war racism brain rot is here, and it is widespread

That isn't what was said in the podcast, but since you somehow think New York City is on the west coast you might be posting this from an alternate earth, so fair enough.

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


https://mobile.twitter.com/LouiseMensch/status/1000210126551306240

Case closed folks. Masha Gessen, Putinist traitor

icantfindaname fucked around with this message at 08:19 on May 28, 2018

HUGE PUBES A PLUS
Apr 30, 2005

https://twitter.com/opendemocracyru/status/1001534964847009797

OddObserver
Apr 3, 2009

Oh man... I seem to recall reading things he wrote about his adopted kids, too :(

He really also struck me as pretty much the only foreigner writing about things related to Ukraine without condencension, focusing primarily on the sin of the war and the responsibility Russians must hear for it, rather than telling their victims how to behave.

Rinkles
Oct 24, 2010

What I'm getting at is...
Do you feel the same way?
These reporters are heroes. Incredible bravery.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Stay safe, Brownest of Moses...

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Baronjutter posted:

Stay safe, Brownest of Moses...

in a hilarious misunderstanding, a gay porn star falls down a flight of bullets

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Brown Moses posted:

This will do nothing for my growing phobias of doorknobs, balconies, and cups of tea
https://twitter.com/AricToler/status/1000039179848478720?s=19

it's fine, they're just worried the CIA will kill you

ThisIsJohnWayne
Feb 23, 2007
Ooo! Look at me! NO DON'T LOOK AT ME!



Arkady Babchenko's "One soldiers war" is one of the most human books I've ever read. And it made a bigger impact on me than Erich Maria Remarque's "On the western front..."

Let's just say this. The world was richer yesterday.

Rinkles
Oct 24, 2010

What I'm getting at is...
Do you feel the same way?
uh

https://twitter.com/TomNamako/status/1001831720759554049

e:
https://twitter.com/ChristopherJM/status/1001832577022545921

https://twitter.com/Matthew_Kupfer/status/1001831691739115521

Rinkles fucked around with this message at 15:30 on May 30, 2018

fatherboxx
Mar 25, 2013

Seeing that Babchenko loves nothing more than trolling russian patirots to a teeth-grinding rage, this is his hour of triumph.
absolute lege

HUGE PUBES A PLUS
Apr 30, 2005

Please explain to the dumb American what the gently caress just happened. Why did Babchenko fake his own death?

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:

Please explain to the dumb American what the gently caress just happened. Why did Babchenko fake his own death?

reportedly, as part of a sting operation to catch his assassins, and the ukrainian police claim to have those assassins in custody

all english-speaking reporters appear to still be just dumbfounded and unable to convey more than that

Toplowtech
Aug 31, 2004

The Ukrainian apparently faked his death to identify who would be the Russian agents who, thinking they were successful, spread the "it was an Ukrainian state's crime" narrative.

HUGE PUBES A PLUS
Apr 30, 2005

Here is a briefing of what happened. Sorry, no English.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQGglrOBb-c

Rinkles
Oct 24, 2010

What I'm getting at is...
Do you feel the same way?

evilweasel posted:

reportedly, as part of a sting operation to catch his assassins, and the ukrainian police claim to have those assassins in custody

all english-speaking reporters appear to still be just dumbfounded and unable to convey more than that

I've seen a lot of indignation from journalists. Which I get, but with his life on the line I don't know that anyone can judge.

Some examples

https://twitter.com/AndreiSoldatov/status/1001838799578595328
https://twitter.com/MiriamElder/status/1001839414702739461
https://twitter.com/SimonOstrovsky/status/1001836550429315072
https://twitter.com/MarkUrban01/status/1001835107127357441

Wistful of Dollars
Aug 25, 2009

Those are some big shiny brass Slavic balls.

fatherboxx
Mar 25, 2013

Rinkles posted:

I've seen a lot of indignation from journalists. Which I get, but with his life on the line I don't know that anyone can judge.

Some examples

https://twitter.com/AndreiSoldatov/status/1001838799578595328
https://twitter.com/MiriamElder/status/1001839414702739461
https://twitter.com/MarkUrban01/status/1001835107127357441

If the sting was real and not just a big show (get ready for that narrative from Russia, holy poo poo) these journalists just show themselves as idiots. "Oh no my precious news cycle and heartfelt tweets of rememberance!"

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Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
This is some soap opera cliffhanger poo poo.

Then again, Eastern European politics make a lot more sense if you look at it as a nuclear-armed daytime soap instead of international politics.

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