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Icedude posted:I can't say I'm enthusiastic about an online Fallout when Bethesda's idea of an online Elder Scrolls ended up being a first-person WoW clone where you had to keep your camera pointed at your targets. I think the trailer definitely seems to indicate some kind of building/survival simulator as opposed to an MMO. I mean hell, the voiceover literally says 'You must rebuild'
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The date on the pipboy in the trailer is October 27 2102. That happens to be the same year Richard Grey fell in some vat of Chemicals and became The Master. So I guess early super mutant experiments might be a thing? http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline#2102
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May 30, 2018 16:33
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Psychotic Weasel posted:Loathsome Road: The Game. You just walk from one end of I-76 to the other while someone babbles on about nothing the entire time. The only enemy is one extremely stressful RAD meter that slowly ticks up and there's nothing you can do about it because Rad-X hasn't been invented yet
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May 30, 2018 16:33
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Valtonen posted:Wouldve been nice to take out raiding parties of armed settlers to do wasteland mop-up or organized salvaging parties with brahmin to scour the roads of car wrecks. Far Harbor had a bit of this where settlers will get worried about a threat or invite you to go hunt down a hermit crab and join you and it was probably the only time i've ever enjoyed ~radiant quests~
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May 30, 2018 16:36
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May 30, 2018 16:37
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Really the biggest mistake here is that it's almost certainly running on a further tortured and abused version of Gamebryo.
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May 30, 2018 16:40
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Sinteres posted:Most of those things shouldn't exist yet at this point in the timeline. The lack of any huge factions is alright. This location is unheard of, so you also get the possibility of canon being created by dev events and player achievements. There is a lot of promise that will never be followed up on because get ready for Farmville VR 76'
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Doorknob Slobber posted:99% of the assets in the teaser seem like they're straight from fallout 4. Same engine, same assets, doubt if there is any online poo poo that its going to be very big. Its a New Vegas style spin off hopefully with some UI improvements for building our new town outside of vault 76. Eh, assets are relatively easily portable, and if there's much online component at all like they're saying, it'll have to be a different engine. Considering it's a spinoff, asset reuse was going to be inevitable.
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May 30, 2018 16:40
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AlternateAccount posted:Really the biggest mistake here is that it's almost certainly running on a further tortured and abused version of Gamebryo. Since this is probably the single thing that a.) keeps the game moddable and b.) keeps it from being an MMO, I'm happy for them to keep duct taping games to this engine.
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May 30, 2018 16:42
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I agree. They plopped a vague (potentially misleading) teaser two weeks before releasing any specific information. The rumors are leading to pessimistic speculation, but they set themselves up for this themselves.
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May 30, 2018 16:44
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I was excited but fortunately the forums were here to make me disappointed in advance instead thanks Games.
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May 30, 2018 16:44
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My God, imagine a Bethesda game with a new engine that would let you do things such as: use KBM and xinput at the same time walk through doors while holding the walk/run key walk around on moving platforms basically the year 3000
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May 30, 2018 16:44
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Rinkles posted:I agree. They plopped a vague (potentially misleading) teaser two weeks before releasing any specific information. The rumors are leading to pessimistic speculation, but they set themselves up for this themselves. The game is going to sell like hotcakes regardless so I doubt they care
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May 30, 2018 16:46
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2house2fly posted:The game is going to sell like hotcakes regardless so I doubt they care This. Bethsoft is the Metallica of games: they will sell millions with no question, while at the same time it's always cool to bash them. Edit: Lars = Todd ..Lars Toddrich
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May 30, 2018 16:47
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This but Fallout: https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/258262904091058176?lang=en
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2house2fly posted:The game is going to sell like hotcakes regardless so I doubt they care I imagine it'll at least mildly irritate Pete Hines.
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May 30, 2018 16:48
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lol "pessimistic speculation" like anyone will seriously give a poo poo after they put their E3 show and hype things up again
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May 30, 2018 16:48
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Say what you will about Bethesda (I'm certainly not going to stop calling them out for doing stuff that I think is dumb/bad), but they've turned Fallout into a mega-successful IP that's more or less a license to print money. I'm almost surprised they haven't milked it more, a la Disney with Star Wars
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May 30, 2018 16:54
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hawowanlawow posted:My God, imagine a Bethesda game with a new engine that would let you do things such as: Walk into a building without a loading screen Have more than eight people in a room
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May 30, 2018 16:55
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Psychotic Weasel posted:Loathsome Road: The Game. You just walk from one end of I-76 to the other while someone babbles on about nothing the entire time. I'm down.
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May 30, 2018 16:56
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frajaq posted:lol "pessimistic speculation" A bad news cycle can have lasting effects, but I'm more annoyed that they weren't more forthcoming.
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May 30, 2018 16:58
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chaosapiant posted:Since this is probably the single thing that a.) keeps the game moddable and b.) keeps it from being an MMO, I'm happy for them to keep duct taping games to this engine. doesn't interplay(or whoever ended up with the corpse of interplay) still own the rights to any potential fallout mmo? I remember originally that was something they kept when they sold the Fallout IP to Bethesda.
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May 30, 2018 16:58
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Is it me or does there seem to be a bit of unnecessary overlap between the potential of Fallout '76 and Rage 2? Both post apocalyptic, both based around a road/roads, both shooters, both have online components.
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May 30, 2018 16:59
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Doorknob Slobber posted:doesn't interplay(or whoever ended up with the corpse of interplay) still own the rights to any potential fallout mmo? I remember originally that was something they kept when they sold the Fallout IP to Bethesda. Apparently Interplay/whoever' keeping the rights was contingent on them releasing a Fallout MMO before a certain time period passed--that deadline came and went, and Bethesda scooped up the Fallout MMO rights
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May 30, 2018 17:00
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The online rumors have me concerned that there will come a day when teenagers and poopsockers I do not know will call me racial slurs for using sub-optimal character builds for my vault dweller. I just hope it's like minecraft or borderlands, where the online component is optional and controllable. Otherwise I'm going to be playing with goons with the singular purpose of disrupting the fun of the aforementioned pubbies.
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May 30, 2018 17:02
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Riatsala posted:The online rumors have me concerned that there will come a day when teenagers and poopsockers I do not know will call me racial slurs for using sub-optimal character builds for my vault dweller. Eh, Skyrim and Fallout 4 made it impossible to make bad, good, unique, or original characters. Everyone will be level 60 and have all perks unlocked and nothing will matter.
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May 30, 2018 17:03
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chaosapiant posted:Is it me or does there seem to be a bit of unnecessary overlap between the potential of Fallout '76 and Rage 2? Both post apocalyptic, both based around a road/roads, both shooters, both have online components. Considering we know virtually nothing about Fallout76 and only know you can shoot people and drive cars in RAGE 2 I think it's a bit premature to start guessing at overlap. Bethesda and the spinoff of Interplay also had themselves a nice lawsuit a couple years back so Bethesda could block the release of whatever MMO was being dreamed up and wrest control of the entire IP for themselves. I seem to remember them winning, too. So guessing that this will be ESO: Fallout isn't entirely unfounded.
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Riatsala posted:The online rumors have me concerned that there will come a day when teenagers and poopsockers I do not know will call me racial slurs for using sub-optimal character builds for my vault dweller. If the rust/arklike clone rumors are true I probably actually won't buy it. I could never really get into those games, partly because I'm boring and have no friends to play with.
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Rinkles posted:I agree. They plopped a vague (potentially misleading) teaser two weeks before releasing any specific information. The rumors are leading to pessimistic speculation, but they set themselves up for this themselves. I imagine someone at Bethesda there's a group of community managers and marketers absolutely freaking out right now. Guys, the SA thread is pretty lukewarm about our announcement! If the grognardiest mother fuckers on the internet who have never liked a thing before ever don't like our announcement then it's all over.
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May 30, 2018 17:05
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Doorknob Slobber posted:I could never really get into those games, partly because I'm boring and have no friends to play with. That's what goons are for.
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May 30, 2018 17:06
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Doorknob Slobber posted:If the rust/arklike clone rumors are true I probably actually won't buy it. I could never really get into those games, partly because I'm boring and have no friends to play with. Yeah, I'm not much of a fan of punishing survival craft games, less so ones where the enemy is other players. If it's fairly chill and laid back or more co-op focused, I might be interested.
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Sinteres posted:That's what goons are for. If this Rust-clone is what the game ends up being, I might have to finally break the seal and join some goon servers or however goons play together online
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I'm hoping beyond hope that there isn't a new game engine involved. Because that will limit what can be done wrt multiplayer. And who knows, the "online" poo poo might just mean better/more integration with the Bethesda Modding framework.
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Anyways, I blame ESO for the lack of a new Elder Scrolls game, so if there's now a Fallout Online I'll be pretty annoyed and uninterested. But a survival type game would interest me, I love that poo poo. Best possible outcome: This is all a major distraction for the real announcement; Elder Scrolls 6. It'll never happen though.
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Sheen Sheen posted:Say what you will about Bethesda (I'm certainly not going to stop calling them out for doing stuff that I think is dumb/bad), but they've turned Fallout into a mega-successful IP that's more or less a license to print money. I'm almost surprised they haven't milked it more, a la Disney with Star Wars I do actually give them some credit for that. Quite a bit, actually. The gap between Fallout 3 and Fallout 4 was 7 years. Sure, we got New Vegas but they didn't develop that one...and it was still 5 years between it and FO4. It would be really easy to come out with a "new" Fallout and/or Elder Scrolls game staggered every 2 years by just throwing a new story onto the existing engine and pushing it out the door. That they show any restraint at all in that sense is frankly kind of a wonder in the modern AAA setting. The games may be a janky mess of too many ideas not implemented or thought-out fully...but they're usually at least *fun* janky messes, and the ease with which they can be modded almost always improves the experience by orders of magnitude. I guess what I mean is that when Bethesda puts out a "bad" game it is somehow usually still infinitely more playable and fun to screw around in than almost any other developer and I'm not sure I can actually quantify why that is.
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counterfeitsaint posted:Anyways, I blame ESO for the lack of a new Elder Scrolls game, so if there's now a Fallout Online I'll be pretty annoyed and uninterested. But a survival type game would interest me, I love that poo poo. Best possible outcome: This is all a major distraction for the real announcement; Elder Scrolls 6. It'll never happen though. It's not like Square stopped making Final Fantasy games because they have two Final Fantasy MMOs. I don't know why Bethesda put ES6 so far on the back burner, but my guess is that ESO isn't the biggest reason. I hope it'll be because they have another giant open world RPG IP to announce at E3 this year.
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Sheen Sheen posted:If this Rust-clone is what the game ends up being, I might have to finally break the seal and join some goon servers or however goons play together online I'd be tempted, but I'd need to know what the clan's policy is regarding mutants first.
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Sheen Sheen posted:If this Rust-clone is what the game ends up being, I might have to finally break the seal and join some goon servers or however goons play together online If there's cooperative multi there will be plenty of find a goon options. If there is cooperative multi that lets you gently caress over other people trying to enjoy the game there will be a website, recruitment drive, goon charter and functional leadership heirarchy months before the game launches.
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counterfeitsaint posted:If the grognardiest mother fuckers on the internet who have never liked a thing before ever don't like our announcement then it's all over. Look at this idiot who's never been to No Mutants Allowed.
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Sinteres posted:It's not like Square stopped making Final Fantasy games because they have two Final Fantasy MMOs. I don't know why Bethesda put ES6 so far on the back burner, but my guess is that ESO isn't the biggest reason. So far the pattern has been two Fallout games in-between Elder Scrolls releases and now we still have a potential new game in "Starfield" to increase the wait time on Elder Scrolls. Granted New Vegas was a different team, but still.
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