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Nodosaur posted:so apparently the thing that made Greymon easier to raise in the original v-pet than Tyrannomon was a programming error that switched their raising requirements hmm, greymon is cooler then tyrannomon but the tyranno evos (especially rusttyranno) completely own greymons, so all told this is bad
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 this is in Digimon Linkz and it's just a recolor but it is The Coolest poo poo
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May 22, 2018 01:01
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Red just fits Beelzebumon very well.
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May 22, 2018 02:41
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Is he EdgeBeezlemon? (A statement I previously would have thought redundant.) Edit: JK, it's a cool design.
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May 22, 2018 02:48
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PMush Perfect posted:Is he EdgeBeezlemon? (A statement I previously would have thought redundant.) The first is, as far as I understand, Beelzebumon but corrupted by Volcanicdramon's powers. Several other Digimon in Links also got recolours due to the same reason. Surprisingly enough, they do not count as new Digimon, though I guess we aren't in Digimon World times anymore. The second (the one in my post) is Beelzebumon X.
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Via With the Willquote:Hiroyuki Kakudou, director of Adventure, 02, and X-Evolution (among a number of other positions in various Digimon releases) has announced on Twitter that he has resigned from the new Digimon project.
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May 28, 2018 07:49
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Well that already fills me with dread for the next series. None of us knew he was involved but having his name in it would already be a good thing, so if he decided to leave like this...it doesn't say anything good about it, not at all.
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May 28, 2018 13:07
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I mean, it’s not like Kakudoh hasn’t been difficult or made poor decisions of his own before.
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May 28, 2018 14:50
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Him not being involved isn't necessarily a bad thing. Him deciding to publicly announce his quitting, before even being announced, is pretty damning. poo poo like this happens more often than we'd think, but it's kept under wraps because professionalism and all that stuff, for this guy to go "someone submitted a plot that made no sense and the P-Sans agreed to it without my consent, so i bailed this production." online is insane. This following hot out of loving Digimon Tri is even more damning.
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I'm just saying consider the source here. This is a guy who had a completely different idea of what was going on in 02 from the rest of the writing staff a lot of the time.
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And i'm saying that regardless of the source, regardless of if the talent that will eventually replace him is a net gain; us hearing about this at all in such a public fashion is a very bad sign for the overall production of this new Digimon project.
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May 28, 2018 21:50
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Maybe, maybe not. I'm just remembering that this is the guy who said certain developments only he knew about were evident from the start, to the surprise of his own staff and the actual cast, so I'm not really sure I implicitly trust the degree to which he can balance his own views versus what the rest of the production wants. We have no way of knowing who the source of these problems was, or if his account is even reliable, because again - he's been notoriously unreliable about that in the past.
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Nodosaur posted:(...) I'm just remembering that this is the guy who said certain developments only he knew about were evident from the start, to the surprise of his own staff and the actual cast(...) Can I ask what you're referring to here?
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Yamato and Sora's relationship is the big one, with Kakudoh remaining adamant that it was something set up and with energy put into it from the start. But 02's writing staff, and to a lesser extent Adventure's, was pretty notorious about the left hand not knowing what the right was doing. He also claimed that Pipimon died when Oikawa did, because Digimon partners die when their partners do, despite this not fitting what was portrayed on screen at all (he's up and talking as Oikawa turns into the drat butterflies) and also conflicting with the fact that Oikawa isn't actually dead. Nodosaur fucked around with this message at 22:22 on May 28, 2018 |
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May 28, 2018 22:19
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Nodosaur posted:Digimon partners die when their partners do This is a bullshit idea and I am incredibly happy it has never really come up ever. I feel like if nothing else, it's got to have been contradicted somewhere else in the series.
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May 28, 2018 22:31
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It is, in the exact scene where Kakudoh says it supposedly happened. Also, the Chosen Children, would have seen all of this and definitely remember it, definitely think Taichi is dead for most of Tri part 6, and never at any point go "wait, if Koromon is here, doesn't that mean that Taichi is alive?" So it's mostly bullshit.
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Nodosaur posted:It is, in the exact scene where Kakudoh says it supposedly happened. I meant somewhere other than that scene, since he's talking about it "clearly" happening there. I mean, whether or not it is (it isn't), I just feel like somewhere else has to be a scene where the Tamer or whatever dies, and the Digimon itself is just fine.
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No, there isn’t. As far as Adventure goes, other than Daigo in Tri, the only times a human character besides Oikawa “dies”, a Digimon partner isn’t involved. I.e. Iori’s dad and Ken’s brother.
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May 29, 2018 04:33
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I don't know how it is in the Japanese or American dub but Oikawa definitely dies since he uses the power of the dream dimension to turn the remaining of his life into energy to restore the Digital World. And the idea of the Digimon dying when its partners do, applies just to Chosen Children no tamers. So under that rule, Baihumon is toasted.
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Also we have the ultimate proof in Tamers that that rule doesn't apply there. Dobermon.
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May 29, 2018 05:40
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He's still got a sense of will about him, so it's not really death. And again, Pipimon is right there talking to him as he turns into a swarm of butterflies and disappears.
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May 29, 2018 05:41
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Nodosaur posted:He's still got a sense of will about him, so it's not really death. And he's never seen again afterward.
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so what, Pipimon is a zombie in those moments after Oikawa's body disappears? No, I'm sorry, the notion makes absolutely zero sense.
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Nodosaur posted:so what, Pipimon is a zombie in those moments after Oikawa's body disappears? Or he's also dying at the same time. It wouldn't be the first time that a Digimon is able to give some last words while is dying. The idea is an unnecessary retcon but one that works within the context of the series.
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The main thing to take away is that this is incredibly shocking because usually a departure like this is taken as "Oh he's grown ill" if announced and nothing at all, if not announced. The fact he felt the need to go "WELL I'M OFF THE PROJECT" is incredibly not what was expected. I have no doubt like mid-way through Tri they got the word "So we're going to do a Digimon Quattro" and it's like "poo poo lets not wrap things up"
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The thing with Kakudou is certainly a bad sign. He may have been behind some of the complaints I had about 02, but having him on board would have made me feel more confident about it. That said, what he considers to fit with what the series established is up in the air, since unless I’m reading it wrong he seems to imply the movies didn’t follow that either, and movie 3’s the only one I though was any bad.Nodosaur posted:so what, Pipimon is a zombie in those moments after Oikawa's body disappears? They’re just moments. He could easily have disintegrated after they cut away.
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Not really? Why would that happen, when the butterflies are shown to appear later on, even in the future of 02’s epilogue. There’s no reason to assume he’d keel over later when he was perfectly fine otherwise. If he died he would have done so when Oikawa’s body disappeared. It doesn’t make any sense and it’s just a way of wringing meaningless depressive tragedy out of a moment that doesn’t need more of it, and it just sucks as a general concept that also reinforces the idea that partners are just accessories to their humans without lives of their own.
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Nodosaur posted:Not really? Why would that happen, when the butterflies are shown to appear later on, even in the future of 02’s epilogue. There’s no reason to assume he’d keel over later when he was perfectly fine otherwise. If he died he would have done so when Oikawa’s body disappeared. I mean, nobody said the partners died at the exact moment. I doubt they were thinking of it at the time but there’s like a dozen ways you could spin this... and “it doesn’t make sense” is something you could say about a number of things from the series.
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Hitlersaurus Christ posted:I mean, nobody said the partners died at the exact moment. I doubt they were thinking of it at the time but there’s like a dozen ways you could spin this... and “it doesn’t make sense” is something you could say about a number of things from the series. Yeah like how Kakudoh had a moment to explain how Crests were placebo's that didn't have any power, and then had said crests be used as a power source, including a Crest of Kindness, which didn't line up with any of the other Crests (Which were made in a lab specifically for the 8 kids) including having the children "Give up" the crests, and then in Tri having the kids evolve with no issue or thought put towards it.
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Or the fact that there just happened to be ancient artifacts that corresponded to the traits that the chosen children had.
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https://twitter.com/habumon/status/1001253986056339456 A new Digimon game, neither World nor Story, will be announced this summer. I'm hoping it is a modernization of the Digital Card Battle concept, like Cyber Sleuth was to the DS games.
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So did everyone else know that Kakudou’s concept for 03 was Digimon vs aliens? Because I just found that out and uhhh yeah, not sure I’m much of a fan of that, at least in the Adventure-verse. Blaze Dragon posted:https://twitter.com/habumon/status/1001253986056339456 It say that they’re trying a new concept that’s a bit different from the series (whether or not that means wot will drop the World or Story names is up in the air) so I wouldn’t count on it being something they’ve done before. He mentioned during a Hacker’s Memory interview that they were still working on the next main Story game, right? Maybe that evolved into something different.
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Blaze Dragon posted:https://twitter.com/habumon/status/1001253986056339456 Personally I wouldn't mind them giving an Action RPG style game a try again, hopefully with better results than Digimon World 4
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drrockso20 posted:Personally I wouldn't mind them giving an Action RPG style game a try again, hopefully with better results than Digimon World 4 Can we please do better than Digimon World 4 For the love of Christ it took SO LONG to load anything and the action was so monotomous Also the selection of Digimon was atrocious, that you could play as. I ended up just gunning for Hercules Kabuterimon
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drrockso20 posted:Personally I wouldn't mind them giving an Action RPG style game a try again, hopefully with better results than Digimon World 4 Digimon World 4 makes the other Digimon games of the time look like absolute masterpieces. Whatever comes out of this, can't ever be as bad as that game. Then again, I guess the number 4 is just cursed in Digimon. Can't wait for Digimon Adventure Quattro, which follows the footsteps of such grands as Frontier and World 4!
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Hey, the front half of Frontier is a decent but flawed sentai series with a rough Digimon theme. The back half was a dumpster fire, though.
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Lucemon is still one of the franchise's best villains. And Cherubimon's arc is legitimately heartbreaking. No series squanders its potential as much as XW tho.
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PMush Perfect posted:Hey, the front half of Frontier is a decent but flawed sentai series with a rough Digimon theme. The back half was a dumpster fire, though. It's a Sentai series, sure, but it's the kind where only the Red ever gets to actually matter, with a bit of Blue here and there. Which fine, that's Kyoryuger and Kyoryuger is super good, but this one was mediocre at best and terrible at worst. Great villains though, that's always a plus. Nodosaur posted:Lucemon is still one of the franchise's best villains. And Cherubimon's arc is legitimately heartbreaking. Lucemon appears too late to matter and the only thing he has in his favour is a really good final boss fight, otherwise he's a step above Apocalymon and far below his immediate predecessor, the D-Reaper. Not to mention how all his plot is slow as poo poo and incredibly tedious. I never felt anything for Cherubimon. DigiIncel, meh. Xros Wars is better than Frontier in pretty much every single way and even there it's an okay series at most, which says a lot about Frontier.
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Blaze Dragon posted:It's a Sentai series, sure, but it's the kind where only the Red ever gets to actually matter, with a bit of Blue here and there. Which fine, that's Kyoryuger and Kyoryuger is super good, but this one was mediocre at best and terrible at worst. Great villains though, that's always a plus. It still kind of bothers me that Izumi got jobbed in her first fight and never really got much of a chance to make up for it. Despite that, Frontier was an interesting concept (letting the humans take an active role in the fight rather than just leaving it to the Digimon), it just wasn't executed all that well. Larryb fucked around with this message at 19:28 on May 30, 2018 |
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