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R. Guyovich posted:ah, a fellow friend of donald on facebook was talking with a friend about music from that era, his post popped up and down the rabbit hole i went
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May 30, 2018 06:52
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Aliquid posted:was talking with a friend about music from that era, his post popped up and down the rabbit hole i went namaste
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May 30, 2018 08:05
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system of a down is basically the logical follow-up to rage against the machine with more annoying music
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May 30, 2018 09:52
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ScrubLeague posted:system of a down is basically the logical follow-up to rage against the machine with more annoying music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3L4YrGaR8E4
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May 30, 2018 10:06
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i think i was the perfect age for evil empire when it came out, but i can't listen to basically any ratm anymore without just being sad that it was the best praxis for an adolescent nu-metal revolutionary at the time and the current version of it is idk... run the jewels?
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May 30, 2018 10:12
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R. Guyovich posted:ah, a fellow friend of donald on facebook r.i.p. no quarter
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May 30, 2018 12:38
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ScrubLeague posted:i think i was the perfect age for evil empire when it came out, but i can't listen to basically any ratm anymore without just being sad that it was the best praxis for an adolescent nu-metal revolutionary at the time and the current version of it is idk... run the jewels? Their flow is sub par okay there I said it
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May 30, 2018 12:44
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saw a guy today with a fitters shirt on that read "thank a union member for AMERICA" on the back this has been today's Labor Aristocrat Digest
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May 30, 2018 15:58
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GalacticAcid posted:saw a guy today with a fitters shirt on that read "thank a union member for AMERICA" on the back stealing valor from Are Troops, shameful
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May 30, 2018 16:31
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Aliquid posted:i'm going through old RATM music videos and zack de la rocha really had a lot invested in the 2000 election "bush and gore are two sides of the same coin" is one of the all time hot takes
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May 30, 2018 16:51
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Gore would have invaded Iraq
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May 30, 2018 17:49
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mm i dont think so afghanistan for sure though lol
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May 30, 2018 17:50
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perry anderson made a pretty persuasive case that he very well might have though in American Foreign Policy and its Thinkers, which I recommend
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May 30, 2018 17:51
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GalacticAcid posted:perry anderson made a pretty persuasive case that he very well might have though in American Foreign Policy and its Thinkers, which I recommend Care to sum up the argument? I'm curious.
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May 30, 2018 17:56
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Aliquid posted:aaahahaha holy loving poo poo he really did direct that, thank you he also directed sleep now in the fire which is by far ratm's best imo al gore was the epitome of a succdem and people just kinda forgot because of inconvenient truth and how bad bush was
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May 30, 2018 18:07
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Goon Danton posted:Care to sum up the argument? I'm curious. It's been a little while and my memory is a bit fuzzy since I read the book in short chunks on the subway. but he cited the dems' reliance on 'liberal interventionist' foreign policy hacks for advisers & staffers, all of whom were hostile to iraq, and charted how that manifested in concrete policy terms -- in particular, Bill Clinton's signing of the Iraq Liberation Act, which made regime change in Iraq the official USG policy. He pointed to the murderous sanctions and the clinton admin's blase attitude to the staggering body count they incurred, and the hawkish line taken by most beltway Dems in the actual runup to bush's war. again i'm not convinced so maybe someone who agrees and has read it more recently can weigh in if anybody has a New Left Review account, the book was originally published as a two part essay there: Part I: Imperium Part II: Consilium I don't have an account or I'd PM you the text, sorry.
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May 30, 2018 18:11
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Aliquid posted:Their flow is sub par okay there I said it yeah tbh RTJ for me works better as spoken word than it does like artistic rap but that's probably the best analog to mid-90s RATM, yeah?
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May 30, 2018 18:12
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it is funny when people are like, woah tom morello is this amazing guitar player. i mean he's pretty good yeah but it's also, like, wakka wakka
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May 30, 2018 18:36
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we just need to go back to seventies- era west german punk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pW5w6BF1OwU
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May 30, 2018 19:27
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ScrubLeague posted:i think i was the perfect age for evil empire when it came out, but i can't listen to basically any ratm anymore without just being sad that it was the best praxis for an adolescent nu-metal revolutionary at the time and the current version of it is idk... run the jewels? rage against the machine came back with chuck d, dj lord, and b-real as prophets of rage if you want more metal in your revolutionary rap zac is not in it but maybe they'll have him guest on some track
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May 30, 2018 20:17
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Aliquid posted:they were definitely more fleshed-out regular people than in most other media i see today I remember the first half of "Steal This Album!" being completely legit the back half, well, not so much
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May 30, 2018 20:27
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system of a down in incredible what the gently caress
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May 30, 2018 20:30
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dururrr. this loud, angry song about how the police are bad, or how drug laws are purely intended to fund for-profit prisons isnt NEARLY funky and mellow enough for me
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May 30, 2018 20:31
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ScrubLeague posted:system of a down is basically the logical follow-up to rage against the machine with more annoying music SOAD is praxis https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILc0cYkKqFs
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May 30, 2018 20:39
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StashAugustine posted:we just need to go back to seventies- era west german punk wrong https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHWlWjjePYo
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May 30, 2018 20:41
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Top City Homo posted:SOAD is praxis https://youtu.be/gtcHwr7K-2c
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May 30, 2018 20:46
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GalacticAcid posted:It's been a little while and my memory is a bit fuzzy since I read the book in short chunks on the subway. but he cited the dems' reliance on 'liberal interventionist' foreign policy hacks for advisers & staffers, all of whom were hostile to iraq, and charted how that manifested in concrete policy terms -- in particular, Bill Clinton's signing of the Iraq Liberation Act, which made regime change in Iraq the official USG policy. He pointed to the murderous sanctions and the clinton admin's blase attitude to the staggering body count they incurred, and the hawkish line taken by most beltway Dems in the actual runup to bush's war. I think the difference between Democratic interventionism and Republican interventionism is that Democrats won't go in alone. That Libya was with NATO, but we couldn't get anybody on board for a Iraq suggests that hypothetical president Gore would not have attacked Iraq
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May 30, 2018 21:02
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:I think the difference between Democratic interventionism and Republican interventionism is that Democrats won't go in alone. That Libya was with NATO, but we couldn't get anybody on board for a Iraq suggests that hypothetical president Gore would not have attacked Iraq We got tons of countries on board for Iraq, what the Hell are you talking about?
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May 30, 2018 21:06
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:I think the difference between Democratic interventionism and Republican interventionism is that Democrats won't go in alone. That Libya was with NATO, but we couldn't get anybody on board for a Iraq suggests that hypothetical president Gore would not have attacked Iraq https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coalition_of_the_willing
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May 30, 2018 21:08
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:We got tons of countries on board for Iraq, what the Hell are you talking about? We didn't have France and Germany, nobody gives a poo poo about Poland, much less Micronesia
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May 30, 2018 21:10
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:We didn't have France and Germany, nobody gives a poo poo about Poland, much less Micronesia This is one of the dumbest posts you've ever made.
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May 30, 2018 21:11
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:I think the difference between Democratic interventionism and Republican interventionism is that Democrats won't go in alone. That Libya was with NATO, but we couldn't get anybody on board for a Iraq suggests that hypothetical president Gore would not have attacked Iraq Then again,  (full article)
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May 30, 2018 21:17
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Setting aside that the UK is the only country that really matters in terms of military support, a hypothetical Gore administration would've been more likely to get France on board because he wouldn't have pitched it to Chirac as the climactic battle between Gog and Magog.
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May 30, 2018 21:20
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it was cool how blair became a born again catholic but knew it would go down insanely badly so hid it while leading everyone into the crusades mk whatever
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May 30, 2018 21:22
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GalacticAcid posted:Then again, I'm not defending Democratic foreign policy, a Good presidency would be at best as catastrophic as Clinton's
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May 30, 2018 21:30
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This New York Times profile of Boots Riley is the most respectful treatment of genuine radical politics I have ever seen in the bourgeois press. I’m floored. Please give it a read. I don’t think I’ve ever seen the Progressive Labor Party mentioned in the Times for any reason, let alone mentioned as a vessel for serious political work.
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May 31, 2018 01:45
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I’m phone posting so someone else please post excerpts.
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May 31, 2018 01:46
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GalacticAcid posted:I’m phone posting so someone else please post excerpts. he sneaks this at the end "as long as the fight is going on.” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IY_wk-cLofY
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noble democrats certainly would not be bush-like warhawks i screech as obama continues bush's wars of aggression and starts new ones and the entire liberal press hoots and hollers for all of it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNfucKAftB0
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