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Grittybeard posted:Probably just trying to get away from Jeff Fisher really. Never has a professional athlete been more relatable.
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seiferguy posted:Our running game should be a lot better. It's fine if you think taking an RB so early is a reach but it's hard to argue it won't improve. I’d argue that Brian Schottenheimer is calling the plays, so it drat well could get worse.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:I’d argue that Brian Schottenheimer is calling the plays, so it drat well could get worse. From that perspective, sure. But from a personnel one it's absolutely gotten better.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:I’d argue that Brian Schottenheimer is calling the plays, so it drat well could get worse. I love that Brian went to Georgia where they grow amazing running back prospects in labs on campus or something and the offensive problems actually often could have been solved by running the damned ball. Which is the only thing he might be good at. And he sucked there too and got Mark Richt fired.
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seiferguy posted:From that perspective, sure. But from a personnel one it's absolutely gotten better. I don't understand how you've reached this conclusion. The team lost a ton of good players in FA, didn't pick up anyone too notable, and then had what seems to be one of the worst drafts of all the teams. I just don't understand how a round 3 RB (that's where he should've been anyways) is going to manage what several good RBs haven't behind that horrible o line. A bunch of defensive players and WRs that were reliable last year are gone as well . . . I don't have anything against the Seahawks but I really think this next season is going to be rough. A lot of Seahawks fans who haven't known anything but extended success are going to be taken by surprise imo
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Play posted:I don't understand how you've reached this conclusion. The team lost a ton of good players in FA, didn't pick up anyone too notable, and then had what seems to be one of the worst drafts of all the teams. I just don't understand how a round 3 RB (that's where he should've been anyways) is going to manage what several good RBs haven't behind that horrible o line. A bunch of defensive players and WRs that were reliable last year are gone as well . . . You know we still have one of the best QBs in football, right You keep talking like this season is going to be some massive meltdown nobody saw coming when pretty much everyone in this thread agrees it's gonna just be boring and average-y, with Russ dragging them to 8-8 or whatever. "Welp gonna be a transition year" is not the Earth-shattering revelation you keep making it out as.
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Benne posted:You know we still have one of the best QBs in football, right https://www.reddit.com/r/Seahawks/comments/7s8tz1/looking_ahead_to_2018_season_where_do_you_pencil/
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I'm optimistic because I believe in some of the younger players on our D, but as Mina Kimes put it the team got worse in the offseason, not better so logically they should do worse than last season. Also, factor in that there is potentially 2 really good teams in our conference.....
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Benne posted:You know we still have one of the best QBs in football, right The Chargers have had one of the best QBs in football for a decade. It's not always enough, especially, as they've shown, when the o-line has big holes.  \Also relevant: https://twitter.com/gbellseattle/status/1001931628652851201
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Benne posted:You know we still have one of the best QBs in football, right There’s at least a couple of Hawks fans in the thread who think the team will be better than last year. RWBS will certainly get them some wins, but they are one mild Russell Wilson leg injury away from being a 4 win team.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:There’s at least a couple of Hawks fans in the thread who think the team will be better than last year. 1. It is plausible that a health 2018 Seahawks team will have an equal or better record than the injured 2017 Seahawks team. 2. Wilson is a really good pocket passer too. He's not some one-trick pony. And if you are changing the claim from "mild" to more severe well then yeah every team is a big qb injury away from being a 4 win team. 3. Lol at the unstated implication that the team is bereft of talent outside of Wilson. e: 19-0 Austin 3:16 bitch JIZZ DENOUEMENT fucked around with this message at 23:40 on May 30, 2018 |
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JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:And if you are changing the claim from "mild" to more severe well then yeah every team is a big qb injury away from being a 4 win team. Not the Eagles, bitch.
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Chichevache posted:Not the Eagles, bitch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-P30M_7YEg
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I'm here for the mea culpa re: Foster. Coldforge was right all along, the SC DA is loving insane. As a peace offering, I leave this- https://twitter.com/smartfootball/status/1001904403492868097
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Plus we are now equipped with the unassailable lobster hierarchy mindset from the Venerable Jordan Peterson. The sage mindwarrior whose soaring rhetoric has inspired countless internet nerds to transform from sad hopeless virgins with clothes strewn about their rooms into angry spiteful virgins who feel entitled to gently caress their crush because now the clothes are just in one corner of the room.
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JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:2. Wilson is a really good pocket passer too. He's not some one-trick pony. And if you are changing the claim from "mild" to more severe well then yeah every team is a big qb injury away from being a 4 win team. Wilson just needs to get hurt badly enough to hamper his mobility, like a couple of seasons ago, and the Seahawks lose a large portion of what makes their offense click, infosar as it does click. He’s a good pocket passer, but not good enough to carry a team with one good receiver, bad line play, and Brian Schottenheimer.
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I just don't know how you look at that and say, without a hint of sarcasm, "yeah, the Seahawks will finish over .500 next season."
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"But guyyyyys what if your star QB gets hurt" belongs in the No poo poo Sherlock wing of cold takes
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Are you allowed to take a sabbatical from watching football? Asking for a friend.
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seiferguy posted:Are you allowed to take a sabbatical from watching football? Asking for a friend. Jerry Jones says no, but you're allowed pick an AFC team to follow for a year or two.
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Benne posted:"But guyyyyys what if your star QB gets hurt" belongs in the No poo poo Sherlock wing of cold takes Every football player is varying degrees of hurt all the time. Wilson doesn’t need to get hurt badly to limit his ability to run. There’s a bunch of offenses that can still function just fine if their QB’s mobility is hampered, but Seattle’s isn’t one of them.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:Every football player is varying degrees of hurt all the time. Wilson doesn’t need to get hurt badly to limit his ability to run. There’s a bunch of offenses that can still function just fine if their QB’s mobility is hampered, but Seattle’s isn’t one of them. He is literally one of the best passers in the league. https://www.footballoutsiders.com/index.php?q=stat-analysis/2017/quarterbacks-and-pressure-2016 quote:There's a good argument that Russell Wilson, since he entered the league in 2012, has the best overall stats of all these quarterbacks. His DVOA with pressure is second only to Roethlisberger, and his DVOA without pressure is the best in the league, even surpassing Brady's.
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JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:He is literally one of the best passers in the league. His passing stats can’t be divorced from his ability to run. Teams spend resources game planning around the fact that he’s a danger to both pull it down and take off and also because he’s so slippery in the pocket that traditional edge pressure often simply doesn’t work and gives his receivers enough time to wiggle free. In 2017 Wilson had the 31st highest time to throw in the league. He was holding on to the ball longer than just about anyone else, and that’s because he could. Would he still be as efficient if he needed to get rid of the ball a little quicker because he couldn’t dance around the pass rush? And if you want to use FO to bolster your argument maybe you’d like to list where hey actually rank him for the last couple of years.
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I agree, we shouldn't think he's really good just because he's really good.
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Intel&Sebastian posted:I agree, we shouldn't think he's really good just because he's really good. I didn’t say he wasn’t good.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:And if you want to use FO to bolster your argument maybe you’d like to list where hey actually rank him for the last couple of years. So people don't have to look this up since you're a jerk and made me curious. League ranks: 2017 - DYAR (total production): 13th DVOA (per play): 15th 2016 - DYAR: 14 DVOA: 15 2015 - 3 & 3 2014 - 13 & 14 2013 - 9 & 8 2012 - 8 & 6
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Super solid for sure, I don't think anyone could ever argue that Russ isn't a good QB. I just wish he had more help. Last season was kind of painful because he wasn't able to play to his potential and I just think going into next season they haven't addressed those problems enough. The team is always scrappy but imagine if Russell had the kind of weapons that Brees, Roethlisburger, and Wentz had last season. Including a solid o line and productive run game to take some of the pressure off. That's where I'd love to see him, not struggling and having to come up with magic every game like this past season.
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JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:So is the third line tbh We haven't even mentioned them by name, and I'm already bored of the Ra... 
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Coldforge posted:https://twitter.com/ChrisWesseling/status/1002242117354143745 Interesting that Wilson had the most amount of drives per that section of the list.
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Jimmy G so generous in his five starts he gives the ball back each game! 7 TDs to 5 ints! What a guy!
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Tank44 posted:Interesting that Wilson had the most amount of drives per that section of the list. Pretty good defense plus an offense that puts together a bunch of 3 and outs leads to a lot of possessions.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:Pretty good defense plus an offense that puts together a bunch of 3 and outs leads to a lot of possessions. Also no RB to speak of. code:
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Coldforge posted:Also no RB to speak of. This is why hawks fans are optimistic. The run game pretty much cannot get worse and despite all that bullshit the team was still 9-7 Looking forward to a 7-9 or 9-7 season. Should be fun to see a new team coalescing. Gonna 4 yard curl our way down the field. Also that schottenhiemer thing about being good at running even when they know you are running is how the team talks about most things. Plenty of talk how the defense doesn't do anything crazy scheme wise just was good even though people knew what they were doing We'll see.if that holds true for this next Seahawks.defense but I'm excited for the season and possibly to be done watching football in 3-5 years if current NFL trends continue and my conscience grows
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For the record, that adds up to 997 yards; 6 RBs put together couldn't even get to 1000 yards for an entire season. If Russell hadn't played so bad in December (imo because he was pressing too much, it seemed almost reactive to the buzz he was getting about being the team's entire offense) we'd probably be talking about him getting snubbed for MVP e: I mean seriously, that's the RB equivalent of the Browns QB hydra
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