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RareAcumen posted:Now do one where it's full of eyes. Nah, it's pretty old. NES and arcade games were often infamously hard to get more play and/or cash out of pretty limited memory, so some people kind of got to assuming that was what made the good ones good. Sometimes it leads to things like Dark Souls, which up the challenge in interesting ways to force deeper, more considered engagement. Other times... less so.
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Regalingualius posted:I don’t know if it’s just because OFS has been glazing over the villain team’s dialogue, but... Have we even gotten any hints about WHY they’ve been doing everything we’ve seen so far? normal ecoterrorists probably wouldn't hook their pokemon up to a machine and use it for terrorisms
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Radio Free Kobold posted:normal ecoterrorists probably wouldn't hook their pokemon up to a machine and use it for terrorisms To paraphrase the immortal philosopher Van Pelt: "They can if they're stupid!"
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Radio Free Kobold posted:normal ecoterrorists probably wouldn't hook their pokemon up to a machine and use it for terrorisms Considering some of them are dumb enough to invade research labs and release the lab mice into the wild nearby... (as has actually happened IRL)
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May 30, 2018 14:11
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Radio Free Kobold posted:normal ecoterrorists probably wouldn't hook their pokemon up to a machine and use it for terrorisms I can't blame Reborn here if it goes with the ecoterrorist approach because the last time we had those, they tried to literally flood and scorch their region because MORE WATER/MORE LAND. God, Archie and Maxie were dumb. The former especially, Hoenn has enough water already.
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May 30, 2018 14:31
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OFS, people are starting to contact me elsewhere regarding my comment a couple pages ago about being able to remove the level caps and seeing if it makes Julia any less tedious, or at least defeatable by conventional means. That is something I should be able to do, but obviously it's up to you to let me post something like that.
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Yeah sure have at it, it'll be interesting to see alternate takes on some of these boss trainer battle thingies.
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poo poo wrong thread
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Aerdan posted:Considering some of them are dumb enough to invade research labs and release the lab mice into the wild nearby... (as has actually happened IRL) yeah, a european Animal Ecoterrorist group did that with a mink farm, a good chunk of the minks ended their lives under the wheels of cars, others scattered into the wilderness and ate the already endangered voles. Same for PETA and some of their members trying to force their pets - including obligate carnivores like cats to go vegans Extremists never think about the consequences of their actions, only the 'righteousness' of the initial act.
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May 30, 2018 15:45
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ChaseSP posted:I can only imagine teleporting in Shadowrun ripping the soul and body apart, ending up with a comatose/enraged indiscriminate killer and a left over remnant where they were. At the least.
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chiasaur11 posted:Nah, it's pretty old. NES and arcade games were often infamously hard to get more play and/or cash out of pretty limited memory, so some people kind of got to assuming that was what made the good ones good. Sometimes it leads to things like Dark Souls, which up the challenge in interesting ways to force deeper, more considered engagement. that and it's the developers who tested the games, so they already knew all the little tricks, so they didn't realize how harder it would be for people going in blind.
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Azza Bamboo posted:Pokemon Noire From a bit back, but play it straight and stick to proper Noir tropes, with a little wink and a nod, you'd actually have a fun little game. Like even the choice of Pokemon is played straight. Make the pokemon professor a tall drink of water offering you salvation in a pokeball instead of a shot glass, that sort of thing. PMush Perfect posted:Wrong thread. Good post, but wrong thread. Considering Reborn it might not be.
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ChaseSP posted:I can only imagine teleporting in Shadowrun ripping the soul and body apart, ending up with a comatose/enraged indiscriminate killer and a left over remnant where they were. At the least. This post got me thinking, I'm shocked Reborn hasn't had a transporter malfunction kill someone, or implied one happened. It seems so easy.
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May 30, 2018 20:50
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:This post got me thinking, I'm shocked Reborn hasn't had a transporter malfunction kill someone, or implied one happened. Even better - Human-Pokemon hybrids a'la The Fly e: or would that just result in Sonic characters?
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Zanzibar Ham posted:Even better - Human-Pokemon hybrids a'la The Fly mainline pokemon already did that 
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rannum posted:mainline pokemon already did that Oh yeah, I forgot. The PC guy who turned into a slowpoke or something?
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Zanzibar Ham posted:Even better - Human-Pokemon hybrids a'la The Fly rannum posted:mainline pokemon already did that
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Poor Bill, truly a misunderstood trailblazer. You gotta wonder why his research never comes up again?
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Ritznit posted:Poor Bill, truly a misunderstood trailblazer. You gotta wonder why his research never comes up again? Well, his research into boxes is still vital for Pokemon Trainers everywhere, even if his UI was horrendous and someone else had to fix it for him, and it got several upgrades by other people to make it not horribly tedious to use. The Pokemon fusion thing...I'm sure someone out there is working on it. Only, not as an accident this time.
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Blaze Dragon posted:Well, his research into boxes is still vital for Pokemon Trainers everywhere, even if his UI was horrendous and someone else had to fix it for him, and it got several upgrades by other people to make it not horribly tedious to use. In gen 2 his research also lead to time travel
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Blaze Dragon posted:The Pokemon fusion thing...I'm sure someone out there is working on it. Only, not as an accident this time. rannum posted:In gen 2 his research also lead to time travel
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After way more wrestling than should have been needed, I’ve managed to rip the entire stupid level gating system out of Reborn. I mean, it’s still ostensibly there, but I’ve told it to accept any number of badges, including zero badges, as though you have all 18. I wanted to just remove the disobedience check entirely, but it’s apparently so badly coded that I would have to reimplement obedience checking by hand, otherwise your active pokemon is unable to attack. Anyway, onto the reason I’ve done this. With the traditional level grinding method of defeating gym leaders available again, it’s time to see if brute force can defeat Julia. Problem is, I’m not used to dealing with gym leaders that have 6 pokemon at level 15+, so I’m going to have to guess at what is reasonable to bring against that.  This seems reasonable. No TMs or stat boosting items, just power leveling until the gym leader is (hopefully) beaten into submission, as is tradition. The resulting battle is actually uninteresting, as I completely steamroll Julia. Only her Geodude and Electrode can withstand a Level 31 STAB Flame Wheel, but I’m also not convinced it’s feasible to grind up to that level this early in the game. I’ll need to try something else. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PjhIi3btRQ (lovely Gym Leader music replaced with the Johto Gym Leader remix by ZameJack) Level 25 for Quilava turns out to be the exact tipping point for winning against Julia. With her switching out to give me free hits, Quilava lives exactly long enough to get a double KO with Electrode to win the battle. Level 26 Quilava seems to be able to defeat Julia with a sliver of HP left. But let’s dig a little deeper. I can change the encounter charts for the game, so why not put in some of the pokemon that you might normally have around this time? Like this Level 17 Geodude: https://youtu.be/p7CLC33x-D4 It can almost solo Julia and might be able to with some luck. It feels like an actual solution to the problem of “having 6 electric pokemon”. Let’s try something else. https://youtu.be/efhOwxzqdVU Since we see an Absol in the opening cutscene, I’ve decided it’s fair to use one here. Why? Double Team. With evasion boosts, there’s nothing they can do against a hungry Absol. You might have noticed that in all three videos, one of the Voltorbs and the Electrode both cause “aftermath” damage when you KO them. I can only assume this was added solely to gently caress with the player. I’ll mess around with PULSE Tangrowth at some point, and probably update every couple of “boss” fights. RyuHimora fucked around with this message at 00:04 on May 31, 2018 |
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I mean, Aftermath IS the Voltorb line’s canon Hidden Ability. It just also helps it’s an annoying chunk of damage the Reborn developers could impose.
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Here's one thing I can honestly say Reborn does right that Uranium hosed up: They didn't gently caress with the battle UI. I mean, when you have this: Versus this:  WHY DOES THE EXP BAR LOOK LIKE A LIFEBAR ASDLAG Also, no loving beeping when your active Pokemon is low on health. I know I'm dying, I can read the screen. RyuHimora posted:Like this Level 17 Geodude: RyuHimora posted:It can almost solo Julia and might be able to with some luck. It feels like an actual solution to the problem of “having 6 electric pokemon”. Let’s try something else.
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Commander Keene posted:Neither of these videos work for me. Weird. I think I fixed it.
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RyuHimora posted:Weird. I think I fixed it. nope!
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Leraika posted:nope! ...it's working for me, even when I'm logged out of YT. Huh. I guess I'll replace them with embeds and hope that works? Edit: nevermind, made them normal clickable URLs. RyuHimora fucked around with this message at 00:04 on May 31, 2018 |
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Leraika posted:nope! They all worked for me... 
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They're working now, at least. Maybe my computer was overcome by foul magicks or a lovely connection or something.
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Jeff Vogel's Kickstarter campaign made me think about Geneforge again, and how it does a more mature/'gritty' story about magical critters and their handlers fighting each other infinitely better. I mean, this is just embarrassing on all levels.
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This is another one of those LPs that makes me feel like I could make a better Essentials game in six months while drunk than this. I want to say "but I have better things to do with my time", but most of my free time these days has been spent sitting on my couch playing an Emerald randomizer. (I have a Normal/Dragon Wooper named Mr. Twister. He is a glass cannon but he learned Dragon Dance at level 12 and I love him very much.  )
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Robindaybird posted:yeah, a european Animal Ecoterrorist group did that with a mink farm, a good chunk of the minks ended their lives under the wheels of cars, others scattered into the wilderness and ate the already endangered voles. Same for PETA and some of their members trying to force their pets - including obligate carnivores like cats to go vegans
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Zereth posted:PETA just outright kills a lot of animals, too. Better dead than having to be under human control.  Shame the dipshits can't actually benefit the world and apply that to themselves.
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You know, looking at all the talk about BST and whatnot makes me think there's totally a way to do all of this poo poo that isn't garbage. It'd just require work. Like, I run D&D games wherein an understanding of 'Spell Levels' is totally a thing by NPCs (especially wizards who would test that rigorously poo poo to figure it out) but how they understand the world internally is a bit different from how we do. That's the key; let them have that understanding as they would logically derive it from existing in that world. So what you do, right, is you take all of the existing stat totals and redo them based on a new scale. Say 1 to 100ish~? And a guide that explains the numbers are based on the absolute worst in that 'stat' and the absolute best. Then use those as the '1' and '100' value and place existing Pokemon between them. Take Speed, for example, with Shuckle as the lowest value and... Ninjask as the highest, since including Deoxys seems a bit weird. Shuckle is their '1' and Ninjask their '100' with something like, hm... without doing too much detailed math, Beedrill would sit at about 50 on that scale. It'd still be kinda helpful for a player to see some of the values and it'd make more sense in-universe as a legitimate field of study that these people could be talking about. Actual flavour and fluff that makes it seem like they're trying to do something sorta unique rather than the immersion breaking mess of porting in actual Pokemon stats. But that would be Then again, maybe someone did do exactly that once upon a time considering in-game you can see your own Pokemon's stats, but that might be gameplay/story segregation since nobody usually talks about the actual numerical values.
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Radio Free Kobold posted:or instead of a numerical value you could make one of those funky star diagrams. one point on a geometric shape for each of the stats, each stat ranked S+/S/A/B/C/D/E, with corresponding visual representation on the diagram.
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Nah, I'm really fine with the way essentials handles IV/EV display. Eff that obfuscation poo poo. Just don't incorporate it into the narrative.
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ChrisBTY posted:Nah, I'm really fine with the way essentials handles IV/EV display. I don't think anyone's complaining about the UI properly showing you numbers, because that's something that isn't directly connected to the narrative, it's something that exists entirely for the sake of gameplay. The problem is, as you said, how this is incorporated into the narrative. Saying it as if it was the most normal thing in the world in-game destroys immersion and is just awkward in general.
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Bacchante posted:So what you do, right, is you take all of the existing stat totals and redo them based on a new scale. Say 1 to 100ish~? And a guide that explains the numbers are based on the absolute worst in that 'stat' and the absolute best. Then use those as the '1' and '100' value and place existing Pokemon between them. Take Speed, for example, with Shuckle as the lowest value and... Ninjask as the highest, since including Deoxys seems a bit weird. Shuckle is their '1' and Ninjask their '100' with something like, hm... without doing too much detailed math, Beedrill would sit at about 50 on that scale. Ironically one of the books in the school is Ninjask's highest stat values, like what they are at level 100 with evs/ivs/nature. Its text is literally: quote:"Study notes: Ninjask Stat Caps"
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