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How much money do you spend on this game?
This poll is closed.
Thar she blows ($300/mo.) 9 5.52%
We got our hooks in 'em ($100-$300/mo.) 11 6.75%
They's taking the bait! ($20-100/mo.) 25 15.34%
Toss 'em back in the sea. (F2P - $20/mo.) 118 72.39%
Total: 163 votes
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Dana Crysalis
Jun 27, 2007
the title-less

Ugato posted:

Double post because they did make a good point over on Reddit: keep some Marshal Glove moogles (even if they’re just 5% ones) for when you get blank moogles. They’re important to TDH builds which are the highest damage options for post-7* builds, and the gloves are still almost always BIS pieces to this day in JP. So they’re a pretty high priority for those blanks, which will be pretty rare, and Elfreeda basically only exists for her TMR, so UoC tickets on her seems kind of a waste.

Honestly at this point I keep all moogles unless it's a time-limited moogle of a COMPLETELY worthless TM.

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KDdidit
Mar 2, 2007



Grimey Drawer
*Glares at 100% Freyvia’s Needle Moogle that’s been taunting me for a year*

Ugato
Apr 9, 2009

We're not?
Yeah I just meant for virtually anyone. I’ve got several 100%s saved because I have the space for them, but even if you’re tight on space this is something worth considering keeping. Odds are pretty good you’ll use them for a long time and be happy with them.

But I think the biggest point is to plan as though you’ll be putting them into blanks such that you be sure to have 2 or 4 gloves because 1) you’re unlikely to ever get a chance like this again and 2) like I said, this is one of the best if not the best TM to use a blank for. Elfreeda is a really unimpressive 6* and 7* and her stmr is pretty unimpressive for an stmr, too (50% tdh, 30%hp/def/spr).

Ugato fucked around with this message at 03:48 on May 31, 2018

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
Lipstick Apathy

KDdidit posted:

*Glares at 100% Freyvia’s Needle Moogle that’s been taunting me for a year*

You just... gotta let it go.

I did, and then I drew two Fryevias.

Like, not at once.

I'm never gonna draw Arenea till I ditch her 100% Moogle, myself. See, it's a clever way of shrinking the 5* base pool...

hagie
Apr 6, 2004

All sensitivity has long ago atrophied

KDdidit posted:

*Glares at 100% Freyvia’s Needle Moogle that’s been taunting me for a year*

I tossed enough Fry needles to equip 5 Frys.


I now have 5 Frys. 2 of which have been TMRd the hardway. The 3rd is half way.

BGrifter
Mar 16, 2007

Winner of Something Awful PS5 thread's Posting Excellence Award June 2022

Congratulations!
Figured I’d take a run at a Cloud on the step up banner since I have two Elfreedas.

Had 15k when I started and did a half lap that got me a second copy of Ace and nothing else. :suicide:

Ground out the remaining 10k this week. 4th pull was another pile of trash. 5th pull had two Rainbows!

Elfreeda #3+4.

Welp.

BDawg
May 19, 2004

In Full Stereo Symphony
Data dump shows they fixed Merc Ramza with a 100% provoke.

Reberta is tbd. Her hits was changed to 8 and Mystic Thrust is AoE and can lead to 75% imperils. Her jump damage was also increased.

Dana Crysalis
Jun 27, 2007
the title-less

BDawg posted:

Data dump shows they fixed Merc Ramza with a 100% provoke.

Reberta is tbd. Her hits was changed to 8 and Mystic Thrust is AoE and can lead to 75% imperils. Her jump damage was also increased.

"fixed". I will admit that he is now a really good tank... if you are willing to deal with a passive cover that could screw up your magic tank and cause you to wipe.

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010



The only way his passive cover will screw you is if you don't have the taunt up AND it triggers on the same turn the enemy is doing a wipe magic aoe.

If you don't have a basch to magic tank for you then M. Ramza is a better tank than wilhelm.

Dana Crysalis
Jun 27, 2007
the title-less

Cao Ni Ma posted:

The only way his passive cover will screw you is if you don't have the taunt up AND it triggers on the same turn the enemy is doing a wipe magic aoe.

If you don't have a basch to magic tank for you then M. Ramza is a better tank than wilhelm.

If enemy does AoE physical there is a chance he will decide to cover the magic tank. if enemy does an AoE magic on that same turn, guess what, the magic tank can't cover now, you are dead.

Tengames
Oct 29, 2008


Dana Crysalis posted:

If enemy does AoE physical there is a chance he will decide to cover the magic tank. if enemy does an AoE magic on that same turn, guess what, the magic tank can't cover now, you are dead.

Iirc cover checks do each party member in order so you can just put the magic tank in the 5th slot to reduce the chance of merc ramza covering them

Dana Crysalis
Jun 27, 2007
the title-less

Tengames posted:

Iirc cover checks do each party member in order so you can just put the magic tank in the 5th slot to reduce the chance of merc ramza covering them

Reduce is not eliminate. People have been screwed by the simple AoE Cover not even proccing and that's 75% chance per other person. There's no point in risking ANOTHER number roll when you can just use any number of provoking people instead that don't have passive cover. (Also I have had passive cover ruin trial attempts before, so no thank you)

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010



Merc Ramza is comparable to Wilhelm right now and better in the case you don't have a breaker except in the event that the boss needs a magic tank, also has aoe physical attacks he uses that phys aoe before his magic one and you whiff on proccing the cover on 3 previous units and succeed in proccing it on the magic tank (1% chance)

In the case Bellow, Ramza has such high chance of triggering his cover that it actually decreases the chance of him covering someone at the end of the team. WoL is 10 times as likely to cover someone on the fifth spot than M.Ramza.

Cao Ni Ma fucked around with this message at 18:05 on May 31, 2018

hagie
Apr 6, 2004

All sensitivity has long ago atrophied
I use Chow and WoL together often, and have been having issues in the last 2 weeks with WoL’s cover triggering on occasion.

In fact it tends to happen more on some Sheraton runs I was doing. Not sure what other tanking options I should consider with out a Wilhelm or Basch or whatever.

Ghostnuke
Sep 21, 2005

Throw this in a pot, add some broth, a potato? Baby you got a stew going!


For Sheratan you should absolutely use Noctis instead of wol

Ugato
Apr 9, 2009

We're not?
For non-5* options, Ozetta is a fine 4* provoke tank. Also Cagnazzo.

PaybackJack
May 21, 2003

You'll hit your head and say: 'Boy, how stupid could I have been. A moron could've figured this out. I must be a real dimwit. A pathetic nimnal. A wretched idiotic excuse for a human being for not having figured these simple puzzles out in the first place...As usual, you've been a real pantload!
I don't really see Ramza's breaks as being that great. I mean the modifier is nice but you'll typically want to break the same turn you'll also want to be provoking so I see those as conflicting skills. I ran into this problem a few times when I was using WoL and is why I used WoL and Wilhelm together because Wilhelm would provoke and WoL could break; this stayed true when I upgraded from WoL to Basch. Not to mention that he needs to perform a rotation of blade of justice -> mind/weapon break so it's not an on demand 60% break and requires a setup turn. It does last for 6 turns but that's going to get real annoying against an enemy that dispels itself, not to mention it's only ST.

Generally speaking, you're going to want a breaker who can break more than just the offensive stats, so yeah, not that great.

I see Ramza and not really competition to Wilhelm in that he's more a Wilhelm for magic fights. Since as I mention I already feel like his breaks are conflicting with his provoke, his assortment of skills and passives really makes him more useful in fights where you see ST Magic attacks, which are comparably less. I'm not saying he can't still soak ST ATK hits but wanting to use Robes& Light Shields, in addition to some innate elemental resistance and charm immunity just tells me he's there for fights against MAG enemies.

The thing I'm not seeing is what M.Ramza brings to the table that beats Wilhelm's LB. Even a couple pieces of LB gear you can easily fire that thing off every 3 turns while still provoking 100%. And LOL if anyone tries to argue that you can just give Ramza POD 153 to make up for not having Wilhelm's LB.

Ugato
Apr 9, 2009

We're not?
Beowulf is really neat, though I think his primary role is going to be LB spam to keep up those 74% breaks.

They did introduce some kinda neat (combinations of) mechanics -

Ultima has a 19-turn CD of remove all enemy buffs and ally debuffs.

Beowulf has a dispel/re-break ability which is a really awesome thing to have on your breaker. He also has really high on-demand breaks and imperils that “decrease over time” - he applies 3 debuffs, the strongest of which only lasts 1 turn, second strongest 2 turns and the weakest 3 turns. So if you want, you can spam the ability to keep the strongest version up. Ultima has some similar breaks as well.

And Beowulf shows that they know they just need big numbers to make hybrids viable.

quote:

(Available Turn 6) 5 Turn Cooldown: 5400% AoE 12 Hit (12 Fr) Hybrid Attack

The only thing that really makes me sad about him is that he has extremely little direct damage. It fits his flavor, because he’s incredibly good at debuffing and applying ailments. His LB is one of the two damage abilities he has and it’s definitely his best ability. It is a 3200% multiplier at max rank and is a single hit/songle target with 74% full break. So he’s a breaker/pseudo finisher with massive AoE burst potential.

Ugato fucked around with this message at 19:24 on May 31, 2018

PaybackJack
May 21, 2003

You'll hit your head and say: 'Boy, how stupid could I have been. A moron could've figured this out. I must be a real dimwit. A pathetic nimnal. A wretched idiotic excuse for a human being for not having figured these simple puzzles out in the first place...As usual, you've been a real pantload!

Ugato posted:

:words about JP content:

Question about Cooldown abilites; I'm assuming they don't refresh when the unit dies or can you do some gimmicks like we have in GE where you can abuse reraise to get an ability back?

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
Lipstick Apathy
Reberta now chains with Sephiroth and Prompto?

Cool, I'll take it.

EDIT: Cerius has 100% AOE Fire/Ice/Lightning resist spells how, as well as an upgraded Live You All style regen ability with 70% dark resistance and petrify immunity.

Global exclusive, nice. 3* Esper trials just got easier.

2ND EDIT: The Moogle can now chain with Tidus, Camille, and 7* Lightning, kupo.

Still not a great unit, kupo.

CAPT. Rainbowbeard fucked around with this message at 22:03 on May 31, 2018

hagie
Apr 6, 2004

All sensitivity has long ago atrophied

Ghostnuke posted:

For Sheratan you should absolutely use Noctis instead of wol

Well I already did it twice using Chow/WoL so it’s ok

Ugato
Apr 9, 2009

We're not?

PaybackJack posted:

Question about Cooldown abilites; I'm assuming they don't refresh when the unit dies or can you do some gimmicks like we have in GE where you can abuse reraise to get an ability back?

I haven’t actually played with it any to find out. Cooldown stuff came out with 7* and I hadn’t played since after the Reagan banner. I’m kind of leaning toward gimmicks being a possibility just because they don’t seem to retain untouchable internal data. Even things like “enable Point Blank Warp Strike” are buffs on the unit with all the positives and negatives that comes with. If I get time I’ll see if I can fish up a 7* to test with. Because it’s equally notable that the cooldown mechanic is an entirely new mechanic. So they may have developed a new system to manage it rather than trying to force adapt it to their own.

Infected
Oct 17, 2012

Salt Incarnate


That new storypart sure is a thing.

We had CG Rain(Hyou) all along

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
Lipstick Apathy
Well, I don't have Wilhelm, but I do have Mercenary Ramza, so... I think my choice is clear.

Now to get enough crysts...

Echophonic
Sep 16, 2005

ha;lp
Gun Saliva
Decided to finally put my collection of items and units into FFBE Equip. That's a pretty dang useful tool. Turns out I can actually make a 10k HP Wilhelm and I didn't realize it.

It's got an option for custom build requirements. Is there a spot where people put carry builds to use with it?

Echophonic fucked around with this message at 23:42 on May 31, 2018

hamburgers in pockets
Jun 18, 2005

Yeah, that's blood. It'll get better before the show.
Just theorycrafting before I take the time to put together a party and try, but is it at all possible to do a solo carry for Ramuh? I just finished Shiva earlier but Ramuh looks a bit harder since he has a 120% lightning imperil and he also chains it with another attack. I'm figuring if that's not possible I'll just have to use barthundaga and Lovely Guard with a provoke tank and just sit in for the long haul.

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
Lipstick Apathy

hamburgers in pockets posted:

Just theorycrafting before I take the time to put together a party and try, but is it at all possible to do a solo carry for Ramuh? I just finished Shiva earlier but Ramuh looks a bit harder since he has a 120% lightning imperil and he also chains it with another attack. I'm figuring if that's not possible I'll just have to use barthundaga and Lovely Guard with a provoke tank and just sit in for the long haul.

Don't forget about Cerius's 100% Lightning resist enhancements. Pretty cheap.

There are also a couple of good Chows floating around here.

Probably need to take Bushido Freedom along or some other way to get around the debuffs.

Skyridge
Jan 1, 2011

hamburgers in pockets posted:

Just theorycrafting before I take the time to put together a party and try, but is it at all possible to do a solo carry for Ramuh? I just finished Shiva earlier but Ramuh looks a bit harder since he has a 120% lightning imperil and he also chains it with another attack. I'm figuring if that's not possible I'll just have to use barthundaga and Lovely Guard with a provoke tank and just sit in for the long haul.

They would need 100% evade, 220% lightning resist, and paralyze immunity. Not sure if that build is possible on anyone.

Infected
Oct 17, 2012

Salt Incarnate


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSXLWzF-P0U

I guess that's one way to do it.

PDQ Law
Aug 4, 2011

hamburgers in pockets posted:

Just theorycrafting before I take the time to put together a party and try, but is it at all possible to do a solo carry for Ramuh? I just finished Shiva earlier but Ramuh looks a bit harder since he has a 120% lightning imperil and he also chains it with another attack. I'm figuring if that's not possible I'll just have to use barthundaga and Lovely Guard with a provoke tank and just sit in for the long haul.

I think it's also theoretically possible with a T.Terra geared for 100% evasion, 180% lightning resist, and paralyze immunity. All the builds I looked at require Basch's TMR shield and at least 1 RoL. If you can build it, it could work with a 3 turn cycle of Maduin Guard - Magical Activation - dual Chaos Waves.
I don't know if the Osmose would drain her dry with her SPR buff up, but my builds had room for an MP refresh materia, which should work if you sync the 0 MP dual Chaos Waves to the turn after the Osmose.

Trojan Kaiju
Feb 13, 2012


When fusing a base-5* into a 7* for the STMR, you don't get the special moogles from them, right? So if I had 2 100% TMR units and 1 non-TMR'd, I would want to use the non-TMR'd as the material and the other TMR'd as STMR progress?

Ugato
Apr 9, 2009

We're not?

Trojan Kaiju posted:

When fusing a base-5* into a 7* for the STMR, you don't get the special moogles from them, right? So if I had 2 100% TMR units and 1 non-TMR'd, I would want to use the non-TMR'd as the material and the other TMR'd as STMR progress?

It doesn’t matter. Breaking down a unit with sub-100% TMR for a 7* awakening mat will give you a container with their progress on the TMR, just like fusing them for stmr progress.

When people are recommending using your max-TMR’d unit for breaking down for 7* awakening it’s because you can still macro farm the unit. But once you get the container you can only get it with moogles.

E: the thing that’s different with STMR fusing versus breaking down for an awakening mat is that STMR fuses also give you a 50% all moogle (100% total for a full stmr).

Ugato fucked around with this message at 03:14 on Jun 1, 2018

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
Lipstick Apathy

Trojan Kaiju posted:

When fusing a base-5* into a 7* for the STMR, you don't get the special moogles from them, right? So if I had 2 100% TMR units and 1 non-TMR'd, I would want to use the non-TMR'd as the material and the other TMR'd as STMR progress?

I would like clarification as well.

EDIT: Already clarified.

BDawg
May 19, 2004

In Full Stereo Symphony
So there’s no reason for me to try and finish TMRing units I’m going to fuse for 7* if I already have 1 TMR copy?

Ugato
Apr 9, 2009

We're not?
If you probably won’t use them very often, no, not really.

Oh if you mean for just 7* you can use the 100%’d one. Yeah that’s true. Just keep in mind that no matter what you probably still want to awaken the unit you have fully potted if that’s applicable.

Ugato fucked around with this message at 03:45 on Jun 1, 2018

PaybackJack
May 21, 2003

You'll hit your head and say: 'Boy, how stupid could I have been. A moron could've figured this out. I must be a real dimwit. A pathetic nimnal. A wretched idiotic excuse for a human being for not having figured these simple puzzles out in the first place...As usual, you've been a real pantload!
So no 5* ticket this month which I guess means they were too cheap to give out one during the anniversary event and from login rewards.

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
Lipstick Apathy

PaybackJack posted:

So no 5* ticket this month which I guess means they were too cheap to give out one during the anniversary event and from login rewards.

Do we know what the anniversary bonuses are?

Ugato
Apr 9, 2009

We're not?
Bizarro luck continues - daily came down a Rainbow: Wilhelm.

Cartoon Man
Jan 31, 2004


They didn’t reveal much about the anniversary last year until fairly close to it. I’d expect the same.

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CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
Lipstick Apathy
I fed some tickets into the tank banner and now I don't need to enhance Mercenary Ramza anymore.

I need to enhance Wilhelm though.

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