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Sergio's last plans for FCA: Jeep and Ram become FCA's main brands worldwide, Fiat gets pulled from US and China, and an Alfa/Maserati merger is on the table.
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Hahaha holy poo poo Wheeee do you also go by The Sicilian by chance?
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May 31, 2018 05:02
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Is it too late for a couple sausage egg mc muffins and 2 hashbrowns? *Farts*
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May 31, 2018 05:02
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Only if you're in that piece of poo poo Car X.
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May 31, 2018 05:03
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I am in fact in my shameless consumer product.
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May 31, 2018 05:06
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Yeah but are you betraying your identification with it?
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May 31, 2018 05:07
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Godzilla07 posted:Sergio's last plans for FCA: Jeep and Ram become FCA's main brands worldwide, Fiat gets pulled from US and China, and an Alfa/Maserati merger is on the table. Ahh hahahaha dang, dang forever. No more Fiat in the USA, again. Still have the Renegade I guess 
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May 31, 2018 05:09
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I'll have you know I push my Scion to the limits every day and I'll be damned if i let some womens drive it
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May 31, 2018 06:20
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Wheeee posted:Yea that's the point thanks I wouldn’t say I was mad everybody rejected the SS, just dumbfounded. GM built the car Internet forums said they wanted and nobody bought it.
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May 31, 2018 06:56
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davebo posted:My version of the mythical brown wagon was a brightly colored fast RWD auto wagon that wasn't an expensive luxury car, and the car industry saw fit to finally give me almost exactly that with a liftback instead of a wagon. Dreams do come true if you complain enough on the internet for decades. The market for a non-luxury fast RWD Auto Wagon consists of approximately 47 people, 12 of which are on this forum.
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May 31, 2018 07:01
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Frond posted:GM built the car Internet forums said they wanted and nobody bought it.
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May 31, 2018 07:12
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Based on the conversations in various AI threads over the last several days, I've determined that the Focus RS is a terribly boring car that sounds exactly like a Pagani and will cause hearing damage if you drive it through a neighborhood at night. Also, can I get a Big Mac, a 3 pc chicken McNuggets, and a large rootbeer?
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May 31, 2018 07:39
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Frond posted:I wouldn’t say I was mad everybody rejected the SS, just dumbfounded. GM built the car Internet forums said they wanted and nobody bought it. No manual first 2 model years, V8 only made 415 hp when it was making 420-460 in other Chevy’s, $50,000, looks boring, knees too pointy
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May 31, 2018 09:06
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KakerMix posted:Ahh hahahaha dang, dang forever. No more Fiat in the USA, again. Still have the Renegade I guess The article also taught me that Chrysler literally only makes two vehicles anymore: the 300 and the Pacifica. Oh and that one of Fiat’s two cars, the 500, hasn’t had a significant upgrade in more than a decade.  I knew things were bad there but holy poo poo just mercy kill the brands, commit to update or just kill the 500, roll the Pacifica under something else and make the 300 a trim package for Dodge or something. They’re burning money just marketing different brands.
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May 31, 2018 11:53
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Anal Del Raytheon posted:No manual first 2 model years, V8 only made 415 hp when it was making 420-460 in other Chevy’s, $50,000, looks boring, knees too pointy I don't see why it cost so much. My dad looked at a G8 and went with a Cadillac CTS 'cause it was cheaper and way nicer. It seemed like an amazing car but not at that price. Maybe at 30-35k.
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May 31, 2018 13:45
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If only the SS would have held on long enough for Trump to enter office. Then it wouldn't have had to worry about competition. https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/31/trump-reportedly-poised-to-ban-german-luxury-carmakers-in-the-us.html quote:Trump reportedly told French President Emmanuel Macron last month that he would maintain his trade policy with the aim of stopping Mercedes-Benz models from driving down Fifth Avenue in New York.
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May 31, 2018 13:57
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bull3964 posted:If only the SS would have held on long enough for Trump to enter office. Then it wouldn't have had to worry about competition. If the president bans German cars, what manufacturers fill the gap? People aren't going to buy Cadillacs instead.
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May 31, 2018 13:59
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Godzilla07 posted:Sergio's last plans for FCA: Jeep and Ram become FCA's main brands worldwide, Fiat gets pulled from US and China, and an Alfa/Maserati merger is on the table. Focusing on heap and dirge even more in the US seems like a good idea, actually. FCA might not be a laughingstock in a few years here. Thought the Alfa push a year or two ago was weird. Remember there was an Alfa Superbowl ad and everything.
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May 31, 2018 14:01
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Twerk from Home posted:If the president bans German cars, what manufacturers fill the gap? People aren't going to buy Cadillacs instead. This is a matter of national security! You sound like a subversive.
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May 31, 2018 14:04
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Ripoff posted:The article also taught me that Chrysler literally only makes two vehicles anymore: the 300 and the the Pacifica. 
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May 31, 2018 14:05
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Whose lovely parachute account is Wheee anyway?
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May 31, 2018 14:27
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Remember the Chrysler Aspen? Lmao. What a mismanaged brand
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May 31, 2018 14:45
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the problem with the SS is you were literally insane to spend more than $40k new on any GM car that isnt a Corvette
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May 31, 2018 14:48
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http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/390009-trump-to-impose-total-ban-on-luxury-german-cars-reportquote:
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May 31, 2018 15:30
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So... I guess it's a good time to buy up some Porsches, Mercedes, and BMW's. Those used prices are going to soar when you can't buy new anymore. I would have expected something like the luxury tax that was introduced into BC but targeted to imports if you were dead set on propping up domestic luxury brands, but an outright ban just seems needlessly over the top. What a strange world we live in now.
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May 31, 2018 15:36
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CornHolio posted:I wonder if it would include those made in the US. You know deep in your heart that he has no concept of that at all. Not that it matters if he did. This has nothing to do with trade policy and everything to do with being slighted by the German leadership. Every time he sees a German car he thinks of Angela Merkel and gets filled with white hot rage.
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May 31, 2018 15:37
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Twerk from Home posted:If the president bans German cars, what manufacturers fill the gap? People aren't going to buy Cadillacs instead. French cars! Prez Trump loves Macron so much he'll ban the Germans to make it easier for PSA to reenter the US market. Monkey Fracas posted:Focusing on heap and dirge even more in the US seems like a good idea, actually. FCA might not be a laughingstock in a few years here. "Straight fam." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktHO4cgqa3A Giulia/Stelvio volumes seem similar to JLR products in those respective segments, so they seem alright.
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Incidentally, consumers haven't seen the impact of those steel and aluminum tariffs yet, but you will. My company is a volume consumer of steel, producing components for the automotive industry. Our steel costs went from around $.35/lb to more than $.60/lb as soon as the announcement was made. This may be good for American steel mills, but it's bad for American manufacturing (especially the automotive industry) and American consumers. Edit: Some quick and dirty math based on our cost increases (which may not be representative of the industry) shows that this could cost US manufacturing ~$6 billion this year, and that's just steel. Disgruntled Bovine fucked around with this message at 16:50 on May 31, 2018 |
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May 31, 2018 16:23
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Anal Del Raytheon posted:looks boring Wow, look at this M5's super exciting styling. I sure wouldn't mistake it for a run of the mill 525i; 
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May 31, 2018 16:49
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Frond posted:I wouldn’t say I was mad everybody rejected the SS, just dumbfounded. GM built the car Internet forums said they wanted and nobody bought it. GM threw the internet fanbois a bone by dressing up a car destined for the gallows as an obligation to the Aussies. What GM really wanted is for those same fanbois to either buy a Silverado or Corvette.
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May 31, 2018 17:20
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I thought we were done arguing about the demise of rwd domestics, sedans/ family 4drs, commodore SS, the australian car industry and all that poo poo back in 2015? Suck it up, you lost that to germany. Go build trucks and coupes until you lose that to japan; SE asia is already lost.  'murica
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May 31, 2018 17:40
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Frond posted:Wow, look at this M5's super exciting styling. I sure wouldn't mistake it for a run of the mill 525i; What's your point? Why do you think a 30 year old BMW is relevant to anything
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Fo3 posted:I thought we were done arguing about the demise of rwd domestics, sedans/ family 4drs, commodore SS, the australian car industry and all that poo poo back in 2015? America will always have the minivan. 
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GM gave you a decently styled sleeper (like the earlier M5s, such as the E28 I posted.)You turned around and said it looked boring and not distinctive enough. They also gave you a reasonably priced big LS powered sedan. You then were angry it wasn’t priced like an Impala. I personally think the market for hi-po non luxury sedans is non-existent and internet enthusiasts are retards with unrealistic expectations. Most people who said they wanted the SS probably were better served by the Camaro. There is no winning with you people.
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Godzilla07 posted:Sergio's last plans for FCA: Jeep and Ram become FCA's main brands worldwide, Fiat gets pulled from US and China, and an Alfa/Maserati merger is on the table. Who could have seen that coming.
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May 31, 2018 19:09
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Wistful of Dollars posted:America will always have the minivan. Seriously I know you had the mazda 5 and the honda odyssey. But go ask renault, toyota, mazda, nissan and mitsubishi. All the ones you probably didn't even get due to chicken tax, but those ones were that main ones that the rest of the world has. Fo3 fucked around with this message at 19:15 on May 31, 2018 |
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May 31, 2018 19:13
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Frond posted:I personally think the market for hi-po non luxury sedans is non-existent and internet enthusiasts are retards with unrealistic expectations. I not only think you are wrong but I think it's a largely untapped market. The desire for used performance luxury cars like M5s is an example, and I think a lot of people would be willing to sacrifice the quality of the leather and the rain-sensing wipers for a warranty. Dodge sells a ton of hi-po non-luxury sedans. Seems every other car I see on the road is a Charger. What is the competition against a RWD, V8 sedan at the 30-35k price point?
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CornHolio posted:I not only think you are wrong but I think it's a largely untapped market. The desire for used performance luxury cars like M5s is an example, and I think a lot of people would be willing to sacrifice the quality of the leather and the rain-sensing wipers for a warranty. Those are pretty much all V6's though.
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opengl128 posted:Those are pretty much all V6's though. True, but that's how a car like that has to be sold. Just like the Camaro and Mustang. There may be more V6 Chargers out there but there are plenty being sold with the hemi.
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opengl128 posted:Those are pretty much all V6's though. A Dodge Charger R/T with the V8 starts at $35,495 according to their website. And the cheaper V6s still make over 300hp, though they're heavy as poo poo and that's merely 'adequate' at that point. Although a G8 GT originally MSRP'd at $31,555 in '09 which with inflation is about $37,500 so that's really not that far off... an Impala starts at $28k these days, about what a V6 Charger starts at. I think it's time for a new Impala SS 
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