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Zore posted:Giovanni as E4 is kinda I mean in a neo team rocket "DAD COME HOME WE MISS YOU" plot yeah it doesn't make sense but I kind of like the idea of Giovanni reforming after however long.
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# ? May 31, 2018 19:29 |
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The best part of this is going through the information that has been on the internet for almost two decades from old Fansites of people who said they went to the convention and saw stuff and seeing what is real and what is bullshit. Someone lied about there being an Electabuzz evolution called Eleking in the demo and that information has literally been on the internet for almost 20 years.
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# ? May 31, 2018 19:29 |
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Beta Suicune is pretty spooky looking. Something about the proportions+grudge hair.
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# ? May 31, 2018 19:31 |
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Zore posted:Giovanni as E4 is kinda I wonder how Bruno keeps making the cut. E4 members come and go, but Bruno will always be there.
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# ? May 31, 2018 19:34 |
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Going over the spreadsheet, I see quite a few mons that originally had different typings:
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# ? May 31, 2018 19:34 |
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I like that lion thingy just before the lickitung-evo looking thing and also the lickitung-evo-thing and also all of them also I wish there was a proto-wobbuffet but oh well e: also slowbro's rear end the pokemon e2: umbreon being poison is cool, now they have no excuses not to complete the set
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# ? May 31, 2018 19:35 |
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I would have liked Tangela a lot more. Anchor Shark and Mandible Eel are also good I guess the Shelldor won the fight for slowpoke's tail or maybe that's why you could buy them in GS
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# ? May 31, 2018 19:36 |
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oddium posted:i wish iwata had crunched enough data down to add the baby meowth. and the cat hoppip Really now that I know what could have been I have no choice but to curse his name
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# ? May 31, 2018 19:37 |
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oddium posted:i wish iwata had crunched enough data down to add the baby meowth. and the cat hoppip Just kick out some of the other Gen 2 Pokemon that weren't really interesting. Quilfish was definitely cuttable after its evolution was also cut. Idk where Dunsparce showed up in develpoment, but that one could have also not been needed.
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# ? May 31, 2018 19:37 |
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Before and after:
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# ? May 31, 2018 19:41 |
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oh my gosh I just noticed the voodoo doll one
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# ? May 31, 2018 19:41 |
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Xelkelvos posted:Just kick out some of the other Gen 2 Pokemon that weren't really interesting. Quilfish was definitely cuttable after its evolution was also cut. Idk where Dunsparce showed up in develpoment, but that one could have also not been needed. Dunsparce has a weird little following but I don't think anyone would miss Qwilfish.
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# ? May 31, 2018 19:41 |
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also I would miss Qwilfish e: oh there is a proto-wobb, I thought maybe that could be one if you looked at it with wobb in mind
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# ? May 31, 2018 19:42 |
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McDragon posted:oh my gosh I just noticed the voodoo doll one Fun fact: it evolves at every level starting from level 1 because it wants to stop suffering and you have to actively press B to keep it from evolving. Dang, Game Freak.
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# ? May 31, 2018 19:45 |
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McDragon posted:I like that lion thingy just before the lickitung-evo looking thing You mean Porygon2?
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# ? May 31, 2018 19:45 |
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McDragon posted:oh there is a proto-wobb, I thought maybe that could be one if you looked at it with wobb in mind That's actually the Girafarig pre-evo. But the artist theorized that it could eventually have inspired Wobbuffet's design.
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# ? May 31, 2018 19:46 |
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less laughter posted:That's actually the Girafarig pre-evo. But the artist theorized that it could eventually have inspired Wobbuffet's design. Oh that's neat, thanks for that. I guess they both have the weird tail which could be the actual creature thing going on. e: this leak of old stuff is just as cool as a leak of new, it rules
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# ? May 31, 2018 19:49 |
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less laughter posted:That's actually the Girafarig pre-evo. But the artist theorized that it could eventually have inspired Wobbuffet's design. I always thought it was strange how Wobbuffet and Girafarig had a similar 2nd head gimmick
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# ? May 31, 2018 19:50 |
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less laughter posted:Fun fact: it evolves at every level starting from level 1 because it wants to stop suffering and you have to actively press B to keep it from evolving. Dang, Game Freak. Holy poo poo, you aren't making stuff up are you?
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# ? May 31, 2018 19:52 |
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Dehry posted:Misty was listed as an Elite Four trainer in the prototype. That kinda explains her more radical redesign in Jhoto. They wanted a more mature look as an elite trainer but then dumped her back into the Cerulean gym. I think this is just speculation based on the spreadsheet's layout and not necessarily the final plans. At the bottom, there's two additional Elite Four placeholders for a male and female trainer.
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# ? May 31, 2018 19:53 |
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Electric Phantasm posted:Holy poo poo, you aren't making stuff up are you? No it's 100% real.
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# ? May 31, 2018 19:55 |
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It’s interesting how of the starters only Chikorita and its final form were finalized at the time. That proto-Bayleef is hilarious.
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# ? May 31, 2018 19:57 |
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I love Cyndaquil, Quilava and Typhlosion as if they were my own children but firebear, especially the middle evo, is a true friend lost to time
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# ? May 31, 2018 19:59 |
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I legit wonder, given how much seemingly they've mined from this over the years, if its release is making them do any reevaluations of Gen 8 Pokes
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# ? May 31, 2018 20:04 |
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Of course the only quadruped Fire starter is the beta one. Can't wait for the English patch, gonna play this game.
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# ? May 31, 2018 20:04 |
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less laughter posted:No it's 100% real. Are they sure it's not just a level placeholder set at 1?
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# ? May 31, 2018 20:05 |
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less laughter posted:No it's 100% real. I wonder if there is some trade off or if Game Freak is being cruel. Might as well throw in a sidequest where you rescue one that has an everstone stuck to it.
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# ? May 31, 2018 20:06 |
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that's definitely the sort of thing an edgy fan game would do but I don't believe you on this one
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# ? May 31, 2018 20:10 |
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I would sell myself into slavery for beta murkrow to become a regional forme
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# ? May 31, 2018 20:10 |
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I like the bellcat and a few of them are so silly it's fun to see. Dog with insane anime hair stands out for sure. Dynablade chicks are fun too. Also why are people saying porygon 2 is the balloon animal thing? Makes me think of Castform more than porygon
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# ? May 31, 2018 20:12 |
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:Also why are people saying porygon 2 is the balloon animal thing? Because its name is Porygon2 and it evolves from Porygon.
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# ? May 31, 2018 20:12 |
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Xelkelvos posted:Are they sure it's not just a level placeholder set at 1? It's the only one that has an evolution at level 1; every other level-evolved 'mon has more normal numbers.
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# ? May 31, 2018 20:13 |
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I will rescue babby grimer from purgatory, even if it costs me my life
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# ? May 31, 2018 20:16 |
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Jarogue posted:I would have liked Tangela a lot more. we got loving cheated by not getting these designs
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# ? May 31, 2018 20:17 |
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:I like the bellcat and a few of them are so silly it's fun to see. Dog with insane anime hair stands out for sure. Dynablade chicks are fun too. Because it’s Porygon2 in the data. Apparently it’s a donut mascot in Japan. People are thinking that they were going to make up for the fact that Porygon caused seizures by turning him into the donut mascot.
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# ? May 31, 2018 20:17 |
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Beta Suicune:
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# ? May 31, 2018 20:20 |
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GonSmithe posted:Because it’s Porygon2 in the data. Apparently it’s a donut mascot in Japan. People are thinking that they were going to make up for the fact that Porygon caused seizures by turning him into the donut mascot. Pikachu caused the seizures, don’t do my man porygon wrong
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# ? May 31, 2018 20:20 |
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I'm theorizing that Game Freak leaked this, based on connecting the following three dots: 1. They pulled back the curtain on pokemon design in that interview and set of pictures just a few weeks ago 2. An anonymous user just so happened to have a demo that's been lost for 20 years 3. This has tickled my nostalgia enough to make me buy Crystal on VC
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# ? May 31, 2018 20:20 |
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I've always been incredibly curious about Pokémon concept art, betas, and scrapped designs, but very little of it ever came out. Between the four unveiled from Red and Green and this leak, there's finally a bonanza of new info! This helps explain some of the creative process. I wish the bell cats had made it in, but I'm glad they cut all these baby forms. It's also a very good thing that Raikou, Entei, and Suicune didn't turn out to be sparkledogs. I think the most amusing thing from this leak is the fact that Sneasel once looked like an actual weasel.
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# ? May 31, 2018 20:26 |
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Eox posted:I'm theorizing that Game Freak leaked this, based on connecting the following three dots: I'm sorry friend. Im currently walled at Crystal's E4 cause my team is all sub forty thanks to the horrific leveling curve. I might just grind for the legendary puppers, throw one of my duped master balls at ho oh and use it and lugia when I can get it to bulldoze the game.
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