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s.i.r.e. posted:Some of the stuff they wanted to add would probably make the game have an AO rating which is a death sentence for your title because most shops and stores (Steam included) won't stock AO rated titles. Sorry, are you referring to Steam, the platform where literal sex games are put? Where a game, like House Party, where the entire purpose is to get women into bed to have sex with them, or get oral sex, with explicit sex scenes and nudity, can exist?
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May 31, 2018 21:03
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FirstAidKite posted:What even is the plot of Agony Generate media attention by being the living embodiment of 
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May 31, 2018 21:06
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FirstAidKite posted:What even is the plot of Agony Take the 2nd layer of Hell from EA's Dante's Inferno -- remove combat, make it a lovely-held together semi-puzzle corridor game. Also you have no memory and want to gently caress a wax woman, so you are most likely some dude from Montana that died being choked out by his real doll.
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May 31, 2018 21:09
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Morpheus posted:Sorry, are you referring to Steam, the platform where literal sex games are put? Where a game, like House Party, where the entire purpose is to get women into bed to have sex with them, or get oral sex, with explicit sex scenes and nudity, can exist? Holy poo poo is House Party a messed up game. Still, since it's generally censored unless you use an off site patch it technically passes muster? Still, it's a total rape sim
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May 31, 2018 21:11
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DreamShipWrecked posted:Holy poo poo is House Party a messed up game. Still, since it's generally censored unless you use an off site patch it technically passes muster? Still, it's a total rape sim I don't think that's the case. Game Grumps are playing it and they have to explicitly turn on the "censor nudity" option. Also yes it's a total trashbag gaslight simulator.
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May 31, 2018 21:20
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Morpheus posted:I don't think that's the case. Game Grumps are playing it and they have to explicitly turn on the "censor nudity" option. I don't remember that too well, so I'm probably wrong. Somewhat related, Agony has me reflecting back on past edgelord games and it makes me hate myself because I'm actually going to defend Hatred. At the time it was The Big Edge Game, although now it's almost quaint with an IRL shooting every day. The story was stupid and the protagonist was beyond a parody into author self insert, but the design and the gameplay was actually not bad. It took the idea that it has, ie mass shooting sim, and put it in a system that was built around that central theme, and it was a okay indie top down shooter with a grimdark aesthetic. I didnt actually buy it, fuuuuck that, but I did try it and it was okay. But Agony doesn't seem to even bother to do anything like that. It's just bloody edge for the sake of it, with a "game" designed to carry you from point to point. It's absurd that anyone actually made this thing.
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May 31, 2018 21:58
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Discendo Vox posted:Hatred is on steam. It's AO. Valve just sticks an age gate on the store page, which they already use for any number of games. I've now read the claims by the devs that "leaving this content uncensored would result in the game being banned and us, Madmind Studio, being sued." It's bullshit. They're doing this for attention. AO sex games though are another thing I believe, Valve's even apparently even cracking down on devs that offer uncensored patches for their games or some poo poo? I don't know. FirstAidKite posted:What even is the plot of Agony You end up in hell (I'm guessing you have just died, the main character states he only remembers falling into hell and nothing else) and you're tasked with finding the Red Goddess because.... well, that I don't know. I think it's because she can end the suffering you'll endure in hell? Maybe? That's all I picked up after 2 hours.
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May 31, 2018 22:11
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DreamShipWrecked posted:I don't remember that too well, so I'm probably wrong. The great bad joke about Hatred is that it's like 6 levels long and only the first one is decent and adheres to its theme. Every level after that is an absolute slog with impossibly balanced difficulty and terrible level design. Throw a dart at a top down shooter in the past 3 years and you'll find one better than Hatred, guaranteed.
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May 31, 2018 22:19
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I've pretty much come to expect every loud proclamation of "WE WERE CENSORED GUYS  " to be bullshit by this point, either A: It's just generally untrue to garner "FREEEEE SPEEEEECH" types shouting/money or B: They explicitly made things in their game knowing it would be too much and would likely force someone's hand, after which they could also garner "FREEEEE SPEEEEECH" types shouting/money.
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May 31, 2018 22:20
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al-azad posted:The great bad joke about Hatred is that it's like 6 levels long and only the first one is decent and adheres to its theme. Every level after that is an absolute slog with impossibly balanced difficulty and terrible level design. I only remember the opening honestly. But my point isn't that it was a good game because it really wasn't, it's that they had a theme and they built mechanics around that theme, for better or for worse. Actually getting in fire fights sucked but you cleared levels by killing civilians, doing executions gave back health, and so on. The mechanics worked with the theme to make the game. It sounds like Agony did the opposite, it more wants to be a house of horrors where the entirety of the mechanics exist just to drag you from one gore pit to another, following fetch quests and such. That sounds like nothing but it's actually a pretty big deal since a lot of horror games are really lovely to actually play, sometimes intentionally. Like, look at Outlast 1 and 2. They had basically the same gameplay, but 1 was fairly good while 2 utterly sucked. Why? I think it's because in the first one the camera and hiding mechanics worked with the story. You were a reporter, sure, but you went in with your lovely little camera to film things. You got in way over your head, but it makes sense for you to only have your camera to rely on, and also why you are constantly filming. 2 didnt have that, you just crash into the woods and instead of using a flashlight like a normal person you use this camera that you had with you because Reasons. Never mind that the night vision works waaaaay worse in open areas. Never mind that there really isn't a reason to be constantly filming now. You only do it because the first one had it, except now the theme has changed and you didn't change along with the theme. I mean poo poo, it would have been easy. You are in the swamp so batteries are going to be rare, but what about a film camera? Use the flash to map out rooms in a second, but don't use it when enemies are near or they will see! But sometimes you cant help using it, so you have to remember the map while using your ears to move around the monster! It would also make all the corpses scarier, since they then become a jump scare. E. It would fit the themes better because you moved from an industrial setting to a rural one, with the implication that tech would be much lower and less reliable. It should create this feeling of rustic vulnerability that you wouldn't get with a high tech piece of equipment like a digital video camera. Torches could work too but they are a bit harder to design around. It's just very important to understand why some things work better than others even if they are poo poo in this genre. CuddleCryptid fucked around with this message at 22:41 on May 31, 2018 |
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May 31, 2018 22:33
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s.i.r.e. posted:Some of the stuff they wanted to add would probably make the game have an AO rating which is a death sentence for your title because most shops and stores (Steam included) won't stock AO rated titles. lol what a pile of badly made edgy poo poo
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May 31, 2018 22:44
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That sucks because I honestly would have enjoyed the previously-mentioned Dante's Inferno type tour through hell sort of thing rather than... this.
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May 31, 2018 22:50
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for all the flak that 'walking simulators' catch for whatever dumb reason i'd vastly prefer a game where one walks through hell and looks at weird stuff to the hamfisted excuses for gameplay that agony goes with
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May 31, 2018 22:52
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Lifeglug posted:Agony released a demo to Kickstarter backers which is all over YouTube if you want more of a look at it. Personally I just found it too edgy and trying too hard to be gross that it just seemed comical. Glad to see Agony lived up to my expectations. Scorn's demo was top notch though so that one needs to hurry up.
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May 31, 2018 22:53
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CommunityEdition posted:Judging by the comments, I suspect that video represents a lot of lost sales from CHUDs who were only in it for the weird porn to begin with. lol. People actually get off to this?
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May 31, 2018 22:55
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TheKingslayer posted:lol. People actually get off to this? My man, there's worse.
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May 31, 2018 22:57
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s.i.r.e. posted:Some of the stuff they wanted to add would probably make the game have an AO rating which is a death sentence for your title because most shops and stores (Steam included) won't stock AO rated titles. An average wank, nothing to write home about. Seriously though this is their culmination of evil? Birth scenes? These people have issues, and the more effective horror game would be some sort of an interactive documentary on the making of this game where you had to deal with the personalities of the people on the dev team. Edit: I have Hatred in my Steam account, from a humble bundle. I ought to get around to playing it just out of academic curiosity or something. Cactus fucked around with this message at 23:17 on May 31, 2018 |
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May 31, 2018 23:09
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Cactus posted:An average wank, nothing to write home about. I unironically want to see a bunch of CHUDs come together to make a horror game where you are a man navigating a hellscape full of women doing horrible things like having high power jobs and loving people other than you. E. Also loving the havok physics engine that would have been impressive in 2000 CuddleCryptid fucked around with this message at 23:21 on May 31, 2018 |
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May 31, 2018 23:15
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DreamShipWrecked posted:I unironically want to see a bunch of CHUDs come together to make a horror game where you are a man navigating a hellscape full of women doing horrible things like having high power jobs and loving people other than you. They would call it "Cuck" and the irony would be lost on them.
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May 31, 2018 23:23
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Cactus posted:Edit: I have Hatred in my Steam account, from a humble bundle. I ought to get around to playing it just out of academic curiosity or something. You could do worse than give it a spin. It's basically inspired by the first Postal and plays alright for a top-down shooter. But it absolutely spikes in difficulty after the first stage because of bad level and game design. Also, I bought Agony simply because I find any concepts of a literal Hell to be fascinating and I figure the worst I did here was give a lovely developer (who slid under the controversy radar because of Active Shooter) some money.
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May 31, 2018 23:39
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I'm sad the new Fear Effect game sucks because the original is the only game I can think of where Chinese hell is a central concept and the entire final act takes place there.
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May 31, 2018 23:47
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al-azad posted:I'm sad the new Fear Effect game sucks because the original is the only game I can think of where Chinese hell is a central concept and the entire final act takes place there. I remember that game. It was dark as gently caress for 9 year old me
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May 31, 2018 23:55
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There's a new Fear Effect out? I only see something about a remake that's coming out at some point in the future.
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al-azad posted:I'm sad the new Fear Effect game sucks because the original is the only game I can think of where Chinese hell is a central concept and the entire final act takes place there. A walking sim of a bunch of different cultures idea of hell would be rad as gently caress
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Jun 1, 2018 00:13
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It's just the Outlast 2 thing. This game is so [SCARY/PROVOCATIVE], we [MADE A KICKSTARTER FOR DIAPERS/COULDN'T EVEN SHOW THE RAPE CONTENT]!
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Jun 1, 2018 00:28
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Glad I didn't buy Agony, Christ. And I actually enjoyed Dante's Inferno. However, it sure is a look into the minds of the developers - I think they might have somewhat of a fear of women and anything peripherally involved with them, like babies and childbirth. Or they have a big fetish. Either way it's a bit more than I wanted to know about them.
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Len posted:There's a new Fear Effect out? I only see something about a remake that's coming out at some point in the future. Fear Effect Sedna which looks like a boring single character Commandos. I'll try it when it's cheap because I do like Fear Effect.
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LegionAreI posted:However, it sure is a look into the minds of the developers - I think they might have somewhat of a fear of women and anything peripherally involved with them, like babies and childbirth. It's based on Catholic Hell. That's going to be a thing in there.
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LegionAreI posted:Glad I didn't buy Agony, Christ. And I actually enjoyed Dante's Inferno. It's probably more like, "Man, how far can we push the envelope? Let's have you gently caress a demon and then she stabs herself in the stomach to kill the fetus! DARK!"
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Kokoro Wish posted:It's based on Catholic Hell. That's going to be a thing in there. This feels like too easy of a cover honestly, like they can say that as much as they like but I'm still not gonna take them at face value.
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rudecyrus posted:It's probably more like, "Man, how far can we push the envelope? Let's have you gently caress a demon and then she stabs herself in the stomach to kill the fetus! DARK!" Except the baby is still moving and she cuddles it so I don't know what the gently caress Honestly, she should have eaten it. Just chowed down. That would have actually been a little nauseating at least.
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K just watched that Dropbox clip, holy lol. It's hard to believe that was made by folks older than 14. Whhhhhyy? Is there a market for that?
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The creators of Hatred are tied to anti-immigrant (read:virulently racist) and revanchist groups in Poland. Please don't give them money.s.i.r.e. posted:AO sex games though are another thing I believe, Valve's even apparently even cracking down on devs that offer uncensored patches for their games or some poo poo? I don't know. As far as I can tell, absolutely none of this is the case. A group of anime porn games (not specifically ones with uncensor patches) claimed they were being taken down by valve a week or so ago, but that never actually transpired and there was a bunch of weirdness about their claims.
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Jun 1, 2018 01:43
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Even Agony's logo has the ol' vagina dentata in it, it's not really very subtle what they're going for.
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Discendo Vox posted:As far as I can tell, absolutely none of this is the case. A group of anime porn games (not specifically ones with uncensor patches) claimed they were being taken down by valve a week or so ago, but that never actually transpired and there was a bunch of weirdness about their claims. Nnnnnot entirely true. About a dozen separate studios claimed to have been notified their games, all of which were dating or romance sim types with a Western slant, would be taken down if not "changed to reflect Steam's guidelines for adult material" with no information on what exactly needed to be changed, or why their games no longer met the guidelines when they were supposed to have been perfectly fine before. After about a week of a LOT of people trying to get Steam to comment on anything, the devs started saying they were getting new emails saying their games would be "re-reviewed". It's also not the first time Steam has been very wishy washy and inconsistent with regards to adult content in games.
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That's one part of the "there was a bunch of weirdness about their claims" bit. Regardless, it wasn't over uncensor patches and doesn't explain or coincide with the Agony dev's claims.
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Jun 1, 2018 02:25
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Man Fear Effect isn't on the PSN ):
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did anyone quote the fatal review yet?quote:Oh, they want to be all evil and shocking and crap. God, how pathetically they tried. I mean, imagine opening a door to find your mother and sister raping each other with pink strap-ons. And you then realize that you've never seen their bare asses before, because you're pretty sure you would have remembered the swastikas tattooed there. And upon noticing you, they grin wickedly and give you the finger in unison.
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Cultist Simulator is pretty good, it is very much a plate spinning game and if you are playing safe it is a very slow but steady game, but its entertaining for what it is. I definitely need to write down some of the game logic because there is a whole cycle of transforming stuff into the right kind of stuff by mixing A with B so B can become C and so on.
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