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i've only ever seen the notion of ~are sovereignty~ used to support real nationalistic/xenophobic bullshit
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national sovereignty allowed antidemocratic things like the capitalist putsch attempts in hungary and czechoslovakia, sovereignty is nationalist by nature.
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Willie Tomg posted:volkerball deserves a lot of poo poo but i respect him for just out and out saying "syria has no sovereignty" that was real cool to just say outright, like that. too many people who definitely believe that tiptoe around the issue in a gross pantomime of diplomacy. nah. gently caress that nation. it looked at me funny. I'll give the guy some respect when he starts appying that poo poo consistently as opposed to only the neocon target du jour.
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HorrificExistence posted:you are a liberal idealist HorrificExistence posted:true democracy
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R. Guyovich posted:i remember when i read time magazine in middle school (lol) and they posted a picture of al-sadr in an iraq story with black cleric robes and narrowed eyebrows clearly trying to make him look evil and my only thought was "this guy appears to be rad as poo poo" i saw that or a similar picture of him in high school and it really positively impacted me at that age to see someone i resembled in such a position of power
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HorrificExistence posted:Sovereignty is a reactionary as gently caress idea that basically only works if you are a liberal idealist. Nation-states are a fictional entity dreamed up to support capital, they have no rights to hold their population. The idea that authority is bound to territory and nationality makes world revolution impossible. and that's why it is good and just and proper that the US claims the right to rule literally the entire world without regard for silly things like "the objections of local governments" or "the objections of people who don't want to die for US military profits"
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if everyone else were to act like there is no such thing as sovereignty, a high ideal, while the united states runs roughshod over the world with military bases and drones, then all you do is validate an imperial hegemony that’s already happened. you’re making an anarchist argument in a world where embracing that theoretical logic will destroy any notion of local power you’re a dumbass horrificexistence it’s not an argument over the philosophical legitimacy of the concept of the nation state and national identity, it’s a view of how power currently works in a world of constant aggressive intervention and domination by an empire
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May 27, 2018 21:05
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The powerful will always just ignore your notion of "local power" anyway. Ideas alone cannot bring the hegemon down, instead, we need decadence and a critical mass of widows and orphans.
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I'll take the decadence and the widows.
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HorrificExistence posted:The powerful will always just ignore your notion of "local power" anyway. Ideas alone cannot bring the hegemon down, instead, we need decadence and a critical mass of widows and orphans. you’re really loving dumb and awful
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Yandat posted:you’re really loving dumb and awful okay, whats your plan to destroy amerika then?
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HorrificExistence posted:okay, whats your plan to destroy amerika then? voting for donald trump again in 2020
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Lol, fishmech is in MEE thread. HorrificExistence posted:okay, whats your plan to destroy amerika then? Hand you over to the Lion of Syria.
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https://twitter.com/BarzanSadiq/status/1002062574861643779 pick your side twitter leftists. The far right dictator or the communist revolutionaries.
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HorrificExistence posted:national sovereignty allowed antidemocratic things like the capitalist putsch attempts in hungary and czechoslovakia, sovereignty is nationalist by nature. National sovereignty is important because people like HorrificExistence exist.
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Fishmech's logic is sort of like if someone just completely ignored all information and context in the world aside from solid 100% clear facts. Like if you took the folks who claim stuff isn't racism unless it's super explicit and applied their logic to literally everything.
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Ytlaya posted:Fishmech's logic is sort of like if someone just completely ignored all information and context in the world aside from solid 100% clear facts. Like if you took the folks who claim stuff isn't racism unless it's super explicit and applied their logic to literally everything. he's the most obtuse and ethically void person you can talk to on this lovely website, like interacting with a romulan with severe autism
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Yandat posted:he's the most obtuse and ethically void person you can talk to on this lovely website, like interacting with a romulan with severe autism Having just finished DS9. 
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HorrificExistence posted:https://twitter.com/BarzanSadiq/status/1002062574861643779 Enough! I side with.... Evropa
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Ytlaya posted:Fishmech's logic is sort of like if someone just completely ignored all information and context in the world aside from solid 100% clear facts. Like if you took the folks who claim stuff isn't racism unless it's super explicit and applied their logic to literally everything. lol if you think fishmech cares about the facts as opposed to his personal preconceptions.
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imvho ban all posters from posting in any Middle East discussion threads on the forums except Fishmech, HorrificExistence, Volkerball, a resurrected Human Grand Prix, and that one guy whose gimmick is fakeposting cartoonish support as like a Kurdish Marxist. Watch them all engage in futile, farcical, and incomprehensible chaos in a hell simulation modeled after the Syrian Civil War.
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https://www.channel4.com/news/inside-ghouta-as-syrian-government-fully-controls-damascus-for-the-first-time-in-seven-years BBC is starting to get more honest about the rebels now that it's clear the government is going to win the war. Interviews with people in East Ghouta all say the same thing, they had lots of foreign fighters, tortured people who wouldn't be pressed to fight for them, and killed anyone that tried to leave.
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That's not the bbc
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Jose posted:That's not the bbc It's real confusing when you have both a Channel 4 and a BBC 4
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:https://www.channel4.com/news/inside-ghouta-as-syrian-government-fully-controls-damascus-for-the-first-time-in-seven-years they'll never take back Idlib, there are literally turkish troops deployed there. Syria's still gonna end up partitioning.
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I could see Assad trading Idlib for Turkish annexation of Afrin.
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Also, for "Turkish troops deployed there" to mean anything they actually have to shoot at government forces.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:I could see Assad trading Idlib for Turkish annexation of Afrin. Dont alot of turkmen live in idlib?
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Lawman 0 posted:Dont alot of turkmen live in idlib? Yeah, It's why they've kept arming them. Turks hate arabs too, so it is much more politically popular to arm another Turkic people.
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Lawman 0 posted:Dont alot of turkmen live in idlib? They could just as easily live in Afrin, since all the Arab refugees Turkey is trying to settle there don't like stealing Kurdish homes.
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HorrificExistence posted:Yeah, It's why they've kept arming them. Turks hate arabs too, so it is much more politically popular to arm another Turkic people. Maybe they should just split it I dunno
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HorrificExistence posted:Yeah, It's why they've kept arming them. Turks hate arabs too, so it is much more politically popular to arm another Turkic people. Real Turkic peoples are borat, not the fake rear end pretenders in turkey
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:They could just as easily live in Afrin, since all the Arab refugees Turkey is trying to settle there don't like stealing Kurdish homes. That's probably the endgame isn't it? 
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paul_soccer10 posted:Real Turkic peoples are borat, not the fake rear end pretenders in turkey very nice
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fishmech has been given a month and ban lol
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*every demagogue from every country flies into singapore for a HUGE party*
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:*every demagogue from every country flies into singapore for a HUGE party* https://twitter.com/HillelNeuer/status/1001479842087530501
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What the gently caress
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