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Peachfart
Jan 21, 2017

Vargatron posted:

w-what???

Hey the monitor works on another laptop. Now I have to hear a professor have a meltdown because he restarted his computer and it closed all 40 of the e-mails he had open on the taskbar.

Anybody else want to work in academic IT with me???

Not knowing printer_goon.txt is shameful.

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Vargatron
Apr 19, 2008

MRAZZLE DAZZLE


Darchangel posted:

Yeah, if the company I'm contracted to doesn't pick me up, I guess I'll look at the ACA stuff. I pay about $200/wk for my family between the health care coverage (Blue Cross/Blue Shield) that DOESN'T cover hospitalization or specialists, and supplemental insurance that pays out in the event of hospital/ER visits. On the plus side, the BC/BS coverage is $0 copays for non-hospital or specialist visits and prescriptions. This is fine for me, but my wife is starting to have some issues that require specialists and non-formulary drugs.
Pro-tip: don't get old. ("Just die already" seems to be the current mantra for health care.)


It's on the back, usually left side, just like on the iMac.


Not any more. They stopped with the Thunderbolt 2 Display in... 2017?


Tha gently caress? You sure you ain't talking about an iMac? Because they don't list any displays other than LG in their store.


He's giving you pointers on how to "turn it on" wink-wink, nudge-nudge.


Sure. How much and where, 'cuz I'm not moving for it.

Please help me identify whatever the hell this is:





There's no power button at all from what I can find and I've even felt around the whole bezel.


Peachfart posted:

Not knowing printer_goon.txt is shameful.

Please edify me.

Sepist
Dec 26, 2005

FUCK BITCHES, ROUTE PACKETS

Gravy Boat 2k
That's a voice activated one. Just say "power on mac"

Also gently caress Mac's, but didnt they used to turn on iMacs by pressing the apple key or some poo poo

Vargatron
Apr 19, 2008

MRAZZLE DAZZLE


Sepist posted:

That's a voice activated one. Just say "power on mac"

that didn't work, maybe the mic is turned off???

stevewm
May 10, 2005

Vargatron posted:

Please help me identify whatever the hell this is:





There's no power button at all from what I can find and I've even felt around the whole bezel.


Please edify me.

Weaponized Autism
Mar 26, 2006

All aboard the Gravy train!
Hair Elf
Ayy TLS 1.0 is out of compliance at the end of the month lets not work on this at all!

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


It’s a Thunderbolt Display, it only works with Macs. There’s no power button.

You can’t use it with a Mini DisplayPort output despite the connector being identical.

stevewm
May 10, 2005

Thanks Ants posted:

It’s a Thunderbolt Display, it only works with Macs. There’s no power button.

You can’t use it with a Mini DisplayPort output despite the connector being identical.

Oh wow... lol I thought that was a iMac... It looks exactly like one minus the SD card slot.

Vargatron
Apr 19, 2008

MRAZZLE DAZZLE


Yeah I've narrowed it down to a problem with the Mac desktop that the prof is using. I'm able to get display if I plug in a Macbook pro to it.

I swear I'm not an idiot it just baffles me why you would make a monitor that ostensibly has no way to test it's function without connecting it to something. Like I'd be fine if I got "no signal" or something like that.

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


Apple doesn't want want you to do any troubleshooting. They want you to bring it down to the Apple Store so they can sell you more stuff while you're waiting for it to get fixed. get told that you need a new one.

EoRaptor
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

stevewm posted:

Oh wow... lol I thought that was a iMac... It looks exactly like one minus the SD card slot.

If you open it up, it exactly is like one as well, just missing the cpu and memory. To do the thunderbolt passthrough with usb breakout turned out to be pretty complex, and there is a lot going on in there.

There's a reason Apple stopped developing them.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Yeah also the signal cable is loving captive because Apple are complete bastards.

There's no legitimate reason to make a 'pro' monitor without VESA.

Thanks Ants fucked around with this message at 19:33 on Jun 1, 2018

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

Vargatron posted:

Please help me identify whatever the hell this is:






A man who skips leg day.

Vargatron
Apr 19, 2008

MRAZZLE DAZZLE


Sickening posted:

A man who skips leg day.

Nah bruh, every day is squat day in the gym. It's all going to my rear end though.

EoRaptor
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Vargatron posted:

Nah bruh, every day is squat day in the gym. It's all going to my rear end though.

Front squats, widen your stance a bit. At the bottom of your rep, concentrate on pushing down on the floor, not up with your hips.

CrazyLittle
Sep 11, 2001





Clapping Larry

Proteus Jones posted:

Hey is that BGP thing re: Chinese Company v. Cloudflare still going on? I ask because I was using 1.1.1.1 and 1.0.0.1 for DNS at home and all of a sudden name resolution poo poo the bed. I switched over to Google’s DNS and all is well again.

1.0.0.0/8 is still APNIC, and 1.1.1.0/24 was delegated to Cloudflare (also 1.0.0.0/24). Of course it's still the exemplar addressing scheme in a lot of dumb tutorials so its use in the real world has always been on shaky ground.

https://bgpstream.com/event/138295
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17178905

wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?

Thanks Ants posted:

There's no legitimate reason to make a 'pro' monitor without VESA.
FTFY.

I guess maybe an exception could be made for the ultra-thin stuff like the LG wallpaper OLED which literally could not have a VESA mount without defeating the purpose, but anything that resembles a normal monitor and does not have the standard VESA holes is dogshit.

CrazyLittle
Sep 11, 2001





Clapping Larry

Thanks Ants posted:

Yeah also the signal cable is loving captive because Apple are complete bastards.

There's no legitimate reason to make a 'pro' monitor without VESA.

VIVO Adapter VESA Mount Kit for Apple iMac (Mid 2012 and Older Models!) LED Cinema, Apple Thunderbolt Display (STAND-V0AP)
by VIVO
Link: http://a.co/jlxg2hv

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


That hinge is mounted with 8 loving screws?

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





The Iron Rose posted:

Great questions guys, thank you!

the interview went well, in the sense that this went from a 50% salary bump to an over 100% salary bump. What the gently caress.

Not being the first to name a figure is uh, super important apparently.

Did you get the job offer? If so, that's an amazing salary bump. Congratulations!

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine

Internet Explorer posted:

Did you get the job offer? If so, that's an amazing salary bump. Congratulations!

Just make sure you don't tell your significant other!

Sepist
Dec 26, 2005

FUCK BITCHES, ROUTE PACKETS

Gravy Boat 2k
You tell her but tell her 30% less

lampey
Mar 27, 2012

The Iron Rose posted:

As a topic change, what are good interview questions to ask for a new position? Offer is pretty much sealed, but what are the sort of questions you ask, red flags y'all look for when switching positions?

Big red flags would be the interviewer asking you potential illegal questions like marital status or religion. Asking comfort questions like would you be comfortable with a predominantly male team. It sounds like you are past this. Also research the company to see if there are trends that are a problem and have an idea of the salary range and benefits.

Some of these you can research ahead of time but especially at larger companies the answers will depend on your specific role and manager. Any of these can be red flags, or they could be totally fine depending on your needs. It is easier to ask an open ended question and learn from their answer instead of asking a specific question that you really want answered. Always be positive. Don't ask why the last guy quit. Ask if it is a new position or if you are replacing someone. Ask to have them take you through a regular workday. Ask who will you be reporting to(and hopefully they are involved in the interview process.) Ask how is success measured at the company or what can you do to be a successful 'job title'. Ask about how on call rotation is handled or general expectations for work outside of normal hours. Then ask followup questions as relevant to your position and their answers. On call rotation specifics are more important for something like a site reliability engineer where you are expected to respond to and triage an issue within minutes.

MC Fruit Stripe
Nov 26, 2002

around and around we go

Thanks Ants posted:

It’s a Thunderbolt Display, it only works with Macs. There’s no power button.
I can not believe people use this company's products.

adorai
Nov 2, 2002

10/27/04 Never forget
Grimey Drawer

MC Fruit Stripe posted:

I can not believe people use this company's products.
How else would they advertise their superiority to the world?

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


Thanks Ants posted:

It’s a Thunderbolt Display, it only works with Macs. There’s no power button.

You can’t use it with a Mini DisplayPort output despite the connector being identical.

What he said. You *should* be able to use it with a Thunderbolt/Thunderbolt 2-equipped PC, if you can find one. I've not tried this, so YMMV.

stevewm posted:

Oh wow... lol I thought that was a iMac... It looks exactly like one minus the SD card slot.

The giveaway is the extra cable coming out of the back. That's the Thunderbolt and power-for-Macbook cable.
Other than that, they are almost identical, thanks to the built-in port replicator.
I was mistaken, though - I thought that they had a power button, but Thanks Ants is right. It's been over a year since I had one available.

The Fool posted:

Apple doesn't want want you to do any troubleshooting. They want you to bring it down to the Apple Store so they can sell you more stuff while you're waiting for it to get fixed. get told that you need a new one.

I actually like Apple, but I'm not going to argue or dispute this, because he's not wrong.

Thanks Ants posted:

Yeah also the signal cable is loving captive because Apple are complete bastards.

There's no legitimate reason to make a 'pro' monitor without VESA.
Not going to dispute that, either. Goddamned expensive, too. That was a $1000 monitor, though it is QHD. Still obscene.
A VESA mount is $20, BTW, if it uses the same foot as the iMac. There's a release that lets the leg swivel a bit further, which exposes screw to detach the leg, then you replace it with a mount.

CrazyLittle posted:

VIVO Adapter VESA Mount Kit for Apple iMac (Mid 2012 and Older Models!) LED Cinema, Apple Thunderbolt Display (STAND-V0AP)
by VIVO
Link: http://a.co/jlxg2hv
There you go.

Vargatron
Apr 19, 2008

MRAZZLE DAZZLE


Its $1000??? Jesus lord in heaven!

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


MC Fruit Stripe posted:

I can not believe people use this company's products.

To be fair, it and the computers are built like a brick house, and generally work for a long time. My personal 2012 MacBook Pro 15" is still chugging right along.
Also, some people like an OS that doesn't poo poo itself regularly, and aren't computer experts. And they're pretty.

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


Vargatron posted:

Its $1000??? Jesus lord in heaven!

Was. $999.99, but hasn't been made for more than a year.
edit: when I looked a year ago, there's really no replacement for it, either. You can replicate the display, but no one has a built-in dock like that. You have to get a Belkin, El Gato, or other Thunderbolt 2 dock.

Methanar
Sep 26, 2013

by the sex ghost
I wish I was popular enough that a line item on the design spec could be "gently caress the user". See also aws

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

MC Fruit Stripe posted:

I can not believe people use this company's products.

To be honest, there are things you should never buy from Apple. Monitors are one of them.

We used to include RAM too, but then the fuckers started soldering it to the board.

Corsair Pool Boy
Dec 17, 2004
College Slice

Krispy Wafer posted:

To be honest, there are things you should never buy from Apple. Monitors are one of them.

We used to include RAM too, but then the fuckers started soldering it to the board.

Don't Macs require EEC? I remember something a while back about problems with 'normal' RAM

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


I don’t remember ever needing ECC, but if you didn’t have exactly the right speed and latency you were going to have a bad time.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Don’t forget about the Cinema Display which is very similar but connects using Mini-DisplayPort and USB, you could use that with other computers if you wanted.

And you can charge your Mac with it! Very nice.

Another dumb thing about them is they look just like an iMac but if you put them side by side they don’t line up!

They were expensive but you can get them for like $300 used now. Remember this was way back in like 2010 when these came out, and there were actual Macs you could connect to them without an adapter.

Light years ahead.

LG makes the monitors now and they still don’t have power buttons but you can get power and video over a single USB-C cable. But at least with the 22” 4K model it has NO OTHER VIDEO INPUTS WTF

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:
The bigger question is why in the world you would get a 22" 4k monitor

PookBear
Nov 1, 2008

looking into babies first IT job, do I need to get a certification first?

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

45 ACP CURES NAZIS posted:

looking into babies first IT job, do I need to get a certification first?

I'm curious about this as well. I got hired without certs, but I feel like I lucked sacked into this one, because I'm a year out of finishing my BS in IT. Are you just doomed to having to do call center work/geek squad/frys if you have no prior work experience, no certs, and no degree?

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine
If you're looking for a first job an A+ and Network+ might be valuable signaling to employers in terms of getting them to look at your resume.

Additionally, if you study for them using the Meyers gold books you might accidentally learn something useful too? I still have my old one around somewhere and occasionally consult it.

adorai
Nov 2, 2002

10/27/04 Never forget
Grimey Drawer

45 ACP CURES NAZIS posted:

looking into babies first IT job, do I need to get a certification first?
As with everything, it depends. My last 3 hires have had no certifications, but for the ones with no experience, but I required two of them to get A+ certified within 6 months of being hired. I reimbursed them for the cost of the test plus a reasonable amount for study materials. It's not the cert itself that I really cared about, more the baseline knowledge they picked up while studying. Neither of them thought it was a waste of time afterward.

Now here is the most important part: all three of these hires were internal transfers. Two came from our call center and one is an intern I grabbed from our proof department. Being able to talk to their managers and eliminate that unknown value of whether they will be jerks is a really nice thing, especially for entry level positions which are customer service heavy. I probably would not hire someone with no certs, no experience, and no IT related degree off of the street, because there is always going to be interest in those positions from within my own organization.

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Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

The Iron Rose posted:

The bigger question is why in the world you would get a 22" 4k monitor

It's "Retina" at 1920x1080, and it gives you the option of scaling it up to 2560x1440 without taking up as much desk space as a 27" (which I also have an really like)

I just got it to play with, it was a package deal, and will probably sell/trade it in a few weeks.

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