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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:I was wrong. (not making fun of you) Devian666 posted:Of course the Minister responsible at the time is making excuses for being an idiot, and wasting huge amounts of public money. How does things play out when politicians make reasonable decisions based on cost-benefits analysis? How often do their opponents cry out "But the children!!!" and the voters turn on these decent politicians? Better to waste taxpayers money than risk yourself.
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John Smith posted:Is he at fault? Or is the true guilty party the voters who insist on absolute perfection in the real world? Yes, definitely at fault for a waste of over $100m as well as significant harm to the community. She was very focused on getting people off benefits which resulted in a massive surge in homelessness, and she's party to this problem. We'll see how it plays out but she's suffered a considerable loss of credibility and a lot of people are angry about it, including a core demographic that votes for her party. The housing issue was a major political problem that cost her party the recent election too. While there's a lot of bad with taxpayer money she's also unlikely to be a cabinet minister again so she'll probably never get the good money again.
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John Smith posted:I honour you for the above statement. Good job! If the politicians do lovely things it's the politicians' fault. If the politicians and media create an atmosphere where it's easier to elect lovely politicians then it's the politicians'abd media's fault. Fault and shittiness are not limited resources in politics, and they're not a zero sum game. If everyone is at fault then that doesn't mean the people with the actual individual influence and power to make meaningful, widespread changes are not at fault when they deliberately and maliciously hurt a lot of people for their own disproportionately small gain. And not holding politicians accountable for their actions is the exact opposite of incentivising non-lovely behaviour. e: countdown to John Smith trying to twist "Individuals in power should be held accountable for how they use this power" into a justification for bootstrap libertarianism and the for-profit prison system. Splicer fucked around with this message at 09:34 on Jun 1, 2018 |
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Devian666 posted:Yes, definitely at fault for a waste of over $100m as well as significant harm to the community. She was very focused on getting people off benefits which resulted in a massive surge in homelessness, and she's party to this problem. My point is that perhaps it is not wrongdoers that we should blame as the root cause, but those who bring about wrongdoers . Splicer posted:If the electorate elect lovely politicians, or elect non-lovely politicians and then incentivize them to act lovely, it's the electorate's fault. Splicer posted:If the politicians do lovely things it's the politicians' fault. Splicer posted:If the politicians and media create an atmosphere where it's easier to elect lovely politicians then it's the politicians'abd media's fault. Splicer posted:If everyone is at fault then that doesn't mean the people with the actual individual influence and power to make meaningful, widespread changes are not at fault when they deliberately and maliciously hurt a lot of people for their own disproportionately small gain. And not holding politicians accountable for their actions is the exact opposite of incentivising non-lovely behaviour. Splicer posted:e: countdown to John Smith trying to twist "Individuals in power should be held accountable for how they use this power" into a justification for bootstrap libertarianism and the for-profit prison system. Be the good that you preach and behave righteously yourself. I may preach extremism in personal responsibility, but I myself am the role model that I preach about.
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John Smith posted:
You are the most hackneyed of anime villains.
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Jun 1, 2018 09:56
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John Smith posted:Be the good that you preach and behave righteously yourself. I may preach extremism in personal responsibility, but I myself am the role model that I preach about.
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John Smith posted:Holy poo poo, yea. It is quite typical for the Chinese to throw an elaborate wake lasting multiple days. Once again, being the mercenary money-grubbing people that we are, money features heavily. You are supposed to give a cash gift as a gesture of your condolences (I am not sure if this is true for every single Chinese group though). One webcomic I read has a robot in the future burn a paper model of himself so that he can serve his late owner in the afterlife, and considers it a potential loophole into said afterlife given the question of robots having souls or not isn't yet settled.
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Space Gopher posted:Yoga in the generic sense is basically a Hindu philosophy/religious practice of self-improvement leading to enlightenment. If I'm paying that much for a white girl in her 20s to instruct me in yoga she'd better be able to actually levitate, or demonstrate at least one ability of Dhalsim's.
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Breetai posted:You are the most hackneyed of anime villains. While you are entirely entitled to so disagree, it is regrettable that you are so limited that non-alignment with your narrow worldview is considered as evil. Splicer posted:I was kind of expecting you use what I was saying out of context to imply that wealthy individuals with political influence and disenfranchised or poverty stricken individuals have equal levels of agency over their situations. If you don't believe this then I have misjudged you. We should be willing to defend our beliefs forthrightly. Particularly when the topic itself is misconduct. Ghost Leviathan posted:Hey, in Mexico they burn effigies of everything from money to cars to houses on the Day of the Dead, it's a fun way to honour the dead and an excuse to show off your arts and crafts projects. John Smith fucked around with this message at 12:12 on Jun 1, 2018 |
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John Smith posted:Immaterial. No excuses.
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Splicer posted:Wait who's being hypocritical I'm lost now. But then, I thought that this might not be true since I am assuming that she proactively made such claims. When in fact, I don't actually know much about NZ politics. Hence, I had edited it to misconduct.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/personalfinance/comments/8mt81a/i_have_lost_everything_trying_to_help_a_friend_do/ Hope this hasn’t been posted yet. quote:I have lost everything trying to help a friend. Do I file for bankruptcy? quote:Long story short, the friend won a settlement but needed to pay the IRS and Department of Revenue Recovery before his lawyer could write a check from the first disbursement. I was helping him with IRS and DRR payments that needed be made with a promise of reimbursement when the check came. I did what I did because I knew what getting the money would mean in the lives of his kids with special needs. I actually tutor his kids... quote:I haven't met the lawyer but I know his name and place of business. The only reason I haven't already talked to him is because my friend told me doing so would violate the NDA.
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It was already posted but it's great enough to read again.
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please knock Mom! posted:The guillotinee's eyes turn into crosses too early Not early enough if you ask me
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Krispy Wafer posted:Acting like an authority figure is almost like a video game God mode. If you project the right frequency, you can get away with a lot. Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Also, my same friend with all the guns just finished a renovation of his kitchen and a powder room in his house. It cost somewhere in the mid 20k range, took 8 months, and he did all the work himself.
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General Probe posted:It was already posted but it's great enough to read again. I really, really wish I could be there if/when he goes to the lawyers apparent place of business and it turns out to be a broom closet or PO box.
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That or the father and his special needs son are actually grifters who find tutors, befriend them, and then proceed to slowly scam them of all their money. The 'son' is actually a little person who smokes smelly cigars creating hilarity when the tutor unexpectedly stops by and he has to ditch his stogie in the goldfish bowl.
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Quickie here..... I had to go to the DHHR office to sign an affidavit against my ex-husband yesterday (sidenote: going to prison for not paying child support for 18 years is BWM and BWL). The way the office is set up is that you walk up to the window to sign in, and right next to the window is a big table where you can sit to fill out paperwork. There was a guy sitting at the table, and when I glanced over at him while waiting, I noticed two things. 1) he was applying for foodstamps (no judgement on that, sometimes poo poo happens) and 2) he had what looked like some kind of textbook sitting on top of a notebook (hey, cool, he's going to school & trying to better his situation!) Then I noticed what the book actually was.... https://www.amazon.com/Blockchain-T...27935542&sr=8-6
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We need to build the foodchain to replace food stamps
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Overheard a few people sitting in the waiting room of a socialized labor hellhole ( ) complaining about how they didn't like the current federal government in general and environmental regulation specifically because "gas is expensive and I drive a truck". Voting against your own long term interests because you spent 1.5-2 years salary on a truck is totes on the BWM spectrum.
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Krispy Wafer posted:That or the father and his special needs son are actually grifters who find tutors, befriend them, and then proceed to slowly scam them of all their money. The 'son' is actually a little person who smokes smelly cigars creating hilarity when the tutor unexpectedly stops by and he has to ditch his stogie in the goldfish bowl. I wish very much for this to be true. I would watch that movie starring Billy Bob Thornton.
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Guest2553 posted:Overheard a few people sitting in the waiting room of a socialized labor hellhole ( California Republicans are currently fighting a gas tax that goes to fund roads. There's holes in the legislation that would be great to be plugged up so it doesn't end up some slush fund, but overall that's exactly how taxes should work and the fact that they're fighting it shows that the right-wing of the US is a disingenuous piece of poo poo. The most attractive part about right-wing politics is that it somehow gets to be the "bootstraps" party and "everyone else is at fault for you not being successful" party at the same time. Seems to be a common element worldwide. In BWM news, my roommate is broke. That's bad! She had a job in which she was pretty well matched in terms of skill and experience, but it didn't pay enough and she believes she's better than it, so she burned that bridge and left it. In her pursuit of stable income, she literally applies for jobs based on its salary. She applied for a product manager job in an industry in which she has no experience because it paid well. In truth, the hiring manager is at fault here for even agreeing to give her an interview, but she's also dumb for thinking she'd have a shot. She literally looked through catalogs of that particular industry for "research." Is that what people do-- apply to any random $75K a year job and hope they get it? She's also is buying random drop-shipment bullshit from China to see if she can "resell it" while simultaneously mocking a friend for making an investment that was clearly not going to pay off in a field in which he had no experience. Again, she has no actual experience in digital sales or SEO (whatever's left of SEO). She asked if I would help with this website. Uh, no. At least she's off that Rodan and Fields poo poo, but I count down the days to when I see some sort of Lularoe box at the doorstep. Her "I'm going to get out of being poor" plan is to find people to "make her a program" that basically does automated A/B optimization testing and UX optimization on websites and QA. She thinks that this is possible because, well, computers. She buys things online so that makes her qualified to do UI/UX consulting. I've explained that some of this already exists, and the other is not really possible to automate at this point but her technical knowledge is so non-existent that I can't reach her and at this point, I don't really give a gently caress anymore. Blinkman987 fucked around with this message at 19:47 on Jun 2, 2018 |
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So when's your lease up?
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Blinkman987 posted:California Republicans are currently fighting a gas tax that goes to fund roads. There's holes in the legislation that would be great to be plugged up so it doesn't end up some slush fund, but overall that's exactly how taxes should work and the fact that they're fighting it shows that the right-wing of the US is a disingenuous piece of poo poo. The most attractive part about right-wing politics is that it somehow gets to be the "bootstraps" party and "everyone else is at fault for you not being successful" party at the same time. Seems to be a common element worldwide. Wow you really hate republicans don’t you. Let’s just ignore the fact that California has raised gas taxes in the past to fix the roads and then spent the money else where. Ya let’s totally trust this time is different.  And lots of people are against the tax increase (that already went into affect) that aren’t republicans, including myself. California is BWM. Loan Dusty Road fucked around with this message at 19:57 on Jun 2, 2018 |
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Dustoph posted:California has raised gas taxes in the past to fix the roads and then spent the money else where. Sounds bad with money
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Splicer posted:So when's your lease up? Not for a while, but I have a contract in place, she has a trust, and my financial exposure is pretty limited so it's whatever. Dustoph posted:Wow you really hate republicans don’t you. Let’s just ignore the fact that California has raised gas taxes in the past to fix the roads and then spent the money else where. Ya let’s totally trust this time is different. I addressed that point, and Republicans are not against the gas tax because of spending loopholes. They love spending loopholes as much as anyone. They're against it on principle of all taxes are bad, which as an ideology has hosed this country so bad that they're deserving of everyone's hate.
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Dustoph posted:Wow you really hate republicans don’t you. Let’s just ignore the fact that California has raised gas taxes in the past to fix the roads and then spent the money else where. Ya let’s totally trust this time is different. Yeah but this time will be different.
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Dustoph posted:Wow you really hate republicans don’t you. Let’s just ignore the fact that California has raised gas taxes in the past to fix the roads and then spent the money else where. Ya let’s totally trust this time is different. Gas tax is regressive but it beats the hell out of spending my retirement years dying of starvation due to global warming-induced food shortages. Set that poo poo as high as possible.
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Blinkman987 posted:I addressed that point, and Republicans are not against the gas tax because of spending loopholes. That literally is the reason though. quote:First, the passage of SB 1 represents a bailout for our transportation programs that have been habitually raided, mismanaged, and not made a priority in Sacramento. Nothing in SB 1 reverses any of the http://documents.latimes.com/california-republicans-oppose-new-gas-tax/
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OctaviusBeaver posted:That literally is the reason though. The CA GOP would oppose it no matter what, even if it injected cash directly into the asphalt. I think you know that, though.
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Just like both political parties pretend to argue in good faith, you can all pretend that I posted an image of a toucan here.
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California is so BWM they tried to commit tax fraud on a state wide scale before the IRS went "lol no". http://thehill.com/policy/finance/389029-irs-to-issue-guidance-on-state-workarounds-to-tax-law-provison quote:Politicians in blue states have proposed or enacted measures to provide workarounds to the cap on the SALT deduction. Some of these measures allow residents to make donations to state and local funds in exchange for credits against their state and local taxes. The intention is for the donations to also be deductible as charitable contributions on their federal income taxes, since the charitable deduction wasn't capped in the new tax law.
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therobit posted:Just like both political parties pretend to argue in good faith, you can all pretend that I posted an image of a toucan here. Pretend I posted a toucan as well. What I’m saying is toucan play at that game.
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22 Eargesplitten posted:Pretend I posted a toucan as well. Anything to stop them from parroting their talking points.
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If it's just going to be a game of one-upmanship about one party vs another, take it over to D&Dtherobit posted:Anything to stop them from parroting their talking points. 22 Eargesplitten posted:What I’m saying is toucan play at that game. Boo
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Moneyball posted:If it's just going to be a game of one-upmanship about one party vs another, take it over to D&D Would it be considered mod sass to request that you rephrase this as a bird pun?
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therobit posted:Would it be considered mod sass Owl allow it.
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Blinkman987 posted:California Republicans are currently fighting a gas tax that goes to fund roads. There's holes in the legislation that would be great to be plugged up so it doesn't end up some slush fund, but overall that's exactly how taxes should work Gas taxes were great before electric vehicles started becoming popular, but now that they are gas burned becomes less and less accurate a proxy for miles driven and it's a problem that is just going to get worse. Raise the tax, you further incentivize people switching to non-IC cars, the tax falls disproportionately harder on people who can't afford those, revenues drop. Do you just raise the tax further, exacerbating the problem, or do you find a new way to fund roads? Did the bill banning gas cars in California by 2040 pass, by the way? If it did that'd seem to require some new source of road maintenance funds in a pretty short window. OctaviusBeaver posted:California is so BWM they tried to commit tax fraud on a state wide scale before the IRS went "lol no". This was egregiously stupid and never ever had a chance of passing legal muster. One of the defining things of a charitable contribution is that you don't receive like value for it. There's no way you could call taxes a charitable donation, since the taxes you pay go to things of value like, oh, road maintenance. Anyway, here's potentially the craziest cryptocurrency yet. No surprise that it involves John McAfee: https://www.ccn.com/eccentric-ico-promoter-john-mcafee-says-hes-releasing-a-physical-cryptocurrency/amp/ quote:The physical notes come in seven denominations, ranging from 1 to 500 MRUs. Four of the notes feature pictures of McAfee in various stages of undress, including one in which he is surrounded by women, his nose covered in white powder (it’s a screenshot from this video). The other three MRU notes feature pictures of Bitmain founder Jihan Wu, cryptocurrency entrepreneur Brock Pierce, and Bitcoin.com owner (and Bitcoin Cash promoter) Roger Ver. It’s not clear if these three figures gave their consent to have their likenesses featured on MRU notes.
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