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Schadenboner posted:So I don't know fuckall about ~*.AdTeCh.*~ but is "% of site visitors with AdBlock" an included metric to prospective advertisers? my guess is there are some employers that disable addons in their builds so somewhere there is a captive audience of bored tech workers being forced to view ads on the company dime not at my company, of course, but somewhere. well, maybe at mine, most people just assume they cant and dont try
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lmao literal ted faro poo poo
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lol at the implication that there is any meaningful difference between 'doing contracts for the US military' and 'being a nationalistic defense contractor'
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Illusive gently caress Man posted:lol at the implication that there is any meaningful difference between 'doing contracts for the US military' and 'being a nationalistic defense contractor' Well, Google would sell out the U.S. to China in a heartbeat so I don't know about "nationalistic"?
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actual shooting wars between large, wealthy countries do not align with the interests of multinational corporations. but actual shooting wars with small, poor countries...
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Schadenboner posted:Well, Google would sell out the U.S. to China in a heartbeat so I don't know about "nationalistic"? google has pretty much been excluded from China for refusing to comply with many of their government demands. theres plenty of stuff to go after google about, this is not one of them.
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we use G Suite at work and it's mostly fine but they recently rolled out this Meet thing as an eventual replacement for hangouts I guess? the problem is meet only shares your screen at 720p apparently, while hangouts would do pretty good at any resolution, so now if somebody presents a window bigger than 1280x720 it rescales the image into something unreadable. we're back to using hangouts if we're going to screen-share. the original reason we tried to transition to meet is that it allows telephone dial-in, many people seem to be frightened and confused by the idea of a link you click to join a video call.
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Pham Nuwen posted:we use G Suite at work and it's mostly fine but they recently rolled out this Meet thing as an eventual replacement for hangouts I guess? the problem is meet only shares your screen at 720p apparently, while hangouts would do pretty good at any resolution, so now if somebody presents a window bigger than 1280x720 it rescales the image into something unreadable. we're back to using hangouts if we're going to screen-share. Wish your posting was presented only in a window bigger than 1280x720 during a Google Meet session (so we could not read them because your posts are not very good).
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Schadenboner posted:Wish your posting was presented only in a window bigger than 1280x720 during a Google Meet session (so we could not read them because your posts are not very good). wish your posts were a screenshare and this was an audio only call 
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Agile Vector posted:wish your posts were a screenshare and this was an audio only call Too far, bro. 
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I dont wish your posting on anyone
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Pham Nuwen posted:we use G Suite at work and it's mostly fine but they recently rolled out this Meet thing as an eventual replacement for hangouts I guess? the problem is meet only shares your screen at 720p apparently, while hangouts would do pretty good at any resolution, so now if somebody presents a window bigger than 1280x720 it rescales the image into something unreadable. we're back to using hangouts if we're going to screen-share. more proof that there is literally no adult supervision at google. why reuse the software and improve it when you can just write a new one from scratch that is bad and missing years of feature development?
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The Management posted:bad and missing years of feature development dsyp
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The Management posted:more proof that there is literally no adult supervision at google. why reuse the software and improve it when you can just write a new one from scratch that is bad and missing years of feature development? i work at the kirkland office where hangouts / meet stuff happens and i just want you to know that while this seems really stupid from the outside, it is also in fact really stupid from the inside as well
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thx for the confirmation, it excludes some of the more esoteric explanations (google intends to blanket the earth in chat protocols; google aspires for a guinness world record in most active users abandoned in company lifetime; etc)
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Pham Nuwen posted:we use G Suite at work condolences. Slack Motherfucker posted:i work at the kirkland office where hangouts / meet stuff happens and i just want you to know that while this seems really stupid from the outside, it is also in fact really stupid from the inside as well so you're saying it's the microsoft ex-pats to blame. figures.
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Krankenstyle posted:thx for the confirmation, it excludes some of the more esoteric explanations (google intends to blanket the earth in chat protocols; google aspires for a guinness world record in most active users abandoned in company lifetime; etc) I thought it was that launching a new product is way better for the business owner's career than improving an existing one
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Slack Motherfucker posted:i work at the kirkland office where hangouts / meet stuff happens and i just want you to know that while this seems really stupid from the outside, it is also in fact really stupid from the inside as well please gather some selected posts from this thread, print them out, and paste them over the urinals at your office
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qirex posted:I thought it was that launching a new product is way better for the business owner's career than improving an existing one we're trying to fix that but it turns out that fixing it is harder than just saying "okay everyone product quality is our top priority" while not changing any incentive systems at all to reflect this in our lived reality, so we're all out of ideas
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the only way in my experience to avoid this trap is to incentivize the poo poo out of product managers staying put, continuity and long term vision are impossible when everyone on the product team is 100% focused on hitting the next ladder rung in the next 12-24 months
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The Management posted:please gather some selected posts from this thread, print them out, and paste them over the urinals at your office Please do the needful.
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Pham Nuwen posted:we use G Suite at work as a cj for the C-level, G suite turns every meltdown into a hold my beer (its a startup after all) I got this
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Slack Motherfucker posted:we're trying to fix that but it turns out that fixing it is harder than just saying "okay everyone product quality is our top priority" while not changing any incentive systems at all to reflect this in our lived reality, so we're all out of ideas its actually super easy: dont launch a product unless you can enumerate in so many ways how it is different from existing products & obvs if its like 4 ways, just put the new features in the old product jfc
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I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Diane Green or one of her direct reports is managed out in the next 6-12 months over this drone bullshit. They managed to take a "throw some sales engineering at the dod to grease the fedramp runway" play into a colossal pr fuckup, got caught lying to employees about it like 3 different times (including memory hole-ing docs they left company-wide readable once people found them), are now forced to pretend like they didn't want that murder drone money all along, and aren't even going to get a big revenue win, because the people writing govt contracts are just gonna go with a contractor where the help doesn't ask so many questions about 'ethics'. Like vic g got handed his additional family time notice, and all he did was build a social network no one wanted (and they still salvaged a good photos product out of it).
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Pham Nuwen posted:we use G Suite at work and it's mostly fine but they recently rolled out this Meet thing as an eventual replacement for hangouts I guess? the problem is meet only shares your screen at 720p apparently, while hangouts would do pretty good at any resolution, so now if somebody presents a window bigger than 1280x720 it rescales the image into something unreadable. we're back to using hangouts if we're going to screen-share. i'll look in to it but rest assured there's no resolution limit. It even works with retina macbooks. In the meantime try firefox i just launched it this month. also i'm pretty sure that i've explained several times how we got where we did wet mutliple chat apps. tldr blame nick fox.
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Hank Scorpio was a conscientious employer who honestly cared about (and for) his employees which puts him drastically at odds with Google and "Tech" generally. Hth?
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Krankenstyle posted:also afaict he burns a bunch of soldiers which is basically the only proper reaction when was the last time you saw a ceo get down in the trenches with the grunts? thats leadership
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Schadenboner posted:Hank Scorpio was a conscientious employer who honestly cared about (and for) his employees which puts him drastically at odds with Google and "Tech" generally. Hth? I don't see any ballpits in his lair
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BangersInMyKnickers posted:I don't see any ballpits in his lair he did have hammocks though
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Agile Vector posted:when was the last time you saw a ceo get down in the trenches with the grunts? thats leadership Hank Scorpio got actual work out of Homer Simpson. That's leadership.
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goog did something good! https://techcrunch.com/2018/06/01/google-quits-selling-tablets/ Google has quietly crept out of the tablet business, removing the “tablets” heading from its Android page
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Best Bi Geek Squid posted:goog did something good! watches are next
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Best Bi Geek Squid posted:Google has quietly crept out of the tablet business, removing the “tablets” heading from its Android page This seems more like an exercise in re branding if they're now only in the "Chrome OS tablet" business instead of the "Android table" business. Eagerly awaiting the release of the "Allo tablet".
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Disregard, the Android tablets section is back up https://twitter.com/lockheimer/status/1003122415742771200
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qirex posted:the only way in my experience to avoid this trap is to incentivize the poo poo out of product managers staying put, continuity and long term vision are impossible when everyone on the product team is 100% focused on hitting the next ladder rung in the next 12-24 months it's almost like financial firms understand that they can only maintain a laser focus on clients by compensating tech people based on a laser focus on clients who could have anticipated that technology people would respond to financial incentives it must be that banks are stupid and techies only really understand options on illiquid stock that cannot be valued or sold
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sounds reasonable. i hear wells fargo developed some very interesting employee incentive programs.
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Fiedler posted:sounds reasonable. i hear wells fargo developed some very interesting employee incentive programs.
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Fiedler posted:sounds reasonable. i hear wells fargo developed some very interesting employee incentive programs.
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