Don Dongington posted:

MysticalMachineGun posted:

What's Sonarr?

MysticalMachineGun posted:

What's Sonarr?

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

A Nationals MP and an official and two senior Coalition staffers are rumoured to have advised Barnaby Joyce and Vikki Campion to abort her pregnancy - claims which have been denied.

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

A Nationals MP and an official and two senior Coalition staffers are rumoured to have advised Barnaby Joyce and Vikki Campion to abort her pregnancy - claims which have been denied.

Ora Tzo posted:

Reachtel poll

MysticalMachineGun posted:

I have GOT to know what demographics they used to find support for those tax cuts

Gorilla Salad posted:

But I repeat myself.

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More Poor Poll Reporting In The Oz

It's disappointing to report that the national broadsheet, home of the most predictively reliable voting intention poll, has besmirched itself by commissioning another dubiously worded issues poll and allowing repeat offender Simon Benson to go silly with the results. The Australian's recent poll on company tax cuts itself has been panned for sins of omission in the preamble wording (eg see Adrian Beaumont's writeup). However it is the use made of it by the newspaper that is the bigger problem here. The poll question stated the tax cuts as a fait accompli, and then asked how they should be implemented. This makes the "Not at all" option underestimate opposition, since some respondents might not have supported the tax cuts in the first place, but might believe the government should nonetheless go ahead with what it has said it will do, especially when asked when it should be done. For the same reason, adding the "As soon as possible" and "In stages over the next 10 years" options together would not meaningfully show the rate of support for the plan even had the plan been accurately described.

Yet this didn't stop Benson from delighting the culture warriors with a claim that tax cuts were more popular than same-sex marriage (ignoring, alongside the preamble's defects, that an opt-in postal plebiscite is not a poll and that generic polls on same-sex marriage actually tended to show higher support than the actual outcome). And this was the second time in two polls that Benson was talking nonsense. Last fortnight, Newspoll found 46-43 opposition to a referendum on allowing dual citizens to become MPs but Benson reported this as "Most voters are also opposed", and also referred to "A majority of voters, 46 per cent". Not only is 46% obviously not a "majority" or "most voters", but the three-point margin is within the poll's margin of error anyway.

The tax cuts poll was widely claimed to be "push-polling" on social media but (for the umpteenth time) it wasn't. A push-poll is a message in the guise of a poll, distinguished by the use of a huge "sample" size (to get the message out as far as possible) and by the sponsor's disinterest in making any use of any "results". Polls with normal sample sizes but dubious wording (which might then generate a result that could be used to persuade politicians or voters that something had popular support, or simply as a news hook to grab publicity for the sponsor's views) are something else. I call them "skew-polls". The terms "advocacy polls" and "hired gun polls" are also used overseas, but advocacy polling can include commissioned polls that are fair and well designed, though in my experience those are a very small minority.

There is a long track record of right-wing media commissioning dubiously worded polls to make political points, but the Murdoch press are far from the worst offenders, just perhaps the most influential. (It was interesting to see One Nation senators scurrying after the poll result and trying to conduct their own opt-ins to test it.) I see a lot more of these things from environmental groups.

Anidav posted:

Barnaby do you love your new baby?

Yes I do

Anidav posted:

When did you first realise you love her?

Tough questions haha

Man imagine getting paid 150k for cheating on your wife.

Anidav posted:

When this kid becomes a teenager he is going to hate both of them forever.

bandaid.friend posted:

Will Barnaby walk out once the relationship is no longer politically convenient or do you reckon he'll wait a couple of days?

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

ModernMajorGeneral posted:

Surely this should be top 10 anime betrayals.

ModernMajorGeneral posted:

Surely this should be top 10 anime betrayals.

MysticalMachineGun posted:

Can we get $250,000 for Barnaby's ex-wife or daughters? Oh, they're not "famous" so nobody cares? Okay never mind.