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Saw a jungle taliyah do pretty well, now that her Q doesn't have reduced damage to minions anymore.
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:Saw a jungle taliyah do pretty well, now that her Q doesn't have reduced damage to minions anymore. Erdricks posted:this pyke champ is so broken, i love it
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I played two games as pyke last night and therefore I am the ultimate authority. Here are some scatterbrained thoughts about him. He's OK. He's a lot of fun, I don't think he's busted. His hook is really good - the travel time is very fast. W+E are both good at getting you out of poo poo situations. His ult is a bit finnicky and apparently its also quite buggy at the moment. Its nice to play a support that has some agency by themselves. Sometimes I forgot to go around doing support things like placing good wards and sweeping. Its nice to have duskblade cos you can 1 shot a ward. Thanks
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el dingo posted:I played two games as pyke last night and therefore I am the ultimate authority. Here are some scatterbrained thoughts about him.
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Well he's also kind of like blitz in that even if you done hosed up, your hook is still really good so you can be of some use.
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I'm actually questioning the wisdom of giving a champ two forms of crowd control usable from camo. People who have played against him, is there a sound when he activates his camo? I was using it and people were backing off a lot like it was a sion ult or something
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el dingo posted:Well he's also kind of like blitz in that even if you done hosed up, your hook is still really good so you can be of some use. If he somehow escapes support orbit, I think he could be balanced pretty well as a jungler
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I am super low elo / new to the game / bad to the game, so take my experiences with a grain of salt. I was able to land my hooks, follow up with a stun, and then execute the poor schmuck who thought he could flash away and get a nice ult reset to land more damage on the other guy. Is this experience not normal for the rest game?
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el dingo posted:I'm actually questioning the wisdom of giving a champ two forms of crowd control usable from camo. It literally puts this giant ring of shark teeth around nearbye enemies. Erdricks posted:His ult means that if you are under 25% (or whatever the threshold %) health, you can't even show near him because he will W-R and get ult resets. ADCs can't get any relief this patch. His ult is not percentage based, it's much stupider/worse. It's flat health scaling poorly off AD and less poorly off Pyke's level.
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Erdricks posted:I am super low elo / new to the game / bad to the game, so take my experiences with a grain of salt. I was able to land my hooks, follow up with a stun, and then execute the poor schmuck who thought he could flash away and get a nice ult reset to land more damage on the other guy. Is this experience not normal for the rest game? DaStampede posted:So, perma banned for the next few weeks is what you're saying perma banned for the next forever 
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He's a support with a hook, which means he's going to have a high ban rate forever because no-one can dodge a heavily telegraphed skillshot.
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 is lucian good again he seems good, and i love lucian
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So do people like how Riot is constantly making a lot of new changes each patch? As someone who only plays casually these days I don't really like it.
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el dingo posted:I'm actually questioning the wisdom of giving a champ two forms of crowd control usable from camo. I practiced against a friend and he said it makes a crazy loud sound that is super noticeable.
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CubeTheory posted:I practiced against a friend and he said it makes a crazy loud sound that is super noticeable. Kinda reminds me of that old THX sound.
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Here are some hot Pyke hook tips: Charging his hook doesn't seem to slow down his movement speed, or if it does it is not by much. Flashing while charging the hook does not interrupt it's channel in any way, so flash hook everybody. The hook pulls them a set distance towards you and not to you, so if you hook them point blank it flips them over your head a la Singed/Volibear. You give up a little damage by not just tap Qing, but the displacement is crazy for ganks.
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CODChimera posted:So do people like how Riot is constantly making a lot of new changes each patch? As someone who only plays casually these days I don't really like it. I feel like there have been a lot of big patches but they haven't really been game changing patches. The AP items update didn't really change how mages itemise beyond making archangel's better and deathcap more common and I can't see the marksman item changes doing anything majorly different.
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As someone new to the game, is the level of bitching about the death of ADCs from this patch consistent with typical reddit whine?
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well people with complain about everything but I don't really understand what the point of the changes were
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henkman posted:well people with complain about everything but I don't really understand what the point of the changes were They wanted to delay crit ADCs power. As it used to be, a finished zeal item plus IE was good enough for them to start going off, and they got stronger from there. Riot wanted them to be weaker later. They did this by increasing the price of zeal items and making IE give no crit chance by itself, so you can't rush it anymore. Now ADCs have to wait to third/fourth item before they start hypercarrying.
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they deigned to decrease the power of the 'adc' role as it was apparent that they were interfering in the fun of the many invincible ninjas and invincible other people instantly killing people
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Erdricks posted:As someone new to the game, is the level of bitching about the death of ADCs from this patch consistent with typical reddit whine? Every role main bitches like hell whenever they feel like that role is not the center of the loving universe (see: top laners).
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SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:
new Essence Reaver was quite good to him and gives him the ability to fire off his ult and then go extremeley ham like old No-Cooldown Dash Lucian, which makes me think yes. BoRK's cheaper pricepoint is also decent if you wanna go BoRK Lucian but ER/RFC/Iedge is the new hotness.
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SRO does top Pyke again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPUqvR6N8jE
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Banner is 40% reduction now, not 70%
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kingcobweb posted:Banner is 40% reduction now, not 70% They hotfixed it that fast? jesus christ
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The Shortest Path posted:They hotfixed it that fast? jesus christ One of the things the developers have said is that they've improved the technical side of implementing hotfixes dramatically over time, which means that they're far more willing to swing for the fences with new changes since fixing them is much less demanding than before. CODChimera posted:So do people like how Riot is constantly making a lot of new changes each patch? As someone who only plays casually these days I don't really like it. The AP item changes, ADC item changes, and jungle changes are what would normally constitute the big midseason update that Riot does every season, but it's being trickled out over multiple patches to reduce the balancing nightmare such things usually entail. Vermain fucked around with this message at 01:15 on Jun 3, 2018 |
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Being able to make big changes because you can hotfix quickly is Extremely Cool and I like that.
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Banner should just be removed because it's boring as poo poo and will always be either too good or completely useless.
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Kokoro Wish posted:SRO does top Pyke again: His hook game is hot garbage.
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AMAZING!!! CAN YOUTUBE TITLES GET ANY MORE CLICKBAITEY?! YOU WONT BELIEVE WHAT HAPPENED
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I got a Pyke shard in my first levelup capsule post-patch. That poo poo is worth 1560 BE since he's 7800, that's 300 more BE than you're supposed to be abled to get in a normal levelup. (So assuming I dont actually want him I should make sure to dust it before he drops in price.) Also got -70% on Worldbreaker Nasus in my shop on my main so that's pretty great too. code:iSurrender fucked around with this message at 11:43 on Jun 3, 2018 |
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its curtains for Kevin posted:Being able to make big changes because you can hotfix quickly is Extremely Cool and I like that. agreed
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I've been trying to learn jungle on Xin Zhao and one thing I've been struggling with a lot is dealing with counterjunglers. I've played a couple games now where the enemy jungler really super aggressively came for me in the jungle and I had no idea how to handle that situation. In one of those games it was Lee Sin so I really should have expected him to barge in and hand me my rear end, but the other game it was Trundle and I didn't expect him to go in on me that early. What's the best way to deal with a super aggro counterjungler?
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Honestly as Xin, you should absolutely be the aggressor. As an example, my clear is almost always first buff > wait for the crab, gank mid and make way to crab #2, second buff and start looking from there. If you're bot side, take red, and walk up towards their wolves, see if you can use the blast plant to maybe show up, or snipe them as they're clearing potentially, or if top side look to see if they might be clearing raptors or something. Maybe you're taking the wrong skills too? Start E, Q @ 2 and then start working on W. You want the knockup and dash because they're so core for early fighting. I'd give some consideration to being a little less aggressive if it's something like Graves, Udyr or Trundle because they're pretty drat strong at 2-4 and it could be really dicey. Biggest thing is having a clear route you want to take so you don't get caught with your pants down.
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I'm taking a break from League as of right now to focus on school as finals are coming up, but I've done basically nothing but play Pyke for the last three days, so here are my impressions (also, if you find yourself doing nothing but playing League for three days, consider taking a break!!) I think the "assassin" description/playstyle/build path is a trap. You certainly can go hunting assassin-style if people are low enough and/or you're far enough ahead, but really, he's a roaming, playmaking support a la Alistar, Rakan, Thresh, Leona, etc etc. In laning, you need to land a hook. Sometimes you can E or E-flash in the right situation (like you're receiving a gank), but in 2v2 lanes, yep, gotta hit the skillshot. Going in with E and whiffing basically kills you on the spot. I think everyone is building him wrong. Instead of Mobis -> Duskblade, I've been going Swiftness -> Iceborn Gauntlet. Mobis certainly help out your roaming/ganking playstyle, but with Swiftness, Relentless Hunter, Celerity, and your W, you go pretty drat fast out of combat. Then, when you're in combat, Swiftness lets you dash around and peace out with W when you need to regen with passive and wait for your cooldowns to come back. Duskblade's passive is amazing for clearing vision, I can't deny that. But I don't think it's the best first item for him, because it doesn't really allow you to make plays you otherwise wouldn't. Your damage scaling is pretty terrible, and burst damage isn't really something you need to do; if you can hook someone, then stun with E, hopefully your team can deal enough damage to put them in your R execute threshold. Your E is an absolutely phenomenal teamfighting skill, and with a quick 40% CDR, you can get in a couple of them in an extended skirmish. Once you've completed IBG, you can W in, auto them for slow, land a guaranteed hook, auto for more slow, then E for a big stun or just leave. You can put yourself in harms way and just shrug off an insane amount of damage. The build path is pretty good for him early too, since extra mana + CDR really matters in those early-mid jungle skirmishes. I think the champ is pretty good. I haven't taken him out of norms yet, but in my last 18 games, I'm averaging 7/4.3/10.9. A lot of people are playing him thinking they'll be one-shotting carries out of the support role, which isn't really what he does. (I have legit 1v1'd some people and it rules when that happens.) Edit: oh forgot to talk about runes. It would seem like Aftershock is the obvious choice, especially for tank Pyke, but the issue is that a lot of the time you just hit a Q from distance and completely waste the trigger. The most important thing for Pyke is starting a snowball, and the best thing for doing that is Electrocute. Domination/Sorcery Electrocute Sudden Impact Eyeball Collection Relentless Hunter Nullifying Orb (maybe this should be Scorch, idk) Celerity kingcobweb fucked around with this message at 07:55 on Jun 4, 2018 |
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Down With People posted:I've been trying to learn jungle on Xin Zhao and one thing I've been struggling with a lot is dealing with counterjunglers. I've played a couple games now where the enemy jungler really super aggressively came for me in the jungle and I had no idea how to handle that situation. In one of those games it was Lee Sin so I really should have expected him to barge in and hand me my rear end, but the other game it was Trundle and I didn't expect him to go in on me that early. What's the best way to deal with a super aggro counterjungler? Do jungle paths that involve you taking enemy camps. I usually take enemy krugs against aggro junglers every time since they will always be in my jungle or at scut.
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kingcobweb posted:I'm taking a break from League as of right now to focus on school as finals are coming up Finals this late? I figured most places are already done them. Heck, I'm balls deep into summer courses already. At any rate, what are you in for?
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