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spankmeister posted:France isn't only the biggest market for Japanese whisky but for the whisky market in general iirc. At least in Europe. The general consensus in the industry is that France and Germany are the places to be if you want to sell whiskey in Europe. I think France trends toward American and Japanese whiskies, while Germany goes in for Scotch. I asked one scotch distiller if it was China driving up prices, and he said his biggest markets continues to be "Germany, Germany, Germany, and Germany." But Bourbon is king in France, ironically enough.
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chitoryu12 posted:
Suspicious of what? Those prices look inline with what I'd expect for a 50mL or 1.5oz pour. TobinHatesYou fucked around with this message at 01:48 on Jun 3, 2018 |
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TobinHatesYou posted:Suspicious of what? Those prices look inline with what I'd expect for a 50mL or 1.5oz pour. Most everywhere I’ve seen whiskey of that level, it’s two or three times as much.
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I’d love to be able to get a 50ml pour of Fernet for $4.5. I don’t think I can buy a bottle for that price 
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chitoryu12 posted:
I'm the grand marnier listed under cognac.
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 Last night I invited some friends over for a blind whiskey tasting. I ran it like a double-blind clinical trial. I chose the whiskies, placed them in a brown bag, someone else poured them, and then we let people try them casually over 2 hours with food, etc. Then people got together and voted for their favorite. The lineup? A. Kikori Japanese rice whisky ($40) B. Mellow Corn, an unassuming American corn whisky ($12) C. Polly’s, a scotch aged in Firestone Walker beer barrels ($100) D. Talisker Storm, a peaty scotch ($60) E. Suntory Hibiki Japanese Harmony ($65) F. Bulleit Rye ($23) The winner was mellow corn the loving cheapest whiskey
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Knew the answer without looking.
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chitoryu12 posted:Most everywhere I’ve seen whiskey of that level, it’s two or three times as much. Can't speak for the scotch, but I've never seen Woodford priced that low.
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Enigma posted:Can't speak for the scotch, but I've never seen Woodford priced that low. Woodford is a $27 bottle at Total Wine and it probably costs a bar or restaurant ~$20. If we expect a pour cost of around 20% that means Woodford should cost around $6.67 for 50mL, rounded up to $7. 20% pour cost is already on the highly profitable side. Many bars have pour costs closer to 30%.
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Woodford is usually $12-$15 a pour for me. This is across multiple major metropolitan areas. And in NYC I regularly see it for like $22 
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Lowness 72 posted:Woodford is usually $12-$15 a pour for me. This is across multiple major metropolitan areas. Is that standard woodford or something like woodford double oaked?
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You know I'm not sure to be honest. I see the price tag and just go with something else usually.
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so in other words, everyone needs to try Mellow Corn?
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Missing Name posted:so in other words, everyone needs to try Mellow Corn? At that price point I'd be all over that if I could actually find any around here.
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Quiet Feet posted:At that price point I'd be all over that if I could actually find any around here. Me too, but I'm pretty sure it's impossible to find here.
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I've already posted this in the Europe travel megathread, but I'm planning on a two-week vacation to Ireland in late-August/September (dates still not confirmed since I have to square it with work) and was looking at visiting at least one distillery there. Are there any highly-recommended distillery tours there? My plan is to circle the island in a rented car from Dublin to Cork, Galway, Derry, Belfast, and then back to Dublin. Anything on that path would be ideal, but even if it's an extra hour's drive wouldn't put me off (I'm Canadian, we drive everywhere).
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mojo1701a posted:I've already posted this in the Europe travel megathread, but I'm planning on a two-week vacation to Ireland in late-August/September (dates still not confirmed since I have to square it with work) and was looking at visiting at least one distillery there. Are there any highly-recommended distillery tours there? Thankfully most of the distilleries in Ireland are situated around the coastal ring, so you'll have a bunch to choose from. But if you can only do one, I'd recommend going inland to do the Kilbeggan tour, if only because their place is so historical and beautiful. The whiskey's good, too - but they've got a really cool distillery that's worth seeing.
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Weltlich posted:Thankfully most of the distilleries in Ireland are situated around the coastal ring, so you'll have a bunch to choose from. But if you can only do one, I'd recommend going inland to do the Kilbeggan tour, if only because their place is so historical and beautiful. The whiskey's good, too - but they've got a really cool distillery that's worth seeing. Ooh, they also have an option to bottle your own. I'm still open to other options, however. Unfortunately, I'm trying to figure out what would be the best way to fit this into my travel plans.
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the problem with drinking half the bottle of whiskey in one night, is that you gotta go get another bottle the next day.
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mojo1701a posted:Ooh, they also have an option to bottle your own. I'm still open to other options, however. Unfortunately, I'm trying to figure out what would be the best way to fit this into my travel plans. I don't know if Cooley is still doing tours or not, but they're owned by Suntory, too, and are making Connemara and a few others. They'd also be on the Belfast -> Dublin leg of the route. Kilbeggan's a good day-trip out of Dublin, so if you're there a couple of days, I'd do that.
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mojo1701a posted:I've already posted this in the Europe travel megathread, but I'm planning on a two-week vacation to Ireland in late-August/September (dates still not confirmed since I have to square it with work) and was looking at visiting at least one distillery there. Are there any highly-recommended distillery tours there? The Irish Whiskey Museum in Dublin is really charming. It's not a distillery, but had a ton of history about the history of Irish whiskey. If the Guinness "tour" was expensive corporate marketing, the museum was built on a shoestring budget with as much love as possible.
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Seconding that. I had a day trip to Dublin last year and spent a nice couple of hours there.
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add me to the Mellow Corn Appreciation Club. Best $13 bottle I've ever tasted.
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Hadn't tried Woodford before, and I dig. Warm weather got me in the cocktails mood, so decided to make a bastard Old Fashioned. Didn't have any orange or the bitters, but went with lime, sugar and plenty of pure ice. Just as tasty... 
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 Local bottle shop had this on clearance for $20, so I broke down even though I'm trying to save my booze money this month for vacation. Sorry for the huge pic, phone posting.
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Has anyone tried the Evan Williams Bottled in Bond? How is it? I know the 1783 and single barrel are good, is it similar? The liquor store has it really cheap for a 1.75l, but it’s only in 1.75l bottles and that’s a big commitment when it’s 100 proof.
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22 Eargesplitten posted:Has anyone tried the Evan Williams Bottled in Bond? How is it? I know the 1783 and single barrel are good, is it similar? The liquor store has it really cheap for a 1.75l, but it’s only in 1.75l bottles and that’s a big commitment when it’s 100 proof. I just checked and it's only available here in 1.75L. $29+tax I like 1783, it's good cooking bourbon but Fighting Cock is a much better bourbon and is $14-17 for a fifth. Jim Beam Bonded was on sale so I decided to try a bottle and it's enjoyable. Not complex on any scale but a good basic sipping bourbon.
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22 Eargesplitten posted:Has anyone tried the Evan Williams Bottled in Bond? How is it? I know the 1783 and single barrel are good, is it similar? The liquor store has it really cheap for a 1.75l, but it’s only in 1.75l bottles and that’s a big commitment when it’s 100 proof. It's not amazing, and not amazingly bad either - inoffensive in a good way. It's one that is a good mixing bourbon, but I wouldn't seek it out for my first choice for sipping. But I've sipped it on rocks and haven't been let down by it. Def. needs some water to open up the nose on it, one or two ice cubes will do it. Probably wouldn't go out of my way to buy it again, but it's not bad. I've paid more for worse whiskey. EDIT: I just looked up the mash bill, and it's a high-corn bourbon at 75%. (Mellow Corn is 90% for reference.). So, this is a hair's breadth away from being a corn whiskey, lacking only a 5% adjustment in the mash bill and it was aged on new oak rather than used. Also realized it is a Heaven Hill product, which is unsurprising. Weltlich fucked around with this message at 15:34 on Jun 12, 2018 |
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Imo bourbon should be allowed to be aged in refill cask. But mah cooperage jerbs!!!
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spankmeister posted:Imo bourbon should be allowed to be aged in refill cask. But mah cooperage jerbs!!! Don't gently caress up the white oak tide to Ireland and Scotland, my dude.
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Or bourbon barrel aged beer.
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I was all about EW BiB until I tried OGD BiB. I haven't bought it since. That said, I think there are worse options for that price point.
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It’s $25-26 here, which is by far the cheapest BiB option I have seen in CO. I might pick it up to drink after I move on Saturday. Lord knows I’ll need it.
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I'm thinking of a trip to Scotland in the very near future. I don't think I can make it to Islay since we'll probably only be doing 5 days but any whisky related things I should definitely not miss? I'm still in the planning stages so no firm itinerary.
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Lowness 72 posted:I'm thinking of a trip to Scotland in the very near future. I don't think I can make it to Islay since we'll probably only be doing 5 days but any whisky related things I should definitely not miss? I'm still in the planning stages so no firm itinerary. Around Speyside's going to be the best bet if you can't get out to Islay. Literally can't throw a rock without hitting a scotch distillery in Speyside. Of particular note, go visit Glen Farclas, I've always enjoyed spending time with them whenever I've had the chance to visit.
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I just bought a Stagg Jr and a High West Yippee Ki Yay for $130 total. I feel like I’ve won some sort of shelf prize.
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Don't know what all the fuss is over Mellow Corn. I bought a bottle last weekend because of what people were saying about it in this thread. For $15 I guess it's alright, but I prefer my Two Stars much more.
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Saddamnit posted:...For $15 I guess it's alright... I think that's the biggest thing. Whiskey prices have been inflating over the past decade, and to find a $15 bottle that isn't absolute rotgut is honestly pretty astonishing. I've had $40, 375ml bottles of super-small-batch-ultra-special-micro-distillery-exclusive whiskies that were just as pedestrian and inoffensive as Mellow Corn. It's a bottle I never feel bad about mixing, or pouring some into a marinade, or pouring a finger for myself while I'm waiting to flip the steaks. Jefferson Presidential 17yr it's not, but it's passable and versatile.
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Saddamnit posted:Don't know what all the fuss is over Mellow Corn. I bought a bottle last weekend because of what people were saying about it in this thread. For $15 I guess it's alright, but I prefer my Two Stars much more. It's supposed to be $10.
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