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etalian
Mar 20, 2006


lmao at least it's not a 1000 year old demon trapped in a teen girl's body story.

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mrbotus
Apr 7, 2009

Patron of the Pants
That light novel sounds ducked up. It's like a story about a Nazi who murdered thousands gets reborn as a cute boy to go on more adventures wtf. Nut considering how ignorant Japanese tend to be about their country's atrocities in China, the author probably has no idea how sick and ducked up his premise is.

Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!

nickmeister posted:

That light novel sounds ducked up. It's like a story about a Nazi who murdered thousands gets reborn as a cute boy to go on more adventures wtf. Nut considering how ignorant Japanese tend to be about their country's atrocities in China, the author probably has no idea how sick and ducked up his premise is.

:wotwot:

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!

Kharnifex posted:

Just don't buy noodles from the Chinese noodle place in odaiba it sucks

Go to ikebukuro instead it has better chinese food

ikebukuro does have pretty good chinese food but the best chinese food i had in japan was in ibaraki :v:

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004


image text goes here
Where?

Bajaj
Sep 13, 2017

by FactsAreUseless
My latest China story:

I am going for a short time, one month, maybe two, just to hang out with my friends before going back to the USA to see family. I haven't arrived yet. Chaoshan Girl has been super patient and helpful in trying to find me a sublet or short-term rental. There's a new scheme taking over cities, according the news article I read, where "young and hip" studios catering to single people or post-college kids can rent. Companies like Mofang and others are remodeling buildings to fit in like 400 studios and fill them with every bit of furniture and appliance needed to live alone, including having internet and TV included in the price. They have gyms, cafes, and all this other superfluous stuff added which is part of their system: Advertise at one price, but then every renter must pay "building fees (like HOA stuff)" as well some companies charge their own electric and water rates on top of the building fees and scoop out their share from that as well. They might advertise like 3000 RMB for the studio, but fees and their bills take it well over 4000 per month. Then you see the rooms at the 3000 price and they might not even have windows or something, and if you want windows, then the base price goes up to 4500 or something. On top of this, they often seem to demand the contract's worth of fees at once, like all those scam gyms tend to do.
It's a ton of money for a studio, and when CG went to look at these places there was a lot of availability. It's easy to see why when across the street in a building made in the 1990s you can get a fully furnished place without any fees or weird bills for under 3000.

CG was talking to a real estate guy outside and he showed her one with a three-month lease and it had everything included and the price was really good for the area, about 1000 less than I expected to pay. CG went, sent me photos, I said to get it, and then she started signing the documents and giving the real estate guy the scans of my passport and all this stuff. The landlady is really lazy and made them both wait two hours so she could add her signature, even though she lives right down the road.

She walks in and picks up the contract and talks to CG for a moment. She looks at the name on the lease and can't read it.

Her: "Foreigner?"
CG: "Yes, my friend. He is really good, very clean, cooks at home, works on his computer."
*Shows her photos of how I transformed my last Chinese dump into a cozy place*
Her: "I rented to a foreigner once. A Chinese from Malaysia. He was messy. I can't trust foreigners again."
*Literally just walks out of the house without saying another word*

The real estate agent tried to contact her and she replied that was shopping with friends and didn't have time to talk.

For not having to think about these kind of "issues" for the past nine or so months, xie xie for reminding me how you are, Mainland China.

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

Porpoise noise continues.
Japanese-style Chinese food is generally not good.* Not as bad as Korean-Chinese, though.

If you can go to an actual Chinatown in Japan, it's okay. I had pretty good dim sum in Yokohama once with an HK buddy.



*Except for obvious things like ramen, gyoza, etc. that have basically become Japanese over time. I once had Japanese "mapo tofu" and it was more like a spiceless chili with sad chunks of tofu floating around and white pepper as the only flavoring.

Bajaj
Sep 13, 2017

by FactsAreUseless
3600 RMB / $560 USD per month in heart of Shenzhen, baby.



Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


lmao

I'm shocked there's a bottle of soap in that bathroom.

HerStuddMuffin
Aug 10, 2014

YOSPOS
Clutter included?

Power Khan
Aug 20, 2011

by Fritz the Horse

Bajaj posted:

3600 RMB / $560 USD per month in heart of Shenzhen, baby.





I can't decide if I'm the clown broom, or the hole in the wall that they fixed with tape.

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

Bajaj posted:

3600 RMB / $560 USD per month in heart of Shenzhen, baby.





I just finished doing a deep clean of my house today, took me the whole goddamn day.

Now I'm feeling the need to do it again.


Power Khan posted:

I can't decide if I'm the clown broom, or the hole in the wall that they fixed with tape.

I'm the air conditioner held in place with more brown packing tape, the least strongest tape known to man.

Porfiriato
Jan 4, 2016


Power Khan posted:

I can't decide if I'm the clown broom, or the hole in the wall that they fixed with tape.

I’m on the fence as to whether I’m the skid marks in the squatter bowl or the dangling cord and electric plug in the shower/toilet.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Gorilla Salad posted:

I'm the air conditioner held in place with more brown packing tape, the least strongest tape known to man.

It's what you got. Bizarrely, I have never once seen duct tape for sale in China or Korea. Maybe you can get it online somewhere, I dunno.

E: Also the scotch tape they sell here is total poo poo, way weaker and less sticky than in the US.

Grand Fromage fucked around with this message at 13:44 on Jun 3, 2018

Power Khan
Aug 20, 2011

by Fritz the Horse

Known Lecher posted:

I’m on the fence as to whether I’m the skid marks in the squatter bowl or the dangling cord and electric plug in the shower/toilet.

The whole thing is an obvious deathtrap, only cold water coming out of the faucet.

Is the umbrella on the shithouse decorative or functional?

GotLag
Jul 17, 2005

食べちゃダメだよ
What are the metal panels under the umbrella?

Colonel Cancer
Sep 26, 2015

Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon
Not a single window in sight

Ceciltron
Jan 11, 2007

Text BEEP to 43527 for the dancing robot!
Pillbug

Bajaj posted:

My latest China story:

I am going for a short time, one month, maybe two, just to hang out with my friends before going back to the USA to see family. I haven't arrived yet. Chaoshan Girl has been super patient and helpful in trying to find me a sublet or short-term rental. There's a new scheme taking over cities, according the news article I read, where "young and hip" studios catering to single people or post-college kids can rent. Companies like Mofang and others are remodeling buildings to fit in like 400 studios and fill them with every bit of furniture and appliance needed to live alone, including having internet and TV included in the price. They have gyms, cafes, and all this other superfluous stuff added which is part of their system: Advertise at one price, but then every renter must pay "building fees (like HOA stuff)" as well some companies charge their own electric and water rates on top of the building fees and scoop out their share from that as well. They might advertise like 3000 RMB for the studio, but fees and their bills take it well over 4000 per month. Then you see the rooms at the 3000 price and they might not even have windows or something, and if you want windows, then the base price goes up to 4500 or something. On top of this, they often seem to demand the contract's worth of fees at once, like all those scam gyms tend to do.
It's a ton of money for a studio, and when CG went to look at these places there was a lot of availability. It's easy to see why when across the street in a building made in the 1990s you can get a fully furnished place without any fees or weird bills for under 3000.

CG was talking to a real estate guy outside and he showed her one with a three-month lease and it had everything included and the price was really good for the area, about 1000 less than I expected to pay. CG went, sent me photos, I said to get it, and then she started signing the documents and giving the real estate guy the scans of my passport and all this stuff. The landlady is really lazy and made them both wait two hours so she could add her signature, even though she lives right down the road.

She walks in and picks up the contract and talks to CG for a moment. She looks at the name on the lease and can't read it.

Her: "Foreigner?"
CG: "Yes, my friend. He is really good, very clean, cooks at home, works on his computer."
*Shows her photos of how I transformed my last Chinese dump into a cozy place*
Her: "I rented to a foreigner once. A Chinese from Malaysia. He was messy. I can't trust foreigners again."
*Literally just walks out of the house without saying another word*

The real estate agent tried to contact her and she replied that was shopping with friends and didn't have time to talk.

For not having to think about these kind of "issues" for the past nine or so months, xie xie for reminding me how you are, Mainland China.

my wife had one of these "modern youth apartment" deathtraps that had no windows and humidity issues. She left after barely a month. The place was awful. Her new place is nicer but none of the plumbing has p traps so SEWER GAS SMELLS ahoy

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

After reading these threads for years I still have no idea why people willingly choose to go to China to live/work.

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth

Baronjutter posted:

no idea why

webmeister
Jan 31, 2007

The answer is, mate, because I want to do you slowly. There has to be a bit of sport in this for all of us. In the psychological battle stakes, we are stripped down and ready to go. I want to see those ashen-faced performances; I want more of them. I want to be encouraged. I want to see you squirm.

Colonel Cancer posted:

Not a single window in sight

Not like it matters, you’d only be able to see smog

Power Khan
Aug 20, 2011

by Fritz the Horse

Ceciltron posted:

my wife had one of these "modern youth apartment" deathtraps that had no windows and humidity issues. She left after barely a month. The place was awful. Her new place is nicer but none of the plumbing has p traps so SEWER GAS SMELLS ahoy

Repost the gif of the guy throwing a lit match into a sewer and being blown up.

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!

Baronjutter posted:

After reading these threads for years I still have no idea why people willingly choose to go to China to live/work.

as grand fromage has said a dozen times in answer to this, the answer is money. a foreigner can earn a ton more in china with certain skills than they can in the US, Canada, or UK. china is an awful place, it's true. you are completely powerless to change that. that is also true. but you are able to carve away a tiny sliver of serenity. the entire country is like the Titantic, and it has probably already nailed the iceberg - but nobody can tell because they've been piping the smoke from the engine room up into the residence decks for the whole voyage and the air poison has caused everyone to go pretty batty. but if you know where the nearest life boat is it kind of makes sense to keep collecting extravagant tips from the clueless chucklefucks on board until you hear the band stop playing.

e: this is also why i did business in china for a little while, though in my case the record scratched pretty quick and i ended up leaving it all behind pretty fast. shenzen manufacturing is a literal dumpster fire a lot of times.

Coolguye fucked around with this message at 20:25 on Jun 3, 2018

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:

Power Khan posted:

Repost the gif of the guy throwing a lit match into a sewer and being blown up.

Can't you just flush it a few extra times? I am. Not a plumber.

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!

Colonel Cancer posted:

Not a single window in sight

windows have been deemed a safety hazard, in case of 看熱鬧 chemical plant explosion outside of apartment

The Real Amethyst
Apr 20, 2018

When no one was looking, Serval took forty Japari buns. She took 40 buns. That's as many as four tens. And that's terrible.
The only time I visited mainland China was when I was visiting Hong Kong, I thought it would be a good idea to take a day trip across the border to shenzhen. I deeply regretted it, and ended up bailing out after about 4 hours. I do feel as if I got the
authentic mass consumerism rat race experience, and saw at least 1 child piss in the middle of the street.

Cry Havoc
May 10, 2004

This cyberpunk cartoon avatar is pretty dang ol' good, I tell you what.

Coolguye posted:

as grand fromage has said a dozen times in answer to this, the answer is money. a foreigner can earn a ton more in china with certain skills than they can in the US, Canada, or UK. china is an awful place, it's true. you are completely powerless to change that. that is also true. but you are able to carve away a tiny sliver of serenity. the entire country is like the Titantic, and it has probably already nailed the iceberg - but nobody can tell because they've been piping the smoke from the engine room up into the residence decks for the whole voyage and the air poison has caused everyone to go pretty batty. but if you know where the nearest life boat is it kind of makes sense to keep collecting extravagant tips from the clueless chucklefucks on board until you hear the band stop playing.

e: this is also why i did business in china for a little while, though in my case the record scratched pretty quick and i ended up leaving it all behind pretty fast. shenzen manufacturing is a literal dumpster fire a lot of times.

by certain skills do you mean teaching english

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!
no clearly he means translating english subtitles onto niche anime porn

EBB
Feb 15, 2005

What's the best way to pay for things in China as a visitor from the US? I used all cash last time but my wife says most vendors have switched to WeChat. My WeChat account is US based so I can't use WeChat Pay. What's my alternative? Alipay? Just buy a burner phone to use for buying poo poo?

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*

Baronjutter posted:

After reading these threads for years I still have no idea why people willingly choose to go to China to live/work.

My parents for the past 5 years have been invited to do summer classes at a university in Chengdu. They complained yesterday that everything is just rain, smog, and garbage as far as they could see. But the money was nice. Even the time they literally had their payment thrown at them in wads of bills.

They aren't being invited back next year because the school doesn't want to have a philosophy class and instead wants American business law.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


EVA BRAUN BLOWJOBS posted:

What's the best way to pay for things in China as a visitor from the US? I used all cash last time but my wife says most vendors have switched to WeChat. My WeChat account is US based so I can't use WeChat Pay. What's my alternative? Alipay? Just buy a burner phone to use for buying poo poo?

"Switched" is a bit of an overstatement on your wife's part. Cash is fine.

GoutPatrol posted:

My parents for the past 5 years have been invited to do summer classes at a university in Chengdu. They complained yesterday that everything is just rain, smog, and garbage as far as they could see.

Yesterday was bizarrely gross for June. Today looks nice though.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Is the lecher Rene Chang Ok?

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Like if I had some temporary 1-year contract and guaranteed 150k or something, and my job back home was safe for me to pick up, I might maybe consider working in China for a year. But it's got to be a very temporary thing to get a bunch of cash and run.

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all

Baronjutter posted:

Like if I had some temporary 1-year contract and guaranteed 150k or something, and my job back home was safe for me to pick up, I might maybe consider working in China for a year. But it's got to be a very temporary thing to get a bunch of cash and run.

That seems to be the exception and not the rule. Most accounts we see (and people I've met) are teachers with Stockholm syndrome or those caught in a rut because they've spent several years teaching but can't apply that skill easily to a job back home. The money isn't that good. It's mostly just a lifestyle that people are comfortable with. It's basically like college never ended and they can whore and drink and get paid enough to survive while doing it. But I've never heard anyone say they're fulfilled in life or satisfied while doing it.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Yeah it really does sound like a terrible rut for a lot of people. You couldn't quite find a stable or good job in the west so you go to China. It's awful and worse than you expected and the first 2 schools you taught at ripped you off but you can survive off that 10k USD a year there. The food is poisoning you, the air is poisoning you, you have zero career growth prospects, cost of living is cheap but your pay is low too so you're not exactly saving a huge nest egg, the culture has made you crazy and miserable but you have your little 1 bedroom apartment, some fairly safe sources of food, and you've almost grown comfortable in this rut.

Eventually if left untreated all your senses numb to the point that you think marrying a local and their family isn't a horrible idea. Mother in law wants to wrap baby in 10 layers and feed it hot water? Ok... this is my new rut.

This hole, it was made for me. It seems like China is a goon-shaped hole for some folk and they can't help but wedge them selves into.

Myriarch
May 14, 2013
On this day, 29 years ago, over 10,000 people no longer existed.

angel opportunity
Sep 7, 2004

Total Eclipse of the Heart

Baronjutter posted:

Yeah it really does sound like a terrible rut for a lot of people. You couldn't quite find a stable or good job in the west so you go to China. It's awful and worse than you expected and the first 2 schools you taught at ripped you off but you can survive off that 10k USD a year there. The food is poisoning you, the air is poisoning you, you have zero career growth prospects, cost of living is cheap but your pay is low too so you're not exactly saving a huge nest egg, the culture has made you crazy and miserable but you have your little 1 bedroom apartment, some fairly safe sources of food, and you've almost grown comfortable in this rut.

Eventually if left untreated all your senses numb to the point that you think marrying a local and their family isn't a horrible idea. Mother in law wants to wrap baby in 10 layers and feed it hot water? Ok... this is my new rut.

This hole, it was made for me. It seems like China is a goon-shaped hole for some folk and they can't help but wedge them selves into.

I made a really long post in the Chinese learning thread that was an extended description of this. It's mostly spot on, but some people are able to leverage their experience there into something that was worth it. I think it's definitely the exception rather than the norm though.


etalian posted:

Is the lecher Rene Chang Ok?

I spent ~10 minutes googling around today like "Rene Chang obituary" etc. and didn't find anything. I also didn't see any new posts/activity from him though.

LimburgLimbo
Feb 10, 2008

Atlas Hugged posted:

That seems to be the exception and not the rule. Most accounts we see (and people I've met) are teachers with Stockholm syndrome or those caught in a rut because they've spent several years teaching but can't apply that skill easily to a job back home. The money isn't that good. It's mostly just a lifestyle that people are comfortable with. It's basically like college never ended and they can whore and drink and get paid enough to survive while doing it. But I've never heard anyone say they're fulfilled in life or satisfied while doing it.

Well Shanghai supposedly has the highest average salary for expats in Asia, which is pretty impressive.

I'm tempted to say gently caress it and see if there's a position there just so I could work on my Chinese and make some money for a year before going to business school or something.

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all

LimburgLimbo posted:

Well Shanghai supposedly has the highest average salary for expats in Asia, which is pretty impressive.

I'm tempted to say gently caress it and see if there's a position there just so I could work on my Chinese and make some money for a year before going to business school or something.

I'd be curious how this broke down. Because you have to remember how terrible salaries are for English teachers in the majority of Asia. Then there's the question of how many people are making that much or if it's just one dude pulling in billions as an expat and a bunch of English teachers doing the same as everywhere.

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LimburgLimbo
Feb 10, 2008

Atlas Hugged posted:

I'd be curious how this broke down. Because you have to remember how terrible salaries are for English teachers in the majority of Asia. Then there's the question of how many people are making that much or if it's just one dude pulling in billions as an expat and a bunch of English teachers doing the same as everywhere.

It's excluding English teachers. Technically middle manager and above only I guess.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jnylander/2015/05/20/expat-pay-is-getting-fatter-in-china/#40c11ad46864

But anyway it's one data point as to why there are people willing to be in China. Plus when you make that much you can largely isolate yourself from a lot of the downsides of being in China. Really English teaching is a whole other world that should be considered separately from other expat groups because of the entirely different context of employment.

The point definitely stands that teaching English in China is probably the worst of all worlds.

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