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Jun 4, 2018 01:01
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is that a loving mike mignola heart of darkness cover
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Jun 4, 2018 01:14
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The Heart of Darkness cover is a disgrace. The Greek Myths cover is the only one that's.. OK? And sort of interesting. But still not very good.
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Jun 4, 2018 01:19
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Let's all infantilise our own canon of classic books
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Jun 4, 2018 01:23
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The Gravity's Rainbow cover is the best by a country mile and just happens to be by Frank Miller. 
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Jun 4, 2018 01:27
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The Tibetan Book of the Dead one is nice, and has some shiny foil flourishes on it, as do all of the Prousts. There are two variations of Moby-Dick that are good as well. And The Master and Margarita, although it is a P&V translation, has a nice cover. Edit: also good: Siddhartha Heath fucked around with this message at 01:44 on Jun 4, 2018 |
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Jun 4, 2018 01:35
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Jun 4, 2018 02:16
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J_RBG posted:Let's all infantilise our own canon of classic books
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Jun 4, 2018 02:23
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J_RBG posted:Let's all infantilise our own canon of classic books 
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Jun 4, 2018 02:47
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all this talk of bad book covers and no one brought up the twilight version of Wuthering Heights
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Jun 4, 2018 02:57
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:NSFW: for ghost dick.
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Jun 4, 2018 03:05
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Eugene V. Dubstep posted:That whole series is so drat tasteless. Maybe they're aiming at the teenager market? Which would be legitimate and worthy—but then what teenager is going to look at The Picture of Dorian Grey and be like, check out these chic illustrations by Ruben Toledo! when I was around 18 I had just read "The Maltese Falcon" and was looking for more cool detective/noir stories, and I happened to pick this one up at Books-a-Million because the cover looked cool  it was uh not what I expected (i never actually finished it but i still have it, maybe some day i will)
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Jun 4, 2018 03:47
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I have to be up in less than five hours:
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Jun 4, 2018 04:07
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Fun covers are cool and anyone who disagrees probably drinks la croix
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Jun 4, 2018 04:17
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Jun 4, 2018 04:20
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Eugene V. Dubstep posted:e: And why make the Austen/Brontë covers so explicitly girly and exclude half your audience? I wanted to go back to this because it was dumb. There are loads of book covers featuring men that inexplicably don't alienate women readers. If boys don't want to read books with GIRLS on the COVER that's a problem with boys, not the book or an illustration or whatever the gently caress
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Jun 4, 2018 04:41
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Doc Fission posted:I wanted to go back to this because it was dumb. There are loads of book covers featuring men that inexplicably don't alienate women readers. If boys don't want to read books with GIRLS on the COVER that's a problem with boys, not the book or an illustration or whatever the gently caress Sham bam bamina! fucked around with this message at 05:02 on Jun 4, 2018 |
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Jun 4, 2018 04:59
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When I bought that addition of Jane Eyre I knew nothing about it and assumed it was more on the Gothic horror side based on the cover.
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Jun 4, 2018 06:21
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would buy this
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Jun 4, 2018 06:57
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i've got a copy of sade's justine with a 50 shades of grey-styled cover, for a very hotte take
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Jun 4, 2018 11:08
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VileLL posted:i've got a copy of sade's justine with a 50 shades of grey-styled cover, for a very hotte take Meanwhile, the penguin classics deluxe edition cover for Philosophy in the Bedroom rules 
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Jun 4, 2018 11:40
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yeah that's dope
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Jun 4, 2018 12:41
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Sham bam bamina! posted:Yes, his point is that the presence of a woman on the cover of the novel Jane Eyre, by Charlotte Brontë, is what's going to deter males from buying that edition (as opposed to all those other Jane Eyre covers that don't have one), not that the woman looks like an escapee from a teenaged girl's DeviantArt gallery. I have no idea what this is agreeing with but honestly if half of the population is pre-alienated by women authors then why wouldn't you market to, you know, girls, to read Jane Eyre Honestly the reactions to these covers in this thread are some No Fun Allowed poo poo. Young people are reading and using libraries more than previous generations and they consume weird visual art more easily than ever. Based on that this branding is on point 
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Jun 4, 2018 13:11
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Doc Fission posted:I have no idea what this is agreeing with but honestly if half of the population is pre-alienated by women authors then why wouldn't you market to, you know, girls, to read Jane Eyre Sham bam bamina! fucked around with this message at 13:49 on Jun 4, 2018 |
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Jun 4, 2018 13:37
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Doc Fission posted:I have no idea what this is agreeing with but honestly if half of the population is pre-alienated by women authors then why wouldn't you market to, you know, girls, to read Jane Eyre ah yes the you must hate fun defense to lovely taste
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Jun 4, 2018 14:01
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I dunno, I kind of dig on letting famous illustrators have some fun with covers for classic novels I mean the Bronte ones are terrible because they don't accurately represent the work. The other ones are just letting famous visual artists have a go at the source material. Like, what would you prefer for The Picture of Dorian Gray? Sham bam bamina! posted:blech Chris Ware owns you fucker Mel Mudkiper fucked around with this message at 14:39 on Jun 4, 2018 |
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Jun 4, 2018 14:32
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Can anyone offer some recommendations? The most personally significant books I've read in the past year have been The Book of Disquiet (recommended by people here) and the two Beckett books I've read recently. I'm worried about wearing out Beckett by bingeing on him. Murphy, Molloy and The Book of Disquiet all tickled my love of mental flights made material. Molloy, for me, was hinting at post-modern significance, so maybe something more recent than that that fully embraces it, or a female author to see a different view of mental agitations.
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Jun 4, 2018 14:53
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I think most covers for Dorian Gray are terrible. Probably because it's also one of those books where the central conceit isn't really what the book is about. If I remember correctly, the whole "magic painting" aspect is revealed at the end of the book, and the majority of the story is Dorian being a douchebag elitist much to everyone's chagrin. The few that I found I like:   I have this copy, which I think it's pretty bland as well:  I also like the idea of well-known artists and illustrators doing covers from books, but I just think that they aren't the best fits for each other, like how Mignola just isn't a good fit for Heart of Darkness, and instead should have been given a Jules Verne book, or H.G. Wells. Other designs could use more of a pass. I like a lot of Chris Ware's book designs, like his one for Candide, but that Charlie and the Chocolate Factory book misses the mark. I don't think they're all bad. I like the cover for A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man, it's better than another edition with a pic of Joyce. I like the Gravity's Rainbow edition done by Frank Miller, for instance; it's a shame that it has misprints and excludes sections of the novel (not that anyone really notices). I'm currently reading this version of White Noise:  In general, I'm not a fan of book covers that try to illustrate the characters, because they rarely match the book's descriptions. Babette, the mom, looks like Hillary Clinton, for instance. I still think the colors are good, and the top image certainly captures the oppressive cluttered commercialism the book is satirizing.
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Jun 4, 2018 14:54
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Mrenda posted:Can anyone offer some recommendations? The most personally significant books I've read in the past year have been The Book of Disquiet (recommended by people here) and the two Beckett books I've read recently. I'm worried about wearing out Beckett by bingeing on him. Murphy, Molloy and The Book of Disquiet all tickled my love of mental flights made material. Molloy, for me, was hinting at post-modern significance, so maybe something more recent than that that fully embraces it, or a female author to see a different view of mental agitations. Anything more to work with? Franchescanado posted:I also like the idea of well-known artists and illustrators doing covers from books, but I just think that they aren't the best fits for each other, like how Mignola just isn't a good fit for Heart of Darkness, and instead should have been given a Jules Verne book, or H.G. Wells. Other designs could use more of a pass. I like a lot of Chris Ware's book designs, like his one for Candide, but that Charlie and the Chocolate Factory book misses the mark. I agree Mignola was a bad pick for Heart of Darkness and its easily the weakest cover. However, I think Ware was a great choice. His cover is underlying the fundamental absurdist concept of the novel, which is the precision of industrialization contrasted with the chaoticness of youthful curiosity. I think the illustration represents that really well. Mel Mudkiper fucked around with this message at 15:00 on Jun 4, 2018 |
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Jun 4, 2018 14:56
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Mrenda posted:Can anyone offer some recommendations? The most personally significant books I've read in the past year have been The Book of Disquiet (recommended by people here) and the two Beckett books I've read recently. I'm worried about wearing out Beckett by bingeing on him. Murphy, Molloy and The Book of Disquiet all tickled my love of mental flights made material. Molloy, for me, was hinting at post-modern significance, so maybe something more recent than that that fully embraces it, or a female author to see a different view of mental agitations. Thomas Bernhard
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Jun 4, 2018 15:04
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Mel Mudkiper posted:However, I think Ware was a great choice. His cover is underlying the fundamental absurdist concept of the novel, which is the precision of industrialization contrasted with the chaoticness of youthful curiosity. I think the illustration represents that really well. I agree with all these points, I just think that the font really disrupts the rest of the flow. I think that cleaning up the font would be better. Maybe put them in the pink boxes instead of cluttered randomly at the top. It's already a chaotic image, and I think it needs something to pull it back and give it some sense of grounding. I'd put it to one that could use another pass instead of being an outright bad mix. I am curious, if anyone cares to post them, to see what are some of the lit thread's favorite covers of books.
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Jun 4, 2018 15:04
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Franchescanado posted:I agree with all these points, I just think that the font really disrupts the rest of the flow. I think that cleaning up the font would be better. Maybe put them in the pink boxes instead of cluttered randomly at the top. It's already a chaotic image, and I think it needs something to pull it back and give it some sense of grounding. I think the grounding in some parts comes from his traditional use of rigid borders but I can see why you might have it visually noisy
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Jun 4, 2018 15:07
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Anything more to work with? Eh, often solitary people. Sometimes down-and-outs. Navigating their personal ambition or lack of it, content or lacking contentment with their way and knowing or not knowing it (Molloy had this parallel.) An engagement with finding satisfaction in the world, or at least satisfaction in their personal understanding of thought and meaning. Existentialism would be ok, Beckett was painted as nihilistic but I'm not sure I buy him as straight-up nihilism. It seemed more hedonism than nihilism to me, however close they may be. Nothing as everything, personal experience amounting to entireties of the world, or limited, personal worlds. Sartre's Les Mouches was recommended to me, but it's a play and I'm a little unsure of that. I read a collection of Camus short stories, which was enjoyable, but didn't fully get across its existentialism to me. I want to avoid Joyce after reading Dubliners because that seemed like a light introduction and his other work is more of a task. And I'm Irish, so I'm not sure I want to spend all my time with Irish writing. I might be wrong but a lot of Russian work seems to be about the personal/societal divide butting against the internal. Kafka was just funny, and a bit maddening. Possibly too on-the-nose and obvious for me. Apart from that I've mostly been reading (and being disappointed by) Irish lit mags as they come across as a little tame and prosaic, and when they try for experimental it's obfuscated and lacking clarity. Then a few modern authors like Samanta Schweblin's Fever Dream which was the best modern author I've read recently. The two Tramp Press books, McCormack's Solar Bones and Sara Baume's A Line Made by Walking were good, but not revelatory. That's most of my recent reading history, in a nutshell. I'm not a fast reader doing most of it sitting in a beer garden when I can afford to drink and I'm happy to take my time with a book. And I did try to read One Hundred Years of Solitude but that was almost the opposite of what I wanted. All materiality that had to be read into, as a history or folk tale, rather than more internal work.
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Jun 4, 2018 15:14
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Yeah almost anything that's called existentialist is probably a good call. Camus' novels, Dostoyevsky. Anna Karenina maybe if you've got the patience
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Jun 4, 2018 15:22
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Franchescanado posted:I am curious, if anyone cares to post them, to see what are some of the lit thread's favorite covers of books.   
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Jun 4, 2018 15:26
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Mrenda posted:Apart from that I've mostly been reading (and being disappointed by) Irish lit mags as they come across as a little tame and prosaic, and when they try for experimental it's obfuscated and lacking clarity. Then a few modern authors like Samanta Schweblin's Fever Dream which was the best modern author I've read recently. The two Tramp Press books, McCormack's Solar Bones and Sara Baume's A Line Made by Walking were good, but not revelatory. That's most of my recent reading history, in a nutshell. I'm not a fast reader doing most of it sitting in a beer garden when I can afford to drink and I'm happy to take my time with a book. Have you read any Eimear McBride?
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Jun 4, 2018 15:27
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Have you read any Eimear McBride? I picked up A Girl is a Half-formed Thing in the bookshop and read few the first few pages. I'd have to be in a particular frame of mind to get through the whole thing. Potentially that time is now when beer gardens present plenty of opportunity for time killing.
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Jun 4, 2018 15:52
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Franchescanado posted:I am curious, if anyone cares to post them, to see what are some of the lit thread's favorite covers of books.  
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Mrenda posted:I picked up A Girl is a Half-formed Thing in the bookshop and read few the first few pages. I'd have to be in a particular frame of mind to get through the whole thing. Potentially that time is now when beer gardens present plenty of opportunity for time killing. Fair enough, it just stuck out to me as a particularly experimental Irish novel since you mentioned being interested in that
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