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Well that just bungles the joke. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07vdtBMG4Kg
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 00:25 |
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my dad fell asleep during mad max fury road in the theater
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 00:38 |
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Big Bowie Bonanza posted:my dad fell asleep during mad max fury road Hopefully you did the right thing and stopped all communications with him since then.
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 00:40 |
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Bruceski posted:Well sure it gets messy. I don't think there's any kind of movie analysis that isn't messy, particularly not "here's what it meant to me." The issue is that you’re talking in terms of, like, ‘learning humility to earn leadership” - which is generic and vague enough to apply as much to Admiral Holdo as to General Hux. When we look at the specific story of the Resistance’s death and theoretical rebirth as the Rebellion, then the point is that the New Republic was poo poo and has now officially died. Poe and Holdo are representative of their moronic infighting. But the solution is something like ‘maybe we should be vaguely nicer to the poors or animals or something’.
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 01:34 |
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Big Bowie Bonanza posted:my dad fell asleep during mad max fury road
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 01:39 |
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I mentioned it in the gbs thread, but I was getting some light Blankman vibes from that L3 scene. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOGSwRe-QPM
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 01:47 |
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Lol I just saw Solo and the guy next to me fell asleep. I almost joined him, but film was ok I guess.
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 01:50 |
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Gonz posted:Solo is going to feature Han kicking some dude in the balls so hard, the guy shits his pants. Nailed it
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 03:00 |
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Han: Threepio, talk to the Falcon and see if we can get more power. Threepio, in machine language: What do you need to get us more power? We're under fire. L3/Falcon: I need equal rights.
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 03:21 |
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L3 was the best part of the movie
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 03:26 |
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Big Bowie Bonanza posted:my dad fell asleep during mad max fury road I almost did too middle was really boring
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 05:18 |
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The MSJ posted:This would never have happened if everyone voted for Space Bernie. I have no mouth but I must Beep-Boop is better than any line in the loving film.
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 06:50 |
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precision posted:L3 was the best part of the movie That’s almost by default; without L3, there is no science fiction in the entire movie.
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 15:40 |
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There's still lasers and spaceships and junk and planets and rotating magnet trains. Though it is strange they never actually appear to be in space. Star Wars is pretty light on "science fiction" in the first place though.
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 15:50 |
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Lasers, spaceships, junks, planets, and trains already exist. They're not science-fiction.
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 15:59 |
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:Lasers, spaceships, junks, planets, and trains already exist. They're not science-fiction. Interstellar spaceships, ftl travel and giant space battleships do not nor do blaster type weapons. Also something doesn't need to not exist to be science fiction. All the stuff in The Martian and in Gravity exists.
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 16:07 |
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A.I. Borgland Corp posted:All the stuff in The Martian and in Gravity exists. Neither manned missions to Mars nor giant orbiting clouds of space debris exist. Both of them are extrapolations of where current technology might eventually lead, classic sci-fi subject matter. The main speculative component of Star Wars is people interacting with intelligent machines. Once L3 is dead, we're left with a (modestly entertaining) adventure story.
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 16:23 |
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After L3 is dead they interface her brain into their computer, drop raw deteriorating fuel into their fusion reactor, and plot a faster than light course past a gravity well.
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 16:35 |
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A.I. Borgland Corp posted:There's still lasers and spaceships and junk and planets and rotating magnet trains. Bullets and trains aren’t sci-fi, on their own. What is the film saying about guns and trains? With L3, you at least have the sub-Chappie joke where Kira apologizes to L3’s soul - the discarded, dead person - before ripping out a chunk of her brain. So, unlike Lando (and whoever runs the Star Wars promotional Twitter), Kira recognizes that the Navicomputer is not L3. Other Star Wars actually have a lot of sci-fi stuff going on. See the Elysium-style computerized city in ESB, and all the cloning in Attack Of The Clones, etc.
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 16:37 |
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:Lasers, spaceships, junks, planets, and trains already exist. They're not science-fiction. OK, but this movie is set a long long time ago when we didn't have them so it is science-fiction. If I knew how to put a smug robot emoticon thingy here, there would be one here.
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 16:42 |
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A.I. Borgland Corp posted:After L3 is dead they interface her brain into their computer, drop raw deteriorating fuel into their fusion reactor, and plot a faster than light course past a gravity well. Yeah, you're right about the first one. It's not when L3 dies, but when they're done picking apart her corpse. The other two are just lists of buzzwords. There's no fiction about science that I can see.
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 16:49 |
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Jenny Nicholson has a really good point about how lovely it is that the fighter being a woman is played as a twist reveal.
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 16:54 |
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Good thing Star Wars is a fantasy franchise.
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 16:58 |
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Twist should have been that she's the daughter as that's what I thought immediately.
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 16:59 |
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Was a daughter even mentioned at any point?
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 17:03 |
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Vintersorg posted:Twist should have been that she's the daughter as that's what I thought immediately. That was my first thought too; I guess sci-fi/action-adventure storytelling has progressed enough that "this badass warrior is actually a young woman" isn't really a shocker moment for me any more.
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 17:03 |
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A.I. Borgland Corp posted:Interstellar spaceships, ftl travel and giant space battleships do not nor do blaster type weapons. Your definition of science-fiction seems to be "an exaggerated version of real things". It's a survival story, but in near-orbit/Mars, so it's science-fiction. 300 is also for example science-fiction, because while Persians existed, they did not have cave trolls in their armies.
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 17:03 |
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A.I. Borgland Corp posted:Jenny Nicholson has a really good point about how lovely it is that the fighter being a woman is played as a twist reveal. I liked her bits that are basically what some folks in this thread have been saying: there's some deeply weird edits and tone stuff and jokes that were changed or removed as a result of Lord and Miller being removed
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 17:11 |
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:300 is also for example science-fiction, because while Persians existed, they did not have cave trolls in their armies. I think only if the cave trolls were from outer space or had been genetically engineered.
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 17:12 |
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I think 300 has some Frankensteins in it or something
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 17:14 |
Blazing Ownager posted:Also nobody wants a Boba Fett prequel. To do what, bring back a fan favorite previously thought dead character? Because, uh... Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:I am 100% certain that the massacre at the end was Vaders only scene in the initial planning of the film, as an "oh poo poo" cameo, and that the terrible Mustafar scene was whipped up in punch-up or reshoots. It's the exact opposite, actually. thrawn527 fucked around with this message at 17:22 on Jun 4, 2018 |
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 17:18 |
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eyebeem posted:Good thing Star Wars is a fantasy franchise. In A New Hope, for example, the film provides a sci-fi explanation for Luke's 'irrational' belief in magic and whatnot.
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 17:26 |
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thrawn527 posted:It's the exact opposite, actually. Yeah, Edwards said they filmed the hallway scene a few months before release. The Mustafar scene also appears to be a reshoot/rework of a previously shot Vader scene that took place on a Star Destroyer. You can see that in one of the trailers I believe.
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 17:35 |
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Blazing Ownager posted:But less about that I think the bigger problem with Star Wars right now (at least in the main storyline) is the lack of any sort of bonds between characters. Two movies in and ALL of the principle characters have exchanged less than like 10 lines of dialogue. There's no feeling of this tight-knit group they want you to feel. Ray has exchanged like 0 lines of dialogue with half of the cast. 3 pages ago but this is a big reason why I think the OT was is so great: it's a swashbuckling adventure starring the Millennium Falcon. The ST doesn't really have that "center" setpiece that brings everyone together and forces them to talk to each other.
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 17:36 |
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Jedi Knight Luigi posted:3 pages ago but this is a big reason why I think the OT was is so great: it's a swashbuckling adventure starring the Millennium Falcon. The ST doesn't really have that "center" setpiece that brings everyone together and forces them to talk to each other. I understand the intent here, but I think the only time Han Luke and Leia all appear on the Falcon together is after escaping the Death Star in ANH for that brief dogfight
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 17:41 |
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And when they pick up one hand Luke from the cloud city spire
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 17:47 |
A.I. Borgland Corp posted:And when they pick up one hand Luke from the cloud city spire Uh, Han wasn't there for that. For obvious reasons.
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 17:49 |
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Haha yeah. Just cool and good Lando was. Han was chilling with Boba Fett.
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 17:54 |
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Jewmanji posted:I understand the intent here, but I think the only time Han Luke and Leia all appear on the Falcon together is after escaping the Death Star in ANH for that brief dogfight I think the next spaceship they all appear on together is Home One and then the shuttle Tyderium
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 18:00 |
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jivjov posted:I think the next spaceship they all appear on together is Home One and then the shuttle Tyderium Tydirium
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