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Assuming that it is hd video streaming causing the problem then if they throttle that it won't really affect gamers playing games as long as pings are low right? So that would just make them a good scape goat for olds to grumble about, the punitive action not really hurting gamers but soothing other users?
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Tasmantor posted:Assuming that it is hd video streaming causing the problem then if they throttle that it won't really affect gamers playing games as long as pings are low right? So that would just make them a good scape goat for olds to grumble about, the punitive action not really hurting gamers but soothing other users? It's a guy under pressure in interviews stumbling over words and concepts referencing poo poo people don't understand. Some of it comes from a literal shouting argument he was having. He used gamers as an example of high usage customers (which they are) and no doubt the only people that are going to breach current of future fair use policies are NEET poopsocking streamers with fifty pornhub tabs open.
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"Who could have guessed people would want and use bandwidth?" An actual person, tyool 2018.
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Tasmantor posted:Assuming that it is hd video streaming causing the problem then if they throttle that it won't really affect gamers playing games as long as pings are low right? So that would just make them a good scape goat for olds to grumble about, the punitive action not really hurting gamers but soothing other users? he’s talking about people who watch twitch streams, not people who play games generally now, whether australians who watch twitch streams use more bandwidth than australians who watch any other kind of streaming media is an open question
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Jun 5, 2018 01:26
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BBJoey posted:he’s talking about people who watch twitch streams, not people who play games generally They probably do if they're the type that has hinged their entire lifestyle and personality around being a gamer so they may live many lives instead of not having on to begin with.
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i definitely believe that if you looked at the top 100 individuals by bandwidth usage, most if not all would be gamers. that said i feel watching netflix, iview, youtube etc takes up more bandwidth as a whole than nerds watching video games i base this on no evidence and might be entirely wrong
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BBJoey posted:i definitely believe that if you looked at the top 100 individuals by bandwidth usage, most if not all would be gamers. that said i feel watching netflix, iview, youtube etc takes up more bandwidth as a whole than nerds watching video games Yeah individual users is gamers for sure but total would have to be streaming video. Think about the cretin streaming to twitch with another twitch open as the play a game with Spotify looping through a Skrillex curated list ad infinitum.
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Jun 5, 2018 01:38
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I agree with the NBN man that we should ban gaming
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racing identity posted:I agree with the NBN man that we should ban gamers
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JBP posted:Yeah individual users is gamers for sure but total would have to be streaming video. Think about the cretin streaming to twitch with another twitch open as the play a game with Spotify looping through a Skrillex curated list ad infinitum. i’m not sure on the claim that australian internet, particularly wireless internet, is capable of uploading streaming video.
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Jun 5, 2018 01:54
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Realistically, Netflix, Stan, Amazon etc shouldn't create big bandwidth issues if you collocate mirrors in each state or at least in Sydney/Melbourne to prevent all that traffic going overseas. I think this is already the case. The problem here is that the Coalition cheaped out and built a network segment or implemented a technology (fixed wireless) without sufficient resilience to handle even the local traffic and now it's hosed.
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Jun 5, 2018 01:54
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For the first time since federation Australia now has more people aged over 45 than aged under 30. Expect this to grow because people around the age of 30 (hey, most of us) dont have stable enployment, housing or are thinking about kuds or marriage.
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Jun 5, 2018 01:58
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But I thought the LNP said we'd never need to use all of the internet they were giving us, which is why they could cheap out on the plans for the future. How is it possible we've hit this point where we need to throttle gamers to death already?
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Jun 5, 2018 01:59
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Just imagine where we would have been right now without the NBN, lucky Turnbull was around to save it!
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Anidav posted:Qantas has changed thier business operations to state that Taiwan is not a seperate country I wonder if the China defenders will log on when the naval embargo starts
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JBP posted:Yeah individual users is gamers for sure but total would have to be streaming video. Think about the cretin streaming to twitch with another twitch open as the play a game with Spotify looping through a Skrillex curated list ad infinitum. Yeah what kind of gormless cretin would design infrastructure to support entirely predictable usage patterns?
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hooman posted:Yeah what kind of gormless cretin would design infrastructure to support entirely predictable usage patterns? Malcolm Turnbull. Is this rhetorical?
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To be fair, streaming video is an entirely new phenomenon that was utterly unpredictable 5 years ago, as was playing games on the internet
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My favourite bit is that it's already stupid and pointless to buy a HD TVs in anything over about 49", almost all of the 4K TVs out there have Android or some other Netflix capable OS running on them, and can probably manage 4K streams. So basically the demand is already there for multiple 35+ Mb/sec video streams and the fact that we're not rolling out gigabit capable services is laughable - let alone that the current infrastructure can't even cope with 100 on something north of 50% of services.
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Jun 5, 2018 02:32
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Only nostradamus could have predicted this outco.. oh wait nevermind.
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hooman posted:Only nostradamus could have predicted this outco.. You buy bluray discs at a shop.
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Also for relevance you probably want to reference UHD bluray.
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JBP posted:You buy bluray discs at a shop.
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CrazyTolradi posted:Would you download a bluray disc? No but I'd steal a handbag.
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-05/mortgage-choice-franchisees-set-to-revolt-commissions-targets/9835230quote:Mortgage Choice, one of Australia's biggest publicly listed mortgage brokers, faces a revolt from almost half its franchisees who claim the business model is squeezing them dry and pushing many into financial stress.
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JBP posted:No but I'd steal a handbag.
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CrazyTolradi posted:JBP admits he'd gladly mug handbag havers, wow, problematic much? if by handbag havers you mean shops same
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hooman posted:Yeah what kind of gormless cretin would design infrastructure to support entirely predictable usage patterns? you say they are “entirely predictable” but who could have envisioned that people would use the internet to watch videos in the ancient past of 2012
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GoldStandardConure posted:if by handbag havers you mean shops
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BBJoey posted:you say they are “entirely predictable” but who could have envisioned that people would use the internet to watch videos in the ancient past of 2012
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CrazyTolradi posted:JBP isn't made of stern enough stuff to take on businesses that way. something something union thugs *JBP batters a shop assistant with his Versace lawyer briefcase*
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5G is apparently going to make fixed line NBN redundant yet fixed wireless is congested and hosed.  Also mortgage broking is basically a Ponzi scheme for boomers.
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CrazyTolradi posted:What is YouTube? 
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The great joke is that you could have looked at how S.Korea or places with really good internet in 2012 were using it and extrapolated, but nope, lets assume that Australia's usage on poo poo-ternet will remain unchanging like some stone monument to our own lack of foresight. EDIT: Guardian Essential poll showing the ALP ahead of the Coalition 54% to 46% hooman fucked around with this message at 04:55 on Jun 5, 2018 |
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CrazyTolradi posted:JBP isn't made of stern enough stuff to take on businesses that way. True, even I am above working for the SDA.
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JBP posted:True, even I am above working for the SDA.
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CrazyTolradi posted:You can't say you rejected them if they rejected you. Are you suggesting that's not something you would wear as a badge of honour?
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hooman posted:
We must be overdue for some leadership speculation?
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Don Dongington posted:Are you suggesting that's not something you would wear as a badge of honour?
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