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I'm imaging projects being lost cause you gotta pay for anything more than 100mb.
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Plorkyeran posted:Writing to a pipe is not materially different perf-wise than writing to a temporary file. The temporary file typically will not actually hit disk, and the main overhead is just creating the fs entry, which will be dwarfed by the time spent actually compiling the file. Ask me about trying to figure out why an entire gpfs cluster began running super slow whenever 1 user application has been running for awhile 
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Jun 4, 2018 05:18
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Nude posted:I'm imaging projects being lost cause you gotta pay for anything more than 100mb. Think what you will of Microsoft but they're unlikely to somehow leverage an acquisition of Github into corrupting Junio Hamano to the dark side and changing the behavior of git itself. If a Github project is used enough that someone has bothered to clone it then it'll still be trivially easy to push that clone to some other remote. What's realistically at risk of being lost in case of catastrophic Github failure or stupidity are things like issue tracking and pull requests, not so much source code. Losing those things would certainly be annoying for the project in question, but probably not cataclysmic. If the acquisition happens and Microsoft does do something stupid and open source unfriendly -- which is certainly possible -- then the realistic worst case scenario is that while Github slowly gets absorbed into the Visual Studio ecosystem, Gitlab/Bitbucket/whatever compete for the best transition and import tools and poo poo just quietly moves over. Realistically I'd expect the main impact it'll have on typical github users will be direct support for Microsoft-y things like Git Virtual File System and Visual Studio Team Services, plus maybe a Microsoft-friendly site redesign. Their goal with something like this is at least in part to get open source software devs to write useful things on and for windows, not bully them for their piddly lunch money or otherwise drive them away to other platforms. Microsoft has 1835 open source repositories on github, they have an interest in not loving it up. There's certainly a lot of potential for them loving it up anyhow but that will be years down the road, not overnight.
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Jun 4, 2018 05:58
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Yeah, if Microsoft fucks up GitHub it will be due to incompetence, not maliciousness. Microsoft is almost excessively invested in open source now, to the point where it feels like they're driven by guilt due to their past sins. I can see them Microsofting up the UI, and also trying to push .NET, Visual Studio, Azure, etc. through the tools and UX. GitHub accounts will probably be merged with Live accounts at some point. I don't see them charging extra or otherwise inconveniencing regular OS projects. I imagine many companies using private GitHub repos will (understandably) move away. I just hope we don't also get a mass exodus of open source projects solely because of anti-MS sentiment, which is honestly 10 years out of date at this point.
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Jun 4, 2018 08:33
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It looks like you're trying to clone this repo! Can I help?
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Jun 4, 2018 09:02
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LOOK I AM A TURTLE posted:Yeah, if Microsoft fucks up GitHub it will be due to incompetence, not maliciousness. Microsoft is almost excessively invested in open source now, to the point where it feels like they're driven by guilt due to their past sins. They are going to replace the GitExtensions interface with some app-like bullshit even for the desktop, like they did with Skype, and I'm already mad.
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Jun 4, 2018 13:16
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Xerophyte posted:Think what you will of Microsoft but they're unlikely to somehow leverage an acquisition of Github into corrupting Junio Hamano to the dark side and changing the behavior of git itself. Google beat them to the punch many years ago anyway, and thankfully they've been hands-off.
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Jun 4, 2018 13:57
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I really hope people give it a chance because every time I have to use another online git repo thingy I'm thinking "gently caress, why couldn't they just use github, it's UI is so much better (or what I'm used to because everyone else uses it)".
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Jun 4, 2018 15:26
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i really hope they add that slowly animating popup thing telling me to use Edge like they do to msdn docs.
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Jun 4, 2018 17:55
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Boss posted this to teams this morning, I assume he saw it on reddit.
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Jun 4, 2018 18:08
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Absurd Alhazred posted:They are going to replace the GitExtensions interface with some app-like bullshit even for the desktop, like they did with Skype, and I'm already mad. Git Extensions is a separate thing and is actually cool and good.
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Jun 4, 2018 22:26
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Thermopyle posted:...what I'm used to because everyone else uses it... Literally Microsoft's market strategy for the last two decades.
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Jun 5, 2018 05:45
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Thermopyle posted:I really hope people give it a chance because every time I have to use another online git repo thingy I'm thinking "gently caress, why couldn't they just use github, it's UI is so much better (or what I'm used to because everyone else uses it)". It's not just what you're used to. I can't speak for gitlab (never used it) but github is miles better than bitbucket in every metric. It's faster, waaaay faster, which is really sad considering that github is often really slow, but like all Atlassian products Bitbucket is a slow lumbering beast for no reason. Also has way more features and a much, much more functional UI. We use bitbucket at my new job and man I really miss github. All my coworkers spent this morning talking about how horrible MS is after the news of the acquisition came out. They're all old and their gripes against MS are that they replaced VB with .NET  Their hatred would be much better pointed at Atlassian who only make garbage products 
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Jun 5, 2018 06:17
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Taffer posted:They're all old and their gripes against MS are that they replaced VB with .NET WHO in their right mind still pines for visual loving basic???
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Jun 5, 2018 09:29
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SupSuper posted:If you mean the GitHub desktop client, it's already the worst Git UI available so I don't see how they could make it worse. Oh, in that case I am much relieved, because that's what we use at work. Taffer posted:It's not just what you're used to. I can't speak for gitlab (never used it) but github is miles better than bitbucket in every metric. It's faster, waaaay faster, which is really sad considering that github is often really slow, but like all Atlassian products Bitbucket is a slow lumbering beast for no reason. Also has way more features and a much, much more functional UI. I've never really had any issues with Bitbucket, but I rarely use its interfaces - it's just our remote repository as far as I'm concerned.  Unrelated: Is this the right thread to laugh at this? https://twitter.com/appleinsider/status/1003762097048768514
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Jun 5, 2018 12:35
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Honestly the complaints I've seen about Microsoft acquiring GitHub just stink of "I haven't updated my view of the software development world in 10 years" and I just roll my eyes.
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Jun 5, 2018 13:18
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Yeah, it's not like Microsoft is perfect or anything but I'd expected people to do better than "M$" and Clippy memes.
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Jun 5, 2018 13:29
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Sagacity posted:Yeah, it's not like Microsoft is perfect or anything but I'd expected people to do better than "M$" and Clippy memes. No you wouldn't, this is what you would expect.
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Jun 5, 2018 13:39
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I mean it’s a little uncomfortable to me that github is part of a different platform now, changing its fiscal and business incentives. I can’t really put my finger on any concrete bad thing - like there’s no reason to migrate off of gh now because MICROSOFT is in control if you were already ok with a WHOLE DIFFERENT COMPAny HOSTING YOUR CODE but it just... makes me uncomfortable.
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Jun 5, 2018 13:53
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Gitlab is cool and good. I use a self hosted CE version at work and it works well enough for what we need it for.
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Jun 5, 2018 14:56
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My primary concern is very dumb and petty: I like github's ui and it's probably going to change.Absurd Alhazred posted:Unrelated: Is this the right thread to laugh at this? Oh Apple, never change. And by never change I mean continue to declare that you are changing and anyone who doesn't like it can go suck dicks in hell.
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Jun 5, 2018 15:17
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The only thing that bugs me about the Microsoft purchase is the trend of everything becoming owned by megacorporations, but I guess that's capitalism for you.hackbunny posted:WHO in their right mind still pines for visual loving basic???
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Jun 5, 2018 15:19
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hackbunny posted:WHO in their right mind still pines for visual loving basic??? Hacker News's greatest son: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8545606 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16085037
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Sagacity posted:Yeah, it's not like Microsoft is perfect or anything but I'd expected people to do better than "M$" and Clippy memes. Lower your expectations. Case in point, check out the GVFS project for some hot takes, such as "PoopVFS" and "Rename GVFS to "M$vfs"'. Wow, some other project also used those 4 letters, clearly this is microsoft up to no good and certainly not a reasonable effort to improve git so that it can be used with literally the biggest repo ever, which oh yeah, is one of microsoft's flagship products. It clearly takes more patience than would I have not to close, lock, and ban these idiots.
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Jun 5, 2018 15:58
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Unrelated: Is this the right thread to laugh at this? The real horror is that anyone was treating OSX OpenGL as "supported" when it hasn't been updated for 8 years. This deprecation is just a formality, for all intents and purposes it was already deprecated.
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Jun 5, 2018 16:04
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I'm upset at the GitHub thing because they made an unprofitable company and are being rewarded with more Microsoft stock than the CEO. Like, maybe don't give the people who can't make sustainable file hosting $8 billion dollars???
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Jun 5, 2018 16:46
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Unrelated: Is this the right thread to laugh at this? OpenGL on the Mac hasn't been updated in almost a decade. Its deprecation has been expected for some time.
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Suspicious Dish posted:I'm upset at the GitHub thing because they made an unprofitable company and are being rewarded with more Microsoft stock than the CEO. Like, maybe don't give the people who can't make sustainable file hosting $8 billion dollars??? We're they trying to make a sustainable company in the amount of time they've existed or were they angling for acquisition all along?
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Jun 5, 2018 17:20
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fritz posted:Hacker News's greatest son: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8545606 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16085037 has that guy posted a single top post there less than 4 paragraphs in length
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bob dobbs is dead posted:has that guy posted a single top post there less than 4 paragraphs in length
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Jun 5, 2018 17:42
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SupSuper posted:https://visualstudio.uservoice.com/forums/121579-visual-studio-ide/suggestions/3440221-bring-back-classic-visual-basic-an-improved-versi It's literally impossible to write good code in Visual Basic, these people are insane. I learned programming in Visual Basic and it took me years of academic courses to undo the harm
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Factor Mystic posted:Lower your expectations. :vomit: Why are people so terrible? Thermopyle posted:We're they trying to make a sustainable company in the amount of time they've existed or were they angling for acquisition all along? It is a startup, search your heart.
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Jun 5, 2018 18:47
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fritz posted:Hacker News's greatest son: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8545606 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16085037 Tag yourself, I'm the reply confessing that my SQL queries come straight from the client.
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Jun 5, 2018 19:02
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https://snyk.io/research/zip-slip-vulnerability Specification allowing for creation of directory traversal entries kind of bothers me
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boo_radley posted:Tag yourself, I'm the reply confessing that my SQL queries come straight from the client. i'm the "easy-to-use" berkley sockets api.
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Thermopyle posted:We're they trying to make a sustainable company in the amount of time they've existed or were they angling for acquisition all along? if i've learned anything from my last 4 years of living in san francisco, it's that startup have no idea what they're doing and basically float on by until they run out of money
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Xarn posted::vomit: Why must the evil behemoth Mikkkro$oft steal all the valor and goodwill by copying the acronym of the well-known and widely-used project, uh *squints*... GNOME Virtual File System? boo_radley posted:Tag yourself, I'm the reply confessing that my SQL queries come straight from the client. I'll be the startup unironically making new .aspx.vb files in hellyear 2018
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Suspicious Dish posted:I'm upset at the GitHub thing because they made an unprofitable company and are being rewarded with more Microsoft stock than the CEO. Like, maybe don't give the people who can't make sustainable file hosting $8 billion dollars??? Twitter is a publicly traded company and has never made a dollar in profit ever. The whole point of tech companies is to get acquired. That's the only exit strategy that exists.
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poemdexter posted:Twitter is a publicly traded company and has never made a dollar in profit ever. The whole point of tech companies is to get acquired. That's the only exit strategy that exists. Counterpoint: Amazon took like 15 years to post a profit, not because they didn't have a solid business but because they kept plowing their revenue back into the company.
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lotta tech companies doing boring business poo poo makin bank twitter's anomalous in having fended off multiple acquisition offers because of the naziism of the users. also naziism of ceo, lol
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