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Another “what the teams are working on” update: https://www.totalwar.com/blog/what-the-teams-are-working-on-june-2018 3 Kingdoms news finally coming later this week, and with E3 just after there’ll probably be a deluge of stuff to talk about. The new campaign pack for Rome 2 will get revealed soon too, probably at E3.
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That specific Northumbria vassal gets autoannexed when you kill Westmoringas. Also, you absolutely shouldn’t sit around waiting for units to replnish, especially when campaigning for minor cities.
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Jun 5, 2018 18:57
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Creative Assembly posted:Those who have been craving a little more gore as they raid, pillage and, conquer will be pleased to hear that a Blood Pack is currently in development. It will be similar in scope to the Blood & Burning pack for Attila, sharing some of its effects, along with new content created just for Thrones. Aww poo poo, let me remind you how I totally called this a few pages back and got loled at.
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Jun 5, 2018 19:22
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Dramicus posted:Aww poo poo, let me remind you how I totally called this a few pages back and got loled at. Ha, loser. Being right about things is lame. I'm really dissatisfied with the Wessex campaign. I expected more infighting to stop the inevitable tide of the biggest power in the game, but nah, Alfred's just kinda great.
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3K now delayed to Spring 2019  Also first in engine trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhhHecSt3LM GuardianOfAsgaard fucked around with this message at 15:11 on Jun 6, 2018 |
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Jun 6, 2018 15:07
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:Ha, loser. Being right about things is lame. That is why it is so much fun being a power nearby Wessex as it gives you a good midgame challenge in trying to oppose him.
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GuardianOfAsgaard posted:3K now delayed to Spring 2019 I really, really like what I'm hearing of the music so far. Tough to say anything about the gameplay yet but the music is perfect. Can't complaint too much about the game being pushed back really. I'd definitely prefer that they do this one right and not rush it out to meet a deadline.
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GuardianOfAsgaard posted:3K now delayed to Spring 2019 Xiahou Dun confirmed! If there's not a day-1 gigantic scimitar mod I'll be very disappointed. Also, new dev blog, which confirms both Lame Historically Accurate Mode and Totally Kickass Dynasty Warriors Mode quote:How does Classic Mode differ?
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I'll wait, It's gonna be great. Plus I am curious to see what they'll experiment with next in the Flashpoint pressure cooker.
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Jun 6, 2018 15:25
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gently caress, that's a great way to do it. Shame about the delay but what with no news coming out for ages, I think people were already sorta expecting it. I just hope it's good when it comes.
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Jun 6, 2018 15:33
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Love that there are two different modes, now everyone's happy!
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Jun 6, 2018 15:39
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Best part is, all it does is swap a unit out with another unit. Balance shouldn't be fucky since all they need to do is buff/nerf Cao Cao (default) or Cao Cao (Classic Bodyguard) if it gets out of hand.
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:Love that there are two different modes, now everyone's happy! but I don't want to play pontus
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Cool trailer. I'm glad they have Classic mode, even if that makes me boring. e: Oh, the mystery historian was Rafe de Crespigny. That's a pretty good get. Mantis42 fucked around with this message at 17:21 on Jun 6, 2018 |
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Jun 6, 2018 17:08
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Mantis42 posted:Cool trailer. I'm glad they have Classic mode, even if that makes me boring. Honestly, I really liked the fantasy games and I think they have the best battles in the series, and I still plan on playing with Classic mode because it feels more natural in a historical setting.
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Third World Reggin posted:but I don't want to play pontus Who'd be Three Kingdoms Era Pontus anyway?
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there's no loving shortage of them there's a decent number of characters and factions who are brought up solely so one of the Big Boys can demonstrate the largeness and aggressive nature of their sons. biggest one is probably Dong Zhuo, who is straight out of central Evil Vizier casting
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Ze Pollack posted:there's no loving shortage of them Dong Zhou is a huge deal though, and he's got a whole roster of vassals and other characters associated him like Lu Bu. Pontus is more like Liu Biao or Zhang Xiu or someone who didn't even get a unique character model in Dynasty Warriors
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ninjahedgehog posted:Dong Zhou is a huge deal though, and he's got a whole roster of vassals and other characters associated him like Lu Bu. Pontus is more like Liu Biao or Zhang Xiu or someone who didn't even get a unique character model in Dynasty Warriors fair point. he's the reason the Han dynasty falls, but he's also very much the story you tell so you can get to the actual story: "the last han emperor was installed as a child by this jerk. he was a jerk. oh man, this guy. huge jerk. moved the capital to Jerk City, to greater facilitate his being a jerk. his death at the hands of an incredibly stupid ruse marks the last time the Han dynasty had any independent power to speak of, and the beginning of those Three Kingdoms in the title."
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Daddy Zhuo was the best, especially in the tv show, and he better be in the drat game or else!
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Dong Zhuo is the Wario of Three Kingdoms.
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I hope the game doesn't have a single achievement for classic mode, cementing it's uselessness to the general playerbase.
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Considering the most grognardy flipped their poo poo about the game franchise coming to STEAM in the first place I doubt that'll wound them much.
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right, so even though we're not getting this for another year, what's some good three kingdoms related media to get into? i could read the book, but i'm probably not gonna do that. i could also play the games, but i'm not gonna do that either. so are there tv shows or movies worth watching that go into it?
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Plavski posted:right, so even though we're not getting this for another year, what's some good three kingdoms related media to get into? i could read the book, but i'm probably not gonna do that. i could also play the games, but i'm not gonna do that either. so are there tv shows or movies worth watching that go into it? This is one of the best depictions of Three Kingdoms on TV. Keep an eye out for Cao Cao, the Most Magnificent Bastard.
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The 2010 TV show was well received and John Woo's Red Cliffs is a good watch.
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Is the book a good read/are there recommended translations?
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Plavski posted:right, so even though we're not getting this for another year, what's some good three kingdoms related media to get into? i could read the book, but i'm probably not gonna do that. i could also play the games, but i'm not gonna do that either. so are there tv shows or movies worth watching that go into it?  The new series was worth it for Liu Bei: Father of the Year.
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The Moss Roberts translation is the best and includes plenty of footnotes that help give context to a lot of what happens. I haven't read the whole thing, since its loooong, but it moves at a pretty quick pace.
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I'll second that the unabridged Moss Roberts translation really good. But it's not a short work. The full Romance of the Three Kingdoms is about as long as the entire KJ Bible.
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Leave the baby keep the general. EDIT: https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2018/06/06/creative-assembly-tactical-fps-hires/ Interesting. Hope it works out for them. SeanBeansShako fucked around with this message at 21:33 on Jun 6, 2018 |
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GuardianOfAsgaard posted:3K now delayed to Spring 2019 Wanna bet that the game won't come out until late September, 2019?
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Mantis42 posted:John Woo's Red Cliffs is a good watch. Is that the one where all the "good guys" capture Cao Cao and tell him that he lost because he has no friends? Bleh. Dude was famous for being able to win over subordinates to his cause, damnit.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Is the book a good read/are there recommended translations? http://www.3kingdomspodcast.com
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Cao Cao story: After defeating a regional rival, the sons of his rival fled to the northern tribes for refuge. Cao Cao decided to go after them, but a number of his advisors vehemently protested - the terrain was difficult, the logistics were bad, the army needed to rest, and the sons were effectively defanged without their power base anyways. Cao Cao overrode their protests and went north anyhow, and after a long, difficult campaign managed to win victory and return in triumph and glory with the heads of his enemies proudly displayed. After returning to his capital, he immediately summoned all the ministers who had protested his victorious campaign. In fear and trembling they arrived, but were surprised to find themselves richly rewarded. Cao Cao then gave them a short speech, saying essentially "Yeah holy poo poo that campaign was a terrible idea, I only just about managed to survive by the skin of my teeth thanks to good luck. I hope in the future you'll continue telling me that I'm being a stupid loving idiot when I'm being a stupid loving idiot." He was a lot more polite about it than my paraphrase, obviously. Edit: PYF Three Kingdoms stories, especially the ones that probably weren't historically accurate Tomn fucked around with this message at 22:32 on Jun 6, 2018 |
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i kind of wish they'd just do a unified mode where they're just the hero units from shogun 2
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Tomn posted:Edit: PYF Three Kingdoms stories, especially the ones that probably weren't historically accurate I like Sun Quan sending generals on a suicide mission to find China's equivalent of Atlantis. quote:Sun Quan had a history of unusual behavior. In his younger years, this behavior was somewhat odd but mostly harmless. For example, when Zhou Tai was being disrespected by his subordinates, Sun Quan had him remove his clothing at a banquet in order to display his many battle scars. Having Zhou Tai tell the story behind all of them earned him the respect of his underlings. When Lü Meng was deathly ill, Sun Quan watched him sleep through a hole in the wall because he didn’t want to disturb Lü Meng’s rest but wanted to keep an eye on him. As isolated incidents, these seem a little strange but ultimately more-or less understandable. But in light of Sun Quan’s later behavior, they start to look like signs of some sort of mental illness. Archlich on tumblr is a cool guy to look up for interesting RotTK stories. Blooming Brilliant fucked around with this message at 22:51 on Jun 6, 2018 |
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Here's another story. In the trailer, you'll notice a dude with an eyepatch bowing to Cao Cao. That's Xiahou Dun, one of Cao Cao's most important generals. Now, how did he lose his eye? Well...quote:Now the division of Cao Cao's army under Xiahou Dun, having marched out in advance, first came into touch with Gao Shun. Xiahou Dun at once rode out with spear set and offered a challenge. It was accepted and the two leaders fought half a hundred bouts. Then Gao Shun began to weaken and had to turn back. He rode round to the rear of his array. Xiahou Dun was not the man to quail, so he followed right into the enemy's country. Then Cao Xing, one of Lu Bu's generals, secretly strung his bow, fitted an arrow and, when Xiahou Dun had come quite near, shot at him. The arrow hit Xiahou Dun full in the left eye. He shrieked, and putting up his head, pulled out the arrow and with it the eye.
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Tomn posted:Is that the one where all the "good guys" capture Cao Cao and tell him that he lost because he has no friends? I don't really remember but probably. It's not exactly a classic but it has its moments.
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Tomn posted:Cao Cao story: you can really tell from early on that Liu Bei is the guy who's going to go on to found the next dynasty, because HOLY poo poo the text cannot get enough of sucking him off, and thus, all his losses must be explained through either "no, seriously, he's just THAT humble" or "do you have any idea how stupid his buddies were" see, for example, the case of How Liu Bei Lost His Home Territory To Lu Bu Liu Bei, being good rulership, humility, and kindness incarnate, knew he was being called away from his home as part of a ploy to take his territory from him. but, being Liu Bei, nobly and honorably answered the summons anyway, and before he left had to figure out who was going to be in charge in his absence said Liu Bei's designated anger translator Hot Blooded Fighting Anime Character IRL Zhang Fei, "i got you, dawg" said Liu Bei: "you are going to get shitfaced and gently caress it all up. no." said Zhang Fei: "no, honestly, I swear on our friendship, no wine's gonna pass my lips until you return." said Liu Bei: "yeah okay sure, since you swear" the second Liu Bei is over the horizon, Zhang Fei announces "okay, we are throwing the rager to end all ragers tonight, so I am so loving hungover the very thought of another drop of wine is unbearable for at least, like a few weeks" Lu Bu shows up the next morning with his army, literally everyone in the garrison is drunk or hungover, Lu Bu wins without any meaningful resistance, and the tatters of the garrison led by Zhang Fei catch up to Liu Bei, announcing "soooo, I did a thiiiing, that maaaaay or may not have been exactly that thing you said I'd do and I swore I wouldn't do. and oh PS Lu Bu's got all our wives and kids now because of it." Liu Bei facepalms, extremely hard, and then snaps on Zhang Fei because he's drawing his sword to commit suicide. "you loving moron, i can get another wife and kids, I cannot get another one of you. we are marching back there. and I say we, meaning that your rear end is going to be in the very back of the procession and tasked with not saying a goddamned thing, because we can probably smooth this over if Lu Bu and I can both blame this tragic misunderstanding on what a complete fuckup you are." Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! fucked around with this message at 22:59 on Jun 6, 2018 |
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