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Chiwie posted:How the gently caress do you look at orks and say "You know what this needs? Nazis." Easy; You be the sort of person who looks at minorities with jobs, or women who don't have sex with you because you tell them to, or basically any power structure where you're not captain big dick and say the same thing. From that perspective, 28mm soldiers is easy.
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Chiwie posted:How the gently caress do you look at orks and say "You know what this needs? Nazis." 
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Maneck posted:That's a very special post you found there. These dudes are basically the gamer version of guys ranting about the Rothschilds or the NWO or whatever. Pathetic. Shockeh posted:Easy; You be the sort of person who looks at minorities with jobs, or women who don't have sex with you because you tell them to, or basically any power structure where you're not captain big dick and say the same thing. From that perspective, 28mm soldiers is easy. Or in the case of Stormboyz, you may also be an 80s GW designer.
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Jun 7, 2018 14:27
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The Orkstaffel are a commentary on the stupidity of nazism, clearly the creator is saying that only someone with the intelligence of an Ork would support Hitler.
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Jun 7, 2018 14:34
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Artel W has a Cherubael coming out. Looks better than the GW one at least although: you know, tallest Scrunt... E: Actually, the crappy old Daemonhost isn't on the site anymore. This doesn't look as good as the Forgeworld Rogue Psyker TBH.
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Jun 7, 2018 14:38
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Fought against an Imperial Fists list last night. Was a pretty fluffy list which was nice because my list isn't very good either. Captain with storm shield and teeth of terra Captain with thunder hammer and armor indomitus Lysander 3 rhinos, each containing 5 tac marines with plasma and combi plasma, and 5 sternguard with storm bolters and chainswords 3 devastator squads, each with 8 marines, 3 heavy bolters, a lascannon, and a cherub 5 cataphractii 10 vanguard, half with plasma pistols and chainswords, half with storm shields and chainswords I had my crimson fists. Pedro Kantor Primaris Lt Jump librarian Jump chaplain with fist of vengeance 2x5 intercessors 5 sniper scouts 2x5 hellblasters 5 vanguard with a thunder hammer, lightning claws, a few stormshields and chainswords Devastator squad with 6 marines, 2 lascannons, missile, heavy bolter Primaris ancient with relic banner Contemptor Ironclad I forgot to take more pictures unfortunately. He had a really nice airbrushed yellow Imperial Fists force. We played The Scouring, with the major objective being the one off to the flank in the crater using a larger marker.  He had two rhinos on the right flank, one in the middle, the devastators all on the left side with a captain while the thunder hammer captain hung out with rhinos. My scouts were deployed inside the large building on the left, both of those central buildings have objectives. First floor blocks LOS. He gets first turn, pops all his armorium cherubs to kill my dreadnought. The rhino in the middle piled out and had everyone inside charge my scouts, killing 3 of them. Wasn't able to get guys into the ruin to see them so no shooting first which is how they were able to survive. My turn 1 I set my devastators up on the rooftop of those ruins and have everyone else start moving up to get in range to shoot devastators, I kill a couple of them with my devastators. My force in the center moves up to engage his dudes in the building, aggressors go HAM on his sternguard dropping 10 power fist hits on them because of Pedro's bubble, so I wipe the sternguard unit in there and 2 of the tac marines (most of my units failed their charges). My ironclad fired two HKs into one of the rhinos with Wisdom of the Ancients and did 3 damage. Turn 2 his devastators get some good shooting in, wiping my devastator squad (failing all of my 3+ banner rolls) and dropping a few hellblasters and intercessors. I have my guys steadily move up through the building, the aggressors come out and charge a rhino and drop it to 1 wound. My intercessors drop near the major objective and wipe a devastator squad, my vanguard and chaplain drop on the other side of this contested building and the vanguard pass their charge to go into another rhino.  His deep strikers arrive turn 3. Vanguard drop to try to blast my inceptors away with plasma shots, but I auspex scan his rear end and kill like half of them with my reroll bubbles so I only end up losing 1 inceptor. Cataphractii drop in my backfield, lysander drops behind the building my right flank intercessors are moving into. He piles out all his marines from the rhinos and starts hammering poo poo with fire, wiping my aggressors with plasma shots and dropping the vanguard to just the sgt. My left flank intercessor squad is down to 1 model after another round of shooting from remaining devastators, and his teeth of terra captain charges and kills that dude. His thunder hammer captain charges up into my building and kills the scouts, then engages a unit of hellblasters. Ironclad tangos with his cataphractii, because they're all lightning claw dudes except for 1 with a power fist they do fuckall against his T8. My inceptors and hellblasters drop a second devastator squad, pedro and my Lt roll up and kill his captain, my Librarian is loving poo poo up all over the place. Smites one five-man for 3, throws a krak grenade at another and kills a dude then with Might of Heroes he kills the remaining 4 with his force sword. Chaplain kills a rhino with fist of vengeance, vanguard sgt kills another rhino with thunder hammer. I put a couple of plasma shots into his storm shield captain and one overcharge shot goes through. Turn 4 his storm shield captain charges into my stuff and finishes off a unit of hellblasters, he ends up getting punked by my primaris ancient and another hellblaster unit in melee with Pedro's aura up, the plasma shot earlier left him hurt enough that he was killed. Remaining devastators drop my inceptor squad. At this point it's basically a mopup operation, lysander failed a charge into my intercessor squad sitting in a building and then my jump chaplain goes over and kills him in one go with Fist of Vengeance. Called it at that point, all that was left was 2 devastators, a rhino, a vew vanguard tying up guys with chainswords, and a couple of terminators still fighting my ironclad. chutche2 fucked around with this message at 14:47 on Jun 7, 2018 |
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Chiwie posted:How the gently caress do you look at orks and say "You know what this needs? Nazis." The best part about Ork fluff is that they have literal Stormboyz who represent Orks who haven't loving grown up yet. Ork lore says that when a boy gets old enough he starts to have weird feelings of discipline and starts seeking out like-minded individuals. These boyz form Stormboy mobs, wear uniforms, march in formation, bark orders, and are wildly regarded as the funniest loving thing by everyone else. Eventually the boy grows up and joins the rest of the band in laughing at the marching gits with the black uniforms and rokkits strapped to their backs.
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Jun 7, 2018 14:50
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Im the XBOCKS-HUEG d20  CP counter. Also, do you happen to know where the building it's sitting on top of is from? I like it's look.
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Schadenboner posted:Im the XBOCKS-HUEG d20. Also, do you happen to know where the building it's sitting on top of is from? I like it's look. Yeah I have no idea, they're great. He uses that d20 for command points which is really handy. Not so handy when for half the game there's melee going on in one of those buildings and you're constantly having to pick up up to move guys around, hence all the dice around it to mark its sides
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Jun 7, 2018 14:53
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Yeah, to read Orks as in any way pro-Nazi is to staggeringly miss the point. They are the bottom rung sad bastards in a society explicitly constructed of moron stereotypes to laugh at.
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:Yeah, to read Orks as in any way pro-Nazi is to staggeringly miss the point. Rightists: a population well-known for their understanding of subtlety, irony, and metaphor.
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Jun 7, 2018 14:55
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Hencoe posted:X-Posting because poorly painted expensive mans should be shared. I like that wall of metal.
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Chiwie posted:How the gently caress do you look at orks and say "You know what this needs? Nazis." I, uh...I have some bad news about early Ork art direction and the inspiration for Ghazgkhull Thraka. Fortunately, it was a wry British way to laugh at the scummers that nobody liked, as Beer God said. CHUD bad-faith  "durr what's the problem?" is their only gameplan after posting stupid poo poo. Actually, they follow this multi-step plan without fail:1. Post dumb demeaning artless garbage that oozes cringe-inducing approval for fascism in general or Naziism specifically, or misogynistic trash, or something otherwise unacceptable to thinking/empathetic people. 2. Get called out on how awful it is. 3. Ask with feigned innocence, "What's wrong with it?"  4. Somebody explains it and/or calls them out again for being a shiteater. 5.a. Accuse the explainer of the prejudices in the mini/art, OR 5.b. Keep pretending it's not a problem, and 6. Follow the red herring all the fuckin way to the cannery accusing the regular person without a kawaii Heinrich Himmler wallscroll of being an SJW. 7. Shitposting into eternity to own the libs.
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Schadenboner posted:Im the XBOCKS-HUEG d20 Those are from DUST tactics. They still show up on clearance sometimes, and make a nice commitment to the Pegasus gothic buildings.
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I beat Space Marine yesterday, it was fun and now I'm always saying "Spayce Muhreen!" in my head when I pick up one of my models The health recovery system was dumb and rokkit Boyz were a pain in the rear end but otherwise it was worth $7.50
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moths posted:Those are from DUST tactics. They still show up on clearance sometimes, and make a nice commitment to the Pegasus gothic buildings. Was tactics the 1/35 one or the 1/48 one? IIRC they released two games in the same IP with extremely similar names and scales so I'm perma-  w/r/t that.
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:The best part about Ork fluff is that they have literal Stormboyz who represent Orks who haven't loving grown up yet. Ork lore says that when a boy gets old enough he starts to have weird feelings of discipline and starts seeking out like-minded individuals. These boyz form Stormboy mobs, wear uniforms, march in formation, bark orders, and are wildly regarded as the funniest loving thing by everyone else. Eventually the boy grows up and joins the rest of the band in laughing at the marching gits with the black uniforms and rokkits strapped to their backs. And those Orks are definitely not a piss-take of edgy teenagers signing up to NF/Combat 18.
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:The best part about Ork fluff is that they have literal Stormboyz who represent Orks who haven't loving grown up yet. Ork lore says that when a boy gets old enough he starts to have weird feelings of discipline and starts seeking out like-minded individuals. These boyz form Stormboy mobs, wear uniforms, march in formation, bark orders, and are wildly regarded as the funniest loving thing by everyone else. Eventually the boy grows up and joins the rest of the band in laughing at the marching gits with the black uniforms and rokkits strapped to their backs. I always liked that the Ork version of teenage rebellion was wanting order and structure.
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TheBigAristotle posted:I beat Space Marine yesterday, it was fun and now I'm always saying "Spayce Muhreen!" in my head when I pick up one of my models Encouraging you to get into combat and turning Orks and Daemons into a red poultice with your big-gently caress-huge hammer is bad?
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Thundercloud posted:https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/758032.page So it's been years since I read Dakka. Content aside the whole loving website is impossible to read with the lovely color choices and everyone having some stupid signature advertising how many points their armies are, declaring how many posters they've ignored, or worse yet including a signature that looks identical to the actual thread. I'm sure the content is equally horrible but why the gently caress would anyone subject themselves to that formatting.
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:So it's been years since I read Dakka. Content aside the whole loving website is impossible to read with the lovely color choices and everyone having some stupid signature advertising how many points their armies are, declaring how many posters they've ignored, or worse yet including a signature that looks identical to the actual thread. I'm sure the content is equally horrible but why the gently caress would anyone subject themselves to that formatting. It's a shame because their "Random Human Infantry" kit looks really nice (albeit overpriced), too. It would be perfect for a Penal Twists catachan army I had in mind. Schadenboner fucked around with this message at 15:43 on Jun 7, 2018 |
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Irate Tree posted:Encouraging you to get into combat and turning Orks and Daemons into a red poultice with your big-gently caress-huge hammer is bad? Turns out setting up a system where health recovery only comes from long, uninterruptible animations during which you can still take damage is actually not great.
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:So it's been years since I read Dakka. Content aside the whole loving website is impossible to read with the lovely color choices and everyone having some stupid signature advertising how many points their armies are, declaring how many posters they've ignored, or worse yet including a signature that looks identical to the actual thread. I'm sure the content is equally horrible but why the gently caress would anyone subject themselves to that formatting. I found the Drukhari specific thread to be mostly good faith arguments with proper punctuation and solid mathhammer. I never looked at another thread and going by that Anita link, that was the best choice. At first I was excited when I saw a dude post about how much of a turd the OP was, but then more and more turds arrived. RIP.
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TheBigAristotle posted:"And yeah, changing the design and lore of the Sisters to appease a dogmatic cult with a repressed sense of morality most people don't share seems like a bad thing. It doesn't to you?" Wait, what's their actual complaint? It's perfectly possible to do a Poochy and make a focus grouped change that isn't good, but I'm not really aware of any big changes with Sisters that were bad.
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There is a huge difference between alluding to the totalitarian regimes of the past (i.e. the aesthetic of the Empire in Star Wars) and putting loving swastikas and SS iconography on your Rhinos. You can pull off the "Hey these guys are obviously bad guys." or "I wanted to paint an Army that has the colors of WWII Germany, but is obviously not Nazis." ... just don't use the loving iconography! I like German Grey+Bright Red. It's a great color combination. I also love the colors of the Afrika Korps. Why don't these guys understand it's ok to paint your army in these colors, but unless you are actually painting WWII minis, skip the direct copies of the symbolism?   Sorry, I had to vent the steam. These fuckers piss me off.
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NovemberMike posted:Wait, what's their actual complaint? It's perfectly possible to do a Poochy and make a focus grouped change that isn't good, but I'm not really aware of any big changes with Sisters that were bad. I just liked this post because it was so 
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tbh I don't even have a huge problem with the balkenkreuz on stuff but please don't put totenkopfs or SS lightning bolts on anything thanks
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dexefiend posted:There is a huge difference between alluding to the totalitarian regimes of the past (i.e. the aesthetic of the Empire in Star Wars) and putting loving swastikas and SS iconography on your Rhinos. Even historical gamers (the ones that aren’t awful people) tend to avoid swastikas on their armies. The guys I’ve seen at shops favor the Iron Cross. Anyone using the actual swastika or SS skulls and poo poo are the ones you know to actively avoid.
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If something terrible happens and I somehow end up playing WW2 games, I'm definitely breaking out my giant backlog of Ultramarine transfers.
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Shadin posted:Even historical gamers (the ones that aren’t awful people) tend to avoid swastikas on their armies. The guys I’ve seen at shops favor the Iron Cross. Anyone using the actual swastika or SS skulls and poo poo are the ones you know to actively avoid. Yeah the balkenkreuz is perfectly acceptable in a historical wargame If you did some 40k stuff with a balkenkruez I would look at it weird but it wouldn't be a huge deal, if you did SS symbols in a historical game or otherwise you can gently caress off The only place that's acceptable is in like a diorama or something where the SS is getting stomped on
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Why do you think the balkenkreuz is fine but SS and swastikas are not? They're all poo poo.
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JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:Why do you think the balkenkreuz is fine but SS and swastikas are not? I mean its typically on the list of things germany themselves replace nazi iconography with when they censor it?
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I didn't say it's fine, I said it's not a huge deal. It's kind of riding the line and would make me wary but not outright refuse to play them like with SS symbols.
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JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:Why do you think the balkenkreuz is fine but SS and swastikas are not?
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JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:Why do you think the balkenkreuz is fine but SS and swastikas are not? AFAIK, it's because the Iron Cross predates the Nazis in the Prussian Empire and also has a much reduced gut punch reaction. One of those subtle social considerations that horrible nerds are completely immune to and try to argue around with butwhatabouts and wellbutthisisactuallythesames. Basically historical guys that need to indicate their army is German but don't want to really dive into the whole ultra-Nazi part of it and just wanna play out WW2 battles.
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JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:Why do you think the balkenkreuz is fine but SS and swastikas are not?
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chutche2 posted:Yeah the balkenkreuz is perfectly acceptable in a historical wargame Sure chutche2 posted:If you did some 40k stuff with a balkenkruez I would look at it weird but it wouldn't be a huge deal, Nah, I'm going to disagree with that. Anyone who puts period German iconography on their 40k models has exactly one intention
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I saw a guy recently with an imperial guard army that had tanks done up in an Afrika Korps scheme with some balkankruezes on the tanks and was weirded out by it but he didn't do any other kind of pro-nazi signaling so it wasn't a dealbreaker.
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Giant Isopod posted:Sure I'd say that the Nazi-limit is the Star Wars Empire (and that's a pretty goddamn permissive standard, imo), beyond that it starts getting a little  .Dark grey tanks are still probably ok, although combining them with red/white/black color scheme or hooky iconography is Considered Harmful.
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