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C, a strong Egypt is honestly great ally material.
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SlothfulCobra posted:France's out of nowhere opposition to Andalusian interests really foreshadows how that future alliance is going to go. It wasn’t really Andalusian interests though. We were mostly in the previous vote for the brownie points. I think it’s a little premature to count this as a betrayal by Frangland.
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Captain Oblivious posted:It wasn’t really Andalusian interests though. We were mostly in the previous vote for the brownie points. I think it’s a little premature to count this as a betrayal by Frangland. Not to mention they had no loving idea how we were going to vote (as we had no idea how they were going to vote!).
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Jun 8, 2018 00:12
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Jun 8, 2018 00:17
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D Peace in the Levant!
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D This is only relevant to "gently caress Morocco" in the most indirect sense. I don't want to strengthen a Moroccan ally or the Egyptian infidels *spits*. Give each region self-rule.
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C gently caress Morocco, etc D is a trap, that's the exact same solution Morocco is going to propose for our disputed territories.
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Jun 8, 2018 00:21
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C, screw Morocco
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Jun 8, 2018 00:38
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C gently caress Morocco.
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C: I think we should sit this one out but buddying Egypt AND screwing Morocco is just too delicious to pass up
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Yeesh, guys, we may as well become Christian at this rate! B.
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Don't forget those Armenian bastards claimed the Caliphate and expected Al-Andalus to bow to them. The Crusaders are Crusaders. A plague on both their houses, and gently caress Morocco into the bargain.
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C gently caress Morocco
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Jun 8, 2018 01:29
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I'm curious how the AI chooses to vote on these issues when it does not directly affect them. Is it solely based on their relations with the countries that it does affect with some sprinkling of the RNG's magic? To what extent will they take into account how you previously voted on their issues beyond your relations with their country?
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Jun 8, 2018 01:36
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D but Syria should be ruled by Christians and Palestine by Muslims
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Snipee posted:I'm curious how the AI chooses to vote on these issues when it does not directly affect them. Is it solely based on their relations with the countries that it does affect with some sprinkling of the RNG's magic? To what extent will they take into account how you previously voted on their issues beyond your relations with their country? Yep, it basically comes down to relations and some RNG. There's a base AI chance that an option will be picked depending on the vote at hand, and that chance is further modified by relations, which are affected by previous votes. So in this current vote, for example, Hannover doesn't have much personal clout in the Levant, so their base AI chance is set equally between Options A, B, C and D (25-25-25-25). That said, they have bad relations with Russia and Egypt (both voted against their favoured proposal in vote 2), so their likelihood of picking Option C is significantly smaller. Same goes for all the other options.
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Hashim posted:Yep, it basically comes down to relations and some RNG. There's a base AI chance that an option will be picked depending on the vote at hand, and that chance is further modified by relations, which are affected by previous votes. So in this current vote, for example, Hannover doesn't have much personal clout in the Levant, so their base AI chance is set equally between Options A, B, C and D (25-25-25-25). That said, they have bad relations with Russia and Egypt (both voted against their favoured proposal in vote 2), so their likelihood of picking Option C is significantly smaller. Same goes for all the other options. Mmmmmm. The fact that France wouldn't have any intrinsic gratitude for our vote in favor of their interests could hurt us. Assuming that there are only two options for the vote on Iberia, I imagine that the outcome would look like this: Morocco's guaranteed vote against us will hopefully be balanced by Russia's vote. Hanover's likely vote against us will be hopefully be balanced by Hungary and Bavaria's vote. Armenia's likely vote against us will be hopefully be balanced by Egypt's vote. Even with the relations boost, I'm not sure that France wants to create a strong southern neighbor (especially a Muslim one with a history of conflict against Catholics). If they vote against us, then Hanover and Morocco will once again break the tie. Of course, if there are other options for everyone to split their votes on, then I have no idea what might happen.
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Jun 8, 2018 02:35
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C, gently caress Morocco.
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Voting C
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C Almoravids, Vakhtani, loving, etc.
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I can imagine our delegates ending every speech with "and furthermore, Morocco can suck it."
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Danny Glands posted:I can imagine our delegates ending every speech with "and furthermore, Morocco can suck it." "yjb tadmir maraksh!!" is the new "Carthago Delenda Est!"
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Snipee posted:Even with the relations boost, I'm not sure that France wants to create a strong southern neighbor (especially a Muslim one with a history of conflict against Catholics). If they vote against us, then Hanover and Morocco will once again break the tie. Alernatively, they've seen what happens when a free Catalonia doesn't have the rest of Andalusia to drag it down.
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I didn't spend the entire Tirruni Wars fighting Moroccans just to play into their hands. C
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Flavius Belisarius posted:D "Infidels?" This is the 19th century friend, what are you on about? Also C gently caress Morocco
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gently caress Morocco, be amiable to Russia C
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All aboard the gently caress Morocco train! Next stop: C
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Rodyle posted:"Infidels?" This is the 19th century friend, what are you on about? 
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Rodyle posted:"Infidels?" This is the 19th century friend, what are you on about? Guards! We have a Tirrunist Atheist here!
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C Lol gently caress Morocco
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mossyfisk posted:C gently caress Morocco, etc This, exactly. Plus, we don't have a real good option for maintaining good relations with Armenia and Egypt both, they're at +40 each right now and other than abstention we can't make it more likely that they'll back us when the Andalusian question arises at the end of the conference. Since abstaining isn't going to happen, we have to go with the choice that makes it most likely we can get a vote from at least one of the two. D is better policy, C is better politics. And politics matter more if we want to restore Catalunya to its rightful place in the fold. Also, gently caress Morocco. C. As an aside, I hope we get a chance to make Hannover happy somehow before the vote on Tirruni's Iberian holdings, we could really get bitten in the rear end since adding just one to Hannover, Morocco, and Armenia would lose us the vote on a tiebreaker. IIRC, these are our current relations with our fellow Congressional members- Russia: +150 (probably up to +200 with option C) Frangleterre: +140 Bavaria: +140 Hungary: +140 Egypt: +40 (+140 if we side with them, probably, -10 to -60 if we create buffer states) Armenia: +40 (same as Egypt) Hannover: -60 Morocco: -200 eta: So, that'd be 7 likely votes for us, one vote probably against us, one vote likely against us, and Morocco definitely against us when it comes to the Adalusian Question, habeasdorkus fucked around with this message at 14:14 on Jun 8, 2018 |
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I'd like to put forth a motion to make Frangleterre the official name of France-England, by the way.
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Crazycryodude posted:I'd like to put forth a motion to make Frangleterre the official name of France-England, by the way. I've genuinely been trying to think up a good name for France-England once they get English as an accepted culture in vicky, and haven't gotten much further than 'Dual Monarchy' or something to do with unions. So who knows?
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Hashim posted:I've genuinely been trying to think up a good name for France-England once they get English as an accepted culture in vicky, and haven't gotten much further than 'Dual Monarchy' or something to do with unions. So who knows? Who’s their ruling dynasty? You could name it after them.
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Lord Cyrahzax posted:Who’s their ruling dynasty? You could name it after them. The 'Roman' dynasty, who also rule over Scandinavia-Novgorod.
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Crazycryodude posted:I'd like to put forth a motion to make Frangleterre the official name of France-England, by the way. Seconded.
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Hashim posted:The 'Roman' dynasty, who also rule over Scandinavia-Novgorod. Goldarnit, the Romans conquered Gaul again!
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