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Fatkraken
Jun 23, 2005

Fun-time is over.
I mean, he was definitely taking the piss and it's worth severing over if he's only a casual friend, but if you don't want someone to min-max your rules, something a little better than "eat whatever you want and treat the place like your own!" is wise when you keep $300 of food in the freezer.

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PetraCore
Jul 20, 2017

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InediblePenguin posted:

yes

pedos show cartoon kiddy porn to real kids to plant sexual ideas in their heads and give them child-accessible cartoon demonstrations that kids having sex with adults is fun and good. i'm not googling it for you while i'm on my workplace wifi
Yeah I don't always love that argument because I was groomed by something entirely nonsexual because if an adult really wants to lie to and trick a kid they don't really need handy dandy visual comics reference, because kids are dumb as poo poo a lot of the time. It's definitely a risk and it's disgusting that that happens, but I think the people who use that to groom kids would be abusing kids anyway, because, again, it happened to me.

Honestly the real solution is to make therapy a lot more accessible for pedophiles and not try to go 'well I guess we have to allow them access to cartoons as a form of therapy' because that's pretty ridiculous.

TehRedWheelbarrow
Mar 16, 2011



Fan of Britches
despite the perils of firing a a broadside into a thread when way behind half cocked any child exploitation apologists even fictional can go gently caress themselves

Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Dec 22, 2005

GET LOSE, YOU CAN'T COMPARE WITH MY POWERS
It seems there's nothing wrong with cartoon child porn as long as we can systematically eliminate all of the children first. Get to it folks. [GOON PROJECT]

PHIZ KALIFA
Dec 21, 2011

#mood

sneakyfrog posted:

despite the perils of firing a a broadside into a thread when way behind half cocked any child exploitation apologists even fictional can go gently caress themselves

agreed 10000000000% and i still don't think thats entirely what Petra was trying, but it's really easy to assume that anything short of this ^^^ exact sentiment is in fact child-ex-apologia.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:

It seems there's nothing wrong with cartoon child porn as long as we can systematically eliminate all of the children first. Get to it folks. [GOON PROJECT]

I thought not reproducing was the project?

PetraCore
Jul 20, 2017

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Ugh I made myself way more vulnerable than I told myself I was going to get on these dumb gay forums but if I delete that post I'll feel worse, so I guess I'll post content.

My [22F] boyfriend(?) [26M] wants to postpone our breakup for another 3 months

quote:

My boyfriend and I have been in a LDR for a year now. We only see each other on holidays or when he's off from college. The distance itself isn't a problem, but throughout our relationship we have discovered many deal breakers and incompatibilities that have left me in tears. Sometimes he'll reassure me that there is no such thing as a perfect match and that we were the best each other could do. A few instances he has given me the option to end things with him, which I always felt was unfair because he was putting all the responsibility on me.

We are each other's first relationship, so we were able to ignore our problems in the beginning because we don't really have anything else to compare to and learn from. Just recently though, a controversial topic came up in our discussion and it finally solidified just how incompatible we are. My BF finally agreed that we "had an expiration date" and that we should break up. Although I felt the same way, I was still pretty upset about parting ways. He proposed that we postpone our break up for another 3 months, which is the next time we see each other. That way we can get some closure and he could "enjoy [my] body for the last time".

I was okay with it at first, but then during one of our routine phone calls he started talking about future girls he was going to date. I lost it and started bawling. It hurt to hear him talking about future relationships so easily, so we attempted to DTR.

He considered our arrangement to be a FWB situation, but he still wanted to call me his girlfriend because he still loved me. I asked him what would happen if we found someone else and all he could say was that it would be impossible for us to find someone in a short amount of time. To me this excuse just feels like he's trying to avoid the question.

Again, he gave me the option to end the relationship, but not without telling me he loved me. I am confused if there is even a relationship to end. Is there such a thing as FWBs that call each other bf/gf and exchange "I love you"'s? I want to start seeing other people, but I don't want to cheat on anyone. We are still talking to each other and have have been intimate (at least, as best as we could in a LDR).

Tl;Dr My BF said we are going to break up in 3 months. I am confused as to whether or not he is still my BF.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

PetraCore posted:

Ugh I made myself way more vulnerable than I told myself I was going to get on these dumb gay forums but if I delete that post I'll feel worse, so I guess I'll post content.

My [22F] boyfriend(?) [26M] wants to postpone our breakup for another 3 months

If you take out a boyfriend loan, you gotta pay it back on the terms areed even if the piece of poo poo falls apart on you

TehRedWheelbarrow
Mar 16, 2011



Fan of Britches
yeah that wasnt pointed at you petra more a just a general koolaid man oh yeah when breaking into a thread you are 11k posts behind on

PetraCore
Jul 20, 2017

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PHIZ KALIFA posted:

agreed 10000000000% and i still don't think thats entirely what Petra was trying, but it's really easy to assume that anything short of this ^^^ exact sentiment is in fact child-ex-apologia.
I don't like it when children are hurt and exploited and even though I think behavior is what matters and not hardwired, terribly dysfunctional urges are what matters I don't want anyone wired that way to ever be left with power over kids. Sorry if I sounded like I was making excuses for anyone. Especially in the context of the post that sparked that, anyone who feels it's 'not a big deal' and 'shouldn't be shamed or whatever' is not in a safe position.

sneakyfrog posted:

yeah that wasnt pointed at you petra more a just a general koolaid man oh yeah when breaking into a thread you are 11k posts behind on
Yeah it's definitely a minefield of a topic.

CheesyDog
Jul 4, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
Don't get lost in the details: you should get therapy if you're importing any kind of porn for your friend

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

PetraCore posted:

Ugh I made myself way more vulnerable than I told myself I was going to get on these dumb gay forums but if I delete that post I'll feel worse, so I guess I'll post content.

My [22F] boyfriend(?) [26M] wants to postpone our breakup for another 3 months

I don’t get how you’re supposed to have a proper relationship with a set in stone expiration date like that.

Bobby Digital
Sep 4, 2009

CheesyDog posted:

Don't get lost in the details: you should get therapy if you're importing any kind of porn for your friend

Look, it’s hard to find a US site that carries the later entries in the Tuvan Deepthroat Singing series.

Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Dec 22, 2005

GET LOSE, YOU CAN'T COMPARE WITH MY POWERS

sneakyfrog posted:

despite the perils of firing a a broadside into a thread when way behind half cocked any child exploitation apologists even fictional can go gently caress themselves
My real feelings are that everyone should have this emotional response, but how a society handles pedophiles should be decided in a way that minimizes the amount of children hurt empirically. That emotional response is good up until the point where some other response would work better at curbing the abuse of children.

TehRedWheelbarrow
Mar 16, 2011



Fan of Britches
it was my kneejerk response, my apologies big jeff

PetraCore
Jul 20, 2017

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Ugly In The Morning posted:

I don’t get how you’re supposed to have a proper relationship with a set in stone expiration date like that.
Sounds like he just to have sex with her tbh. Esp the 'you can never find anyone better than me and couldn't find anyone else in 3 months' poo poo.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos
What if, and I'm spitballing here, she breaks up with him? Now?

LadyPictureShow
Nov 18, 2005

Success!



But he said he loves her!

I feel like ‘first relationship at 25’ is a red flag in and of itself. Well, that and ‘let’s delay it, because I want to bang you one last time!’

TehRedWheelbarrow
Mar 16, 2011



Fan of Britches
gently caress everyone till you are 30

with safety

big dyke energy
Jul 29, 2006

Football? Yaaaay
On what grounds?? This will never hold up in relationship court.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:

My real feelings are that everyone should have this emotional response, but how a society handles pedophiles should be decided in a way that minimizes the amount of children hurt empirically. That emotional response is good up until the point where some other response would work better at curbing the abuse of children.

Right, but I think the issue is that nobody knows how to do that. Remember, that in the past, it was advised to people, for example, to take out their anger by punching a pillow. They stopped recommending that what it turns out that this caused people to default to violent reactions in frustrating situations. People thought that it would allow them to “vent “, but it didn’t, it had the opposite effect of conditioning people to violent reactions. No one meant any harm, and people who receive the treatment didn’t want to be more violent, necessarily, but it still wasn’t the right way to go. Nobody is sure whether allowing pedophiles to “vent” by indulging their fantasies is good or not. And saying that one way or the other is “more logical “misses the fact that you can’t really logic your way into knowing which of these approaches is more correct.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
I mean this entire thread should prove that most people don’t really Operate by logic as it is commonly understood in western cultures

PHIZ KALIFA
Dec 21, 2011

#mood

PetraCore posted:

I don't like it when children are hurt and exploited and even though I think behavior is what matters and not hardwired, terribly dysfunctional urges are what matters I don't want anyone wired that way to ever be left with power over kids. Sorry if I sounded like I was making excuses for anyone. Especially in the context of the post that sparked that, anyone who feels it's 'not a big deal' and 'shouldn't be shamed or whatever' is not in a safe position.

you definitely didn't and i definitely didn't mean to imply that you were.

everyone posting on this derail seems 100% above board so far, very good work everyone.


here's my hot take: sew up teenagers in burlap sacks so no one can harm them.

Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Dec 22, 2005

GET LOSE, YOU CAN'T COMPARE WITH MY POWERS

Pick posted:

Right, but I think the issue is that nobody knows how to do that. Remember, that in the past, it was advised to people, for example, to take out their anger by punching a pillow. They stopped recommending that what it turns out that this caused people to default to violent reactions in frustrating situations. People thought that it would allow them to “vent “, but it didn’t, it had the opposite effect of conditioning people to violent reactions. No one meant any harm, and people who receive the treatment didn’t want to be more violent, necessarily, but it still wasn’t the right way to go. Nobody is sure whether allowing pedophiles to “vent” by indulging their fantasies is good or not. And saying that one way or the other is “more logical “misses the fact that you can’t really logic your way into knowing which of these approaches is more correct.
Yeah it's a hundred times easier to describe properties the best solution would have than it is to actually find it. I did one but not the other on purpose. As a forums moderator I think I'm uniquely unqualified in identifying effective solutions here.

TehRedWheelbarrow
Mar 16, 2011



Fan of Britches
in gbs no less

take that pyf

*throws up the wu*

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
Lol

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness

PetraCore posted:

Honestly the real solution is to make therapy a lot more accessible for pedophiles and not try to go 'well I guess we have to allow them access to cartoons as a form of therapy' because that's pretty ridiculous.
yes and also make them actually go

whether that's strengthening the existing laws to get people committed or destigmatizing other mental health concerns and just hoping that they happen to attend therapy for "other" reasons (I'm talking about the ones that don't see anything wrong with it here)

now I will shut up again because this thread deserves to be slightly less gross :shobon:

PetraCore
Jul 20, 2017

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PHIZ KALIFA posted:

here's my hot take: sew up teenagers in burlap sacks so no one can harm them.
Put teenagers in those rubber two-layered bubbles and roll them down a hill.

PHIZ KALIFA
Dec 21, 2011

#mood
make teenagers work out in an extremely high-gravity spaceship for 18 years while they fly towards Namek.

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

Pick posted:

I mean this entire thread should prove that most people don’t really Operate by logic as it is commonly understood in western cultures

Or Eastern, Southern, or Northern. People in all cultures suck at understanding human behavior.

HIJK
Nov 25, 2012
in the room where you sleep

PetraCore posted:

Ugh I made myself way more vulnerable than I told myself I was going to get on these dumb gay forums but if I delete that post I'll feel worse, so I guess I'll post content.

My [22F] boyfriend(?) [26M] wants to postpone our breakup for another 3 months

kick him to the curb

ArbitraryC
Jan 28, 2009
Pick a number, any number
Pillbug

Fatkraken posted:

I mean, he was definitely taking the piss and it's worth severing over if he's only a casual friend, but if you don't want someone to min-max your rules, something a little better than "eat whatever you want and treat the place like your own!" is wise when you keep $300 of food in the freezer.

I doubt he actually ate the food, he probably just took it home. And no sane person would actually think "feel free to hang out and rummage around the fridge" would include defrosting steaks and corking expensive wine so dude probably woulda just swiped the poo poo regardless of the suggestion.

La Brea Carpet
Nov 22, 2007

I have no mouth and I must post
My [26F] brand new colleague who is training me [35M] went on a drunken tirade last night about how I played him via text

quote:

I'll keep it short and sweet. I started a new job one month ago. I have a bubbly personality and I'm friendly with everyone in the office. This is a big reason I was hired and a big part of my job is liaising between teams to manage projects, so being cool with everyone is a must if you want to meet tight deadlines.

Anyway, I had total freedom to choose how I wanted to be trained and I have a colleague, Mike, who I felt was best suited for training me. He's really good at his job, patient and thorough at explaining things, which is why I chose him to train me. We spent almost entire days together for weeks to get me up to speed and we got to know each other a little bit.

I knew he developed a little bit of a crush on me but I don't mix work and my love life and he really isn't my type. But like I said, I'm friendly with everyone and I treat all my colleagues equally. Which means when I'm getting up to grab a seltzer, snack or coffee, I'll offer to grab one for whomever is sitting nearest to me. If I'm craving a chocolate from the vending machine, I'll ask whoever is near me if they want to take a trip to the lobby. This also includes my middle-aged, female supervisor and my boss, who's in his 50's and married with kids, too.

Anyway, I've only chatted with Mike once outside of work and it was work related. We've never even hung out outside of work, never gone on a date or for drinks or anything that would make him think we were anything more than colleagues. So imagine my surprise when he drunkenly texted me out of the blue last night, the day we celebrated my one month at the company and another colleague's birthday, Vince, who I did make baked goods for because we're friends and his team is a huge part of my team's success (not that I need to justify baking for anyone)

In his string of drunk texts, even after demanding he stops texting me twice, he 1) accused me of "playing" him 2) told me to go gently caress myself 3) sent a picture of some girl who looks like me and said "my wife eventually" 4) said "gently caress you and Vinnyboy"

I honestly really don't want to go to my bosses or HR yet because he's really good at his job and they'd probably side with him before siding with me, since I'm so new. But truthfully, it freaks me out how angry he was at me over him thinking we had something, when we were literally only colleagues and nothing more. I don't think anyone has told me to go gently caress myself before ?

I can keep him blocked on my phone and my training with him has phased out so I don't even really need to talk with him during the day.

But how do I address this?

TL;DR new colleague thought we had a thing and got drunk and told me to go gently caress myself multiple times via text.

Admiral Ray
May 17, 2014

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La Brea Carpet posted:

My [26F] brand new colleague who is training me [35M] went on a drunken tirade last night about how I played him via text

quote:

I honestly really don't want to go to my bosses or HR yet because he's really good at his job and they'd probably side with him before siding with me, since I'm so new. But truthfully, it freaks me out how angry he was at me over him thinking we had something, when we were literally only colleagues and nothing more. I don't think anyone has told me to go gently caress myself before ?

Take the texts to your bosses and savor being able to report a trainwreck.

ArbitraryC
Jan 28, 2009
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Pillbug
Lol at this dude, a lady was nice to him so it must be because she was flirting.

Curious what her actual job is though.

Taima
Dec 31, 2006

tfw you're peeing next to someone in the lineup and they don't know
You just know it was a slippery slope situation too. He definitely took like... a piece of salmon, then the next day talked himself into a couple steaks... before you know it the whole loving freezer and the wine cabinet is gone.

Not to lessen that guy's actions- he's a sociopath for sure.

But that being said, anyone who has been in college- PHD or no- can think of several reasons why letting some naive, perpetually poor career student into your house and saying "eat whatever" could turn out terribly. For numerous reasons.

ArbitraryC
Jan 28, 2009
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Pillbug

Taima posted:

You just know it was a slippery slope situation too. He definitely took like... a piece of salmon, then the next day talked himself into a couple steaks... before you know it the whole loving freezer and the wine cabinet is gone.

Not to lessen that guy's actions- he's a sociopath for sure.

But that being said, anyone who has been in college- PHD or no- can think of several reasons why letting some naive, perpetually poor career student into your house and saying "eat whatever" could turn out terribly. For numerous reasons.

Not really? I've taken care of animals and such for friends all the time and literally everyone says "make yourself at home and feel free to have some food", that translates to like fruit that's hanging around or a can of coke, not dethawing a leg of lamb and roasting it.

ArbitraryC
Jan 28, 2009
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Pillbug

Admiral Ray posted:

Take the texts to your bosses and savor being able to report a trainwreck.

reddit seems to be successfully convincing her to go to HR with it so hopefully we get a juicy update.

Taima
Dec 31, 2006

tfw you're peeing next to someone in the lineup and they don't know

ArbitraryC posted:

Not really? I've taken care of animals and such for friends all the time and literally everyone says "make yourself at home and feel free to have some food", that translates to like fruit that's hanging around or a can of coke, not dethawing a leg of lamb and roasting it.

Grad students are a special brand of naive, entitled and often desperate (financially, emotionally, or otherwise).

We are talking about people that, on the whole, are the emotional equivalent of children. Many have literally never had a job or really anything that would build emotional intelligence.

Pro tip: don't give grad students carte blanche on your expensive rear end food. I feel like anyone who has been around grad students would inherently understand this. Again, it doesn't make that dude's actions right, but there's a lesson to be learned here.

You're also misrepresenting the situation, for the record. The OP didn't say "feel free to have some food". He said "treat this place as your own and cook here, with my food". He says as much in the post. If you are told to cook, specifically, then you might actually dethaw the lamb because cooking often involves a centerpiece protein.

Again, NOT trying to minimize the actions of this colossal retard who ate all of the food. Just explaining why he should have been a LOT more wary, especially as a fellow grad student.

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ArbitraryC
Jan 28, 2009
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Taima posted:

Grad students are a special brand of naive, entitled and often desperate (financially, emotionally, or otherwise).

We are talking about people that, on the whole, are the emotional equivalent of children. Many have literally never had a job or really anything that would build emotional intelligence.

Pro tip: don't give grad students carte blanche on your expensive rear end food. I feel like anyone who has been around grad students would inherently understand this. Again, it doesn't make that dude's actions right, but there's a lesson to be learned here.

You're also misrepresenting the situation, for the record. The OP didn't say "feel free to have some food". He said "treat this place as your own and cook here, with my food". He says as much in the post. If you are told to cook, specifically, then you might actually dethaw the lamb because cooking often involves a centerpiece protein.

Again, NOT trying to minimize the actions of this colossal retard who ate all of the food. Just explaining why he should have been a LOT more wary, especially as a fellow grad student.
I've been in grad school man, yeah we love our free food but no one would steal from their friends for it, we'd just crash literally any campus event where refreshments were provided. That's above and beyond behavior, dude's just an rear end in a top hat.

iirc we had a similar story a while back with some winos that had a friend housesit and offered to let them have some and when they got back the person had like plowed through their whole rack or cellar or whatever. Some people just do that kind of thing.

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