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The richest quintile in America owns 85% of the wealth. The bottom two quintiles own about 0.3% of the wealth, total. The richest 20% have 85% of the wealth. The top 5% have a majority of the wealth. The bottom 40% have to make do with less than 1% of America's wealth. That's freedom, fairness, and equality, right there.
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But just imagine how much the rest of the world could do with that 0.3% though, and yet here you are talking about taking away most/some of that 85% instead. For shame.
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Jun 9, 2018 04:50
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I'm also pretty sure murder dude was speaking literally. Even if not, is joking about murder cool now, or is it just because he was talking about murdering the Other from a liberal perspective?
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Jun 9, 2018 11:44
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QuarkJets posted:You think that "eat the rich" means literally eat them lol You obviously aren't paying attention if you think this. There are plenty of people who are unironically calling for the return of the guillotine. If there is a serious social upheaval against the top 1% in America, they will simply jet over to either Switzerland or the Caribbean, whichever they prefer. The thirst for vengeance will be unsated, and so this animosity will then be turned against the remainder, who were "reactionary centrists."
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Jun 9, 2018 15:40
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baquerd posted:I'm also pretty sure murder dude was speaking literally. Even if not, is joking about murder cool now, or is it just because he was talking about murdering the Other from a liberal perspective? I'm getting quite tired of the rightwing rainbow being unimaginative about the scale of my evil, I don't want them to die, I want them in mind prisons until they're so broken they're no longer a threat to society.
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Jun 9, 2018 15:49
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RuanGacho posted:I'm getting quite tired of the rightwing rainbow being unimaginative about the scale of my evil, I don't want them to die, I want them in mind prisons until they're so broken they're no longer a threat to society. Come Revolution Time step one isn't guillotines, it's defaulting the US sovereign debt to annihilate the whole capitalist system.
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Jun 9, 2018 16:06
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CountFosco posted:You obviously aren't paying attention if you think this. There are plenty of people who are unironically calling for the return of the guillotine. If there is a serious social upheaval against the top 1% in America, they will simply jet over to either Switzerland or the Caribbean, whichever they prefer. The thirst for vengeance will be unsated, and so this animosity will then be turned against the remainder, who were "reactionary centrists." That's why the revolution needs to be international, comrade. Also they can't take the means of production with them when they go, which is part of the point. Such an event would also likely collapse the dollar as a currency or at the least, put the means of controlling it in the hands of people unfriendly to the 1%, and thus the majority of their wealth is hosed anyway. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 17:00 on Jun 9, 2018 |
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Jun 9, 2018 16:57
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Weird how "plenty of people ... unironically calling for the return of the guillotine" yet pretty much every ideologically-motivated act of murder in the US is done by right-wing authoritarians.
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Jun 9, 2018 17:32
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Wait hold up, were people saying Trash Trick was a cop just because of his avatar?
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Jun 9, 2018 19:38
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GunnerJ posted:Wait hold up, were people saying Trash Trick was a cop just because of his avatar? His username used to be "a cop" and he frequently defended police in the "cops are bad" threads.
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Jun 9, 2018 19:43
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Remember when RealTalk was defending Peterson, saying he wasn't being a misogynist? Well guess who is using Peterson's videos as proof that gender segregation is good? The Saudis. https://twitter.com/iyad_elbaghdadi/status/1005302713985400833
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Jun 9, 2018 20:12
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WampaLord posted:frequently defended police in the "cops are bad" threads. That’s quite the narrative to derive from asking one person for further details when they said that public defenders were lovely institutional pawns once. I might have said that anarchy/the abolition of the justice system wasn’t a tenable solution to police abuse? If saying that bad cops should be jailed is defending them then ok.
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Jun 9, 2018 20:15
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CountFosco posted:You obviously aren't paying attention if you think this. There are plenty of people who are unironically calling for the return of the guillotine. If there is a serious social upheaval against the top 1% in America, they will simply jet over to either Switzerland or the Caribbean, whichever they prefer. The thirst for vengeance will be unsated, and so this animosity will then be turned against the remainder, who were "reactionary centrists." lol please seek the help of a medical professional, you have lost the ability to distinguish fantasy from reality
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Jun 9, 2018 20:19
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Trash Trick posted:That’s quite the narrative to derive from asking one person for further details when they said that public defenders were lovely institutional pawns once. I might have said that anarchy/the abolition of the justice system wasn’t a tenable solution to police abuse? If saying that bad cops should be jailed is defending them then ok. If it looks like a cop and it oinks like a cop and it stridently defends capitalism like a cop, then gently caress off cop
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Jun 9, 2018 21:12
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"I'm not a cop! I just have a really low IQ, defend police violence at every opportunity, and think it's okay to shoot unarmed black people."
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Jun 9, 2018 21:17
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CommieGIR posted:Remember when RealTalk was defending Peterson, saying he wasn't being a misogynist? One of the top replies linked to this account, which is just  https://twitter.com/JBPorCleric/status/965374754310909952
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Jun 9, 2018 23:12
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OwlFancier posted:I would advise against eating the rich literally because they are probably quite unhealthy for you. Maybe, but you know they taste amazing.
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Jun 9, 2018 23:24
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Zanzibar Ham posted:Weird how "plenty of people ... unironically calling for the return of the guillotine" yet pretty much every ideologically-motivated act of murder in the US is done by right-wing authoritarians. Sounds like a lack of conviction. Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
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Jun 10, 2018 00:22
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CountFosco posted:You obviously aren't paying attention if you think this. There are plenty of people who are unironically calling for the return of the guillotine. If there is a serious social upheaval against the top 1% in America, they will simply jet over to either Switzerland or the Caribbean, whichever they prefer. The thirst for vengeance will be unsated, and so this animosity will then be turned against the remainder, who were "reactionary centrists." Here's the thing, if it comes right down to it, do you think mercenaries can keep the rich people safe? Because if it comes to the point where people are getting the torches and pitchforks then money will probably no longer have as much utility as it does at present and it becomes a case of "how many divisions does the pope have" territory.
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Jun 10, 2018 00:36
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Oh no our idle dynastic-wealth overlords just took all their family jewels and fled to the Caribbean. What will we do with nothing left but this vast country and all its natural resources, farms, mines, factories, harbors, roads, railways, industrial centers, manpower, skilled labor, universities, research facilities, military bases, and all the people actually doing the work and making all the discoveries. We're doomed without our class of lazy parasites to support in unimaginable luxury! VitalSigns fucked around with this message at 01:08 on Jun 10, 2018 |
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Jun 10, 2018 00:59
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You know what? I have encountered some new and much-needed points today thanks to Trash's bravery. At next Thursday's council meeting to decide what to do with the thread's supply of robo-bees, I am going to change my vote on Proposition Kill Bill(ionaires) from an "aye" to a "nay."
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Jun 10, 2018 01:17
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How does the 1% fleeing the country in a scenario where their greed has caused another depression and the pitchforks are coming for them even work, logistically. Is there...room for their pilot's extended family on the LearJet? And once they reach the Caribbean, what exactly makes them think they'll still be able to lord it over the inhabitants without the military and economic might of the nearby superpower backing them up?
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Jun 10, 2018 01:45
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VitalSigns posted:How does the 1% fleeing the country in a scenario where their greed has caused another depression and the pitchforks are coming for them even work, logistically. Gold? Is the answer "gold"?? I bet the answer is "gold"!!! or for a select few,  Also aren't a bunch of billionaire preppers(/"preppers") are planning on fleeing to their private palatial New Zealand estates instead of the Caribbean? Probably less accessible from the US by Learjet though, since the currently-manufactured Learjets have a range of 2,348 miles
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Jun 10, 2018 06:51
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brb making a startup that refits learjets with drop tanks for ten million pounds a pop.
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Jun 10, 2018 18:19
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VitalSigns posted:Oh no our idle dynastic-wealth overlords just took all their family jewels and fled to the Caribbean. You laugh, but when the wealthy fled Russia after the Bolsheviks took control they were able to take quite a bit with them, and this set the industrialization of Russia (which was ongoing under the Czar) back quite a bit. Of course, we will never reach the point where the elites actually have to flee, because the modern communist/socialists are complete buffoons and have no idea how to actually instantiate a revolution. Where they should be infiltrating and subverting the American military from the inside, they are instead villifying and antagonizing the American military, resulting in a police and armed forces which is hostile to leftist social activism. The Russian army didn't revolt simply because the war was going poorly: the Bolsheviks actively infiltrated the Russian armed services and commandeered the Russian army to its own ends.
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Jun 10, 2018 18:26
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CountFosco posted:You laugh, but when the wealthy fled Russia after the Bolsheviks took control they were able to take quite a bit with them, and this set the industrialization of Russia (which was ongoing under the Czar) back quite a bit. Given that our society is already industrialized, I don't see this being a problem for America. If all the CEOs left, the people under them would move up one rung and business would continue as usual, they don't have any sort of secret genius CEO knowledge. All the infrastructure, the offices, the workers are still there.
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Jun 10, 2018 18:33
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Protip american cops and military are protofascists anyway and would be hostile to the left regardless.
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Jun 10, 2018 18:34
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OwlFancier posted:Protip american cops and military are protofascists anyway and would be hostile to the left regardless. That's why you infiltrate and propagandize them. Did you even read a word that I said? This right here is why the left will always lose, because they see where the power is and they refuse to have anything to do with it because they have a superstitious fear of power.
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Jun 10, 2018 19:05
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Yes you conquer militarism and police oppression by becoming the military and police that works wonders. Has it occured to you that perhaps the reason those organizations are full of fuckheads is because their entire function is to be fuckheads and you aren't going to change that or the disposition of their members by joining the army and saying "hey this whole thing where we kill people for money is a bit poo poo isn't it?"
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Jun 10, 2018 19:13
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Please continue to dream of some sort of nonviolent political transformation, because as long as your completely inhuman Marxist dreams remain that, dreams, the rest of us will continue on with the real struggles.
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CountFosco posted:You laugh, but when the wealthy fled Russia after the Bolsheviks took control they were able to take quite a bit with them, and this set the industrialization of Russia (which was ongoing under the Czar) back quite a bit. Of course, we will never reach the point where the elites actually have to flee, because the modern communist/socialists are complete buffoons and have no idea how to actually instantiate a revolution. Where they should be infiltrating and subverting the American military from the inside, they are instead villifying and antagonizing the American military, resulting in a police and armed forces which is hostile to leftist social activism. The Russian army didn't revolt simply because the war was going poorly: the Bolsheviks actively infiltrated the Russian armed services and commandeered the Russian army to its own ends. The war's impact had far, far more to do with the troops turning on the Tsar's government than did Bolshevik infiltration.
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CountFosco posted:Please continue to dream of some sort of nonviolent political transformation, because as long as your completely inhuman Marxist dreams remain that, dreams, the rest of us will continue on with the real struggles. If you think an actual armed revolution against the US government has a chance of succeeding in the age of drone warfare, you're delusional.
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The real struggle to... become police and army men? Not sure that's a struggle imo.
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Jun 10, 2018 20:00
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Captain_Maclaine posted:The war's impact had far, far more to do with the troops turning on the Tsar's government than did Bolshevik infiltration. I was about to say, the backing of the Bolsheviks came after the SocDems decided on continuing loving the
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Josef bugman posted:I was about to say, the backing of the Bolsheviks came after the SocDems decided on continuing loving the And when the Petrograd garrison sided with the people against the gendarmes and Cossacks, the Bolsheviks were still at best an influential minority among the revolutionary parties.
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The most loyal troops of the Tsar's army lying in their graves in Poland, Silesia, and Prussia had a lot more to do with the Tsar failing to maintain control of Petrograd than did Bolshevik infiltration especially since as mentioned the Bolsheviks were despite their name the minority party in the Revolution. Shockingly, a reactionary has a poor grasp of history
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VitalSigns posted:The most loyal troops of the Tsar's army lying in their graves in Poland, Silesia, and Prussia had a lot more to do with the Tsar failing to maintain control of Petrograd than did Bolshevik infiltration especially since as mentioned the Bolsheviks were despite their name the minority party in the Revolution. I've always thought that particular trick was delightful.
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I can genuinely not understand what was going through the skulls of Russia's high command and political elite during the first world war. It was as if they had no idea how to do anything correctly.
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Josef bugman posted:I can genuinely not understand what was going through the skulls of Russia's high command and political elite during the first world war. It was as if they had no idea how to do anything correctly. Hopefully we will be the same thing about ourselves in 20 years.
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Josef bugman posted:I can genuinely not understand what was going through the skulls of Russia's high command and political elite during the first world war. It was as if they had no idea how to do anything correctly. Brusilov wasn't half bad, but yeah he's about the only one I can think of that wasn't a clueless chump.
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