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Fallout 4: Boston Needs Moms. I'm not sorry
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Fallout 4: Another poo poo Post Needs Our Help
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Jun 10, 2018 00:54
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Keeshhound posted:Fallout 4: Boston Needs Moms. So long maternal plan! I am sorry
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Jun 10, 2018 00:57
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Jun 10, 2018 01:59
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Freaking Crumbum posted:i've been trying to consider the voiced protag situation from the angle of "which games have i enjoyed that did this" and the immediate answer that pops into my head is The Boss from Saints Row 3/4. it felt like all of the VOs were having a great time (and obviously the script goes off the rails gonzo in a good way) and it really enhanced my enjoyment of the game. I think Alpha Protocol as janky as it was handled the aspects of this the best. All the different options were fleshed out and completely valid to take, with a few curve balls thrown in if you mostly acted one way, but say tried to cheese something by taking a different approach to it completely. One of the bosses I remember will escape unless you goad him into fighting you, but you need to be an rear end in a top hat. If you were a dick in all your previous interactions he would fall for it, if you were like balanced and professional he would know your trying to bait him and gently caress off. Or you could meet a sleazy contact for information, if you crack jokes with him he gives you the info and doesn't rat on you. You can also beat it out of him, but then the mission is harder because he sold you out because... well you smashed his head into a bar. Plus you can just always pick the best option without sounding too cheesy as you are spy who ostensibly has some training in how to manipulate people instead of Joe/Jane Pre-Apocalypse Schmo. Jack2142 fucked around with this message at 09:13 on Jun 10, 2018 |
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Jun 10, 2018 09:11
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Jack2142 posted:Plus you can just always pick the best option without sounding too cheesy as you are spy who ostensibly has some training in how to manipulate people instead of Joe/Jane Pre-Apocalypse Schmo. This is the important part IMO. No matter what, Thorton is Thorton and not just a cypher for the player, they even make a point to limit how far you can customize his appearance. The schizophrenic nature of the dialogue wheel is explained by the fact that Thorton is a trained spy whos goal is to manipulate those around him, and this is emphasized by there not being a 'correct' approach; if you make an ally like you then you get a bonus....and if you make them hate you then you also get a bonus. By comparison, while the Sole Survivor has some default personality, the dialogue paths have the exact opposite goal; almost all of them terminate in the same result, and the four choices serve as attempts to allow the player to define SS. It's playing to voiced protag + dialogue wheels' weaknesses.
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Jun 10, 2018 09:47
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Yeah, I'm very much in favour of playing specific people in games with voiced protagonists. You basically sacrifice character customisation and run the risk of every protagonist turning into a brown haired brooding white man, but Geralt of Rivia was a way better protagonist than "The Inquisitor" from Dragon Age. It's also nice when other characters refer to you by name rather than with some dumb title like "The Pathfinder". You can also do halfsies like in Mass Effect, where Shepard has a name and a rank but you can still customise gender and appearance to some extent.
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Jun 10, 2018 14:45
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lmao gently caress FO3. TTW time
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Jun 10, 2018 14:57
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Keeshhound posted:Fallout 4: Boston Needs Moms. You'll want this, then.
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Jun 10, 2018 15:06
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Also I guess its time to set up NV for a playthrough because at least that poo poo didn't break on me mid game.
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Jun 10, 2018 16:05
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Jun 10, 2018 16:05
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marshmallow creep posted:You'll want this, then. Yeah people can't see that's on the Slab on their phones. Way to give a heads-up.
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Jun 10, 2018 19:12
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So I found out that if you ignore Diamond City and make a beeline for Goodneighbor you can actually go into the Memory Den early and Irma will let you relive your memory of Shaun's kidnapping.
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Jun 10, 2018 19:16
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Arcsquad12 posted:So I found out that if you ignore Diamond City and make a beeline for Goodneighbor you can actually go into the Memory Den early and Irma will let you relive your memory of Shaun's kidnapping. you can do that anytime up until you kill kellogg and tell valentine about it
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Jun 10, 2018 19:54
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is there a way to make fallout 2 combat more enjoyable if I dislike turn based games in general? its aggressively bad and playing this poo poo is a nightmare so far.
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Jun 10, 2018 21:00
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Gort posted:Yeah, I'm very much in favour of playing specific people in games with voiced protagonists. You basically sacrifice character customisation and run the risk of every protagonist turning into a brown haired brooding white man, but Geralt of Rivia was a way better protagonist than "The Inquisitor" from Dragon Age. It's also nice when other characters refer to you by name rather than with some dumb title like "The Pathfinder". Yeah that is an issue with Bioware, they moved pretty far in the "blank slate" character, which I think was a reaction to Dragon Age 2 being bad. I also would give kudo's to Mass Effect 1 where Renegade vs Paragon mostly was a choice between pragmatism vs idealism, which got burned out of the series over 2 where being Renegade made you look like a demon monster.
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Jun 10, 2018 21:14
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Well we're getting a trailer right now on the MS show. WV setting confirmed. Spotted what I believe is the Capitol building in Charleston and the main WVU building in Morgantown. This is gonna be weird.
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Jun 10, 2018 21:15
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Jose Oquendo posted:Well we're getting a trailer right now on the MS show. WV setting confirmed. Spotted what I believe is the Capitol building in Charleston and the main WVU building in Morgantown. This is gonna be weird. looks beautiful and it's neat that there are actually colors in a Fallout game. I'm cautiously optimistic?
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Jun 10, 2018 21:19
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I , a random dumbass on the internet, think it looks good from what they revealed.
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Jun 10, 2018 21:21
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spcP97RKgYY 76 features some new enemies
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Jun 10, 2018 21:21
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Well, the fanbase has been asking for a lusher Fallout game for ages, and Bethesda finally delivered. I'm a bit surprised, considering the game is so close to the war I'd imagine they'd go for a more devastated look, but it definitely looks pretty.
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Jun 10, 2018 21:26
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buglord posted:is there a way to make fallout 2 combat more enjoyable if I dislike turn based games in general? its aggressively bad and playing this poo poo is a nightmare so far. "I hate turn based combat so I made a combat character and hate the combat in this turn based game" You can complete fallout 2 without ever killing anything, makes a sneaky talking character.
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Jun 10, 2018 21:28
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Before the trailer played, Howard said 76 is 4 times the size of 4.
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Jun 10, 2018 21:32
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Fair Bear Maiden posted:Well, the fanbase has been asking for a lusher Fallout game for ages, and Bethesda finally delivered. I'm a bit surprised, considering the game is so close to the war I'd imagine they'd go for a more devastated look, but it definitely looks pretty. Figures. 20 years after the apocalypse all is green and lush. 200 years after, dusty bullshit. The anachronism is palpable. 20 years after the apocalypse is the time when the overall aesthetic of the East Coast games makes sense; irradiated ruins full of people scrabbling so hard to survive they have no time to clean up. 200 years after is when things should be lushly green and overgrown where settlements haven't sprung up to reclaim buildings, clean up, and build new structures. Has nobody at Bethesda EVER watched Life After People?
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Jun 10, 2018 21:34
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I wonder if they plan on explaining how everything else turned so brown in the years to come. E: From what the said and showed it sounds like settlement building will play a bigger part
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Jun 10, 2018 21:34
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The newest E3 footage is fuckin gorgeous looking, drat. And 4x the size of Fallout 4’s map 
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Jun 10, 2018 21:35
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buglord posted:is there a way to make fallout 2 combat more enjoyable if I dislike turn based games in general? its aggressively bad and playing this poo poo is a nightmare so far. Your skills might suck. FO1/2 are turn based but they're not very tactical. Winning combat is usually just a question of having the right gear/skills (cheesy exploits notwithstanding). You're going to have a bad time if your build's bad.
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Jun 10, 2018 21:37
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Rinkles posted:Before the trailer played, Howard said 76 is 4 times the size of 4. sounds pretty great considering Tood Howard has never lied before
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Jun 10, 2018 21:39
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Rinkles posted:Your skills might suck. FO1/2 are turn based but they're not very tactical. Winning combat is usually just a question of having the right gear/skills (cheesy exploits notwithstanding). You're going to have a bad time if your build's bad. Just roll a sniper and aim at every last eyeball in the wasteland. Crits for days. Also I am turgid at the idea of traversing 400% more land.
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Jun 10, 2018 21:42
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Of course the one thing we know about 76 is that whatever you're doing fails miserably because the east coast is still a pile of poo poo years later
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Jun 10, 2018 21:43
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I like how they finally made the wasteland not look uhh... look desert wastelandy?
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Jun 10, 2018 21:43
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Rinkles posted:Before the trailer played, Howard said 76 is 4 times the size of 4. He's just saying it'll require 120 GB hard drive space.
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Jun 10, 2018 21:43
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Chronojam posted:I wonder if they plan on explaining how everything else turned so brown in the years to come. It looks like the terrain is quite mountainous, so if Vault 76 is deep in the appalachian mountains, isn't it possible it was just in an area not nuked?
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Jun 10, 2018 21:43
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Fair Bear Maiden posted:Well, the fanbase has been asking for a lusher Fallout game for ages, and Bethesda finally delivered. I'm a bit surprised, considering the game is so close to the war I'd imagine they'd go for a more devastated look, but it definitely looks pretty. Well, it makes sense that West Virginia would be less war torn than DC or California because it'd be less targeted during a nuclear strike. Reveilled posted:It looks like the terrain is quite mountainous, so if Vault 76 is deep in the appalachian mountains, isn't it possible it was just in an area not nuked? Yes, this. Everyone was busy bombing cities I bet and left the mountains alone.
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Jun 10, 2018 21:44
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I really hope they don't go with a voiced protagonist again, it was way neater to have agency in your decisions. So the timeline is in the future after the nukes or shortly thereafter? It looks like the world is in good shape and there's big futuristic machinery chugging.
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Jun 10, 2018 21:44
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Garrand posted:He's just saying it'll require 120 GB hard drive space. It's going to be the same playable area with 3x the landmass devoted to impassable mountains
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Jun 10, 2018 21:45
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Yeah, there's not much to target in West Virginia, so it'd be mostly unscathed. Also seems like a good place to put a control vault without horrendous experimentation as well. Can't wait to see how badly optimized this one is and what gameplay mechanics they'll have cribbed from Witcher 3.
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Jun 10, 2018 21:48
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Plot Twist: 3 of those are DLC-only areas
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Jun 10, 2018 21:53
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:Well, it makes sense that West Virginia would be less war torn than DC or California because it'd be less targeted during a nuclear strike. West Virginia - even in alternate timelines it's still such a hosed up hell hole and not worth a Trailer still makes me wonder how this game is going to play out; it kept cycling among a lot of vault dwellers so it makes me wonder if the rumours of an online cooperative thing are true. Looks pretty though, whatever it is. And it looks like there may be another pre-war segment.
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Rinkles posted:Before the trailer played, Howard said 76 is 4 times the size of 4. What percentage of Star Citizens universe is this
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