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You can tell that DOOM is a good game because it's a 10 hour game with 10 minutes of cut-scenes and everyone complains about those 10 minutes all the time as if they are the worst thing in the game.
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DoctorStrangelove posted:You can tell that DOOM is a good game because it's a 10 hour game with 10 minutes of cut-scenes and everyone complains about those 10 minutes all the time as if they are the worst thing in the game. It's because they are. Everything else is basically perfect. Except maybe for the annoying checklists of combat challenges that gave too good rewards to be ignored. I really didn't like that part either.
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Jun 11, 2018 16:19
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I think I am one of the few people who appreciates just a small touch of story in my murder. True, I don't want a ton either - I think DOOM was about perfect with the amount it had - but I also don't want none at all. It's the little touches in there that help make the game so much more atmospheric. Like Doomguy hesitating to destroy VEGA and such.
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Jun 11, 2018 16:21
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Doom's framing device of a multinational corporation monetizing Hell to sell cheap energy was hilarious and I hope they do more with that concept in the next game.
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Jun 11, 2018 16:23
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One thing I liked about Hayden was that he wasn't actually a generic evil greedy money-loving CEO stock character that's been done 20,000 times before.
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Jun 11, 2018 16:29
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exquisite tea posted:Doom's framing device of a multinational corporation monetizing Hell to sell cheap energy was hilarious and I hope they do more with that concept in the next game. I loved all the computer terminal stuff of "what to do in a demonic invasion/possession" stuff.
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Jun 11, 2018 16:30
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I kinda want for Hayden to be written as smart enough to eventually realize he hosed up and what a terrible idea his heel turn was just out of pure self-preservation instinct. Don't really care what happens after that, i just find the idea of a Doom villain with actual believable character while Doomguy remains the exact opposite hilariousexquisite tea posted:Doom's framing device of a multinational corporation monetizing Hell to sell cheap energy was hilarious and I hope they do more with that concept in the next game. They can keep all that stuff in for Et6rn6l 6 and just make it skippable in arcade modes or replays or really just in general. It's an easy win-win solution for everyone. RoadCrewWorker fucked around with this message at 16:42 on Jun 11, 2018 |
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Jun 11, 2018 16:37
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I'm so glad I was right to believe in the "hell on earth" remark way back when. 
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Jun 11, 2018 16:42
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Deakul posted:I'm so glad I was right to believe in the "hell on earth" remark way back when. 
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Jun 11, 2018 16:47
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Jack Trades posted:I hope that Re5ard will have less forced story, not more. I wouldn't mind if the Doomslayer Prophecy Stones continued playing directly through your speakers when you walked away instead of their sound source being localized at the stones themselves, forcing you to stand still and listen to them. That's like... one of the only things I'd want different about Retard 4 aside from skipable cutscenes.
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Jun 11, 2018 16:48
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RoadCrewWorker posted:I kinda want for Hayden to be written as smart enough to eventually realize he hosed up and what a terrible idea his heel turn was just out of pure self-preservation instinct. Don't really care what happens after that, i just find the idea of a Doom villain with actual believable character while Doomguy remains the exact opposite hilarious
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Jun 11, 2018 17:07
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Maybe if there's unskippable dialog scenes in the next game, the devs will do something cool like after the 1st playthrough, put some secret button or access tunnel in the area somewhere that takes you to some secret explorable place with a powerup at the end or something, which will take a talented player almost exactly as long to complete it as the exposition dump, giving good players something to do, that at the end will spit them out close to where they left off. I think that would be more interesting than a Skip Cutscene button at least. Like how cool would it have been to find a grate in Samuel Hayden's office that led down a narrow and winding path of AC ducts and rock that rewarded you with a weapon or suit upgrade, and that dropped you to the other side of his office exit door. GreatGreen fucked around with this message at 17:25 on Jun 11, 2018 |
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Jun 11, 2018 17:22
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On the other hand I'm OK with the bad guys starting to exposit but freak out and go OK ok go away sheesh if you start firing your guns
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Jun 11, 2018 17:29
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I'm cool with the unskippable exposition, but like others, not past the first time. For a game that encourages and expects multiple playthroughs of the same level it's an unfortunate oversight. Edit: "unfortunate oversight". Jeez, look at this nerd in the DOOM thread. Just say they hosed up!
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Jun 11, 2018 17:39
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exquisite tea posted:Doom's framing device of a multinational corporation monetizing Hell to sell cheap energy was hilarious and I hope they do more with that concept in the next game. I loved that there was no beating around the bush about it either, it was just straight up "we are mining Literally Hell for energy, if demons show up call security, have a good day".
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Jun 11, 2018 17:42
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I imagine the scene where you first meet Olivia Pierce would've been received better if Doomguy just started bashing the gently caress out of the glass barrier when he sees her instead of just standing there.
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Jun 11, 2018 17:49
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Doomguy is mad because the demons made him watch a cutscene
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Jun 11, 2018 17:52
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toasterwarrior posted:I imagine the scene where you first meet Olivia Pierce would've been received better if Doomguy just started bashing the gently caress out of the glass barrier when he sees her instead of just standing there. Olivia starts monologueing, doomguy starts magdumping into the glass, she starts dumping exposition faster, cracks start appearing in the glass, she goes "gently caress ok fine I'll email it to you" and scrambles out of the room
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Jun 11, 2018 17:54
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Pharmaskittle posted:Olivia starts monologueing, doomguy starts magdumping into the glass, she starts dumping exposition faster, cracks start appearing in the glass, she goes "gently caress ok fine I'll email it to you" and scrambles out of the room I wonder how hard it would be to actually implement reactivity like this. Like, record multiple versions of the same dialogue, one calm and one panicked, and if you damage the glass enough, the game triggers the switch from one to the other.
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Jun 11, 2018 18:28
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DO4M 2: H*CK ON DIRT
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Jun 11, 2018 18:44
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https://twitter.com/doom_txt/status/1006203109142495232
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Jun 11, 2018 18:46
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Broose posted:But "Eternal", that name gives me pause. Marketers don't give lovely names like that unless there is something not straight sequel about it. Clearly you are not a Halo fan.
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Jun 11, 2018 19:11
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Lobok posted:I'm cool with the unskippable exposition, but like others, not past the first time. For a game that encourages and expects multiple playthroughs of the same level it's an unfortunate oversight. Martin went out of his way to show the "I don't really care you trying to explain things" as demonstrated with doomguy shoving the terminal away in frustration.
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Jun 11, 2018 19:40
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Uncle Kitchener posted:Mick Gordon probably doesn't use tiles on his house floor; they're all effects pedals, so every time you take a step in his house. you hear a click from a pedal. You look down and you see a whole rainbow of these things just sticking out and you just can't walk around the house without shoes. I'd pay good money to have a doorbell that rings to the E1M1 theme and a weight-activated tile under the WELCOME mat that makes the classic door-opening sound
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Jun 11, 2018 20:25
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DoctorStrangelove posted:Rebuild of DOOM 1.0 You can (NOT) stand still during combat like a bitch. This should be the thread title. So hype for more Doom, hopefully they don't break what wasn't broken. I would pay full price for a single player expansion, keep all the same weapons and mechanics, add a few more demons and take my money already.
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Jun 11, 2018 20:26
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Indiana_Krom posted:This should be the thread title. Doomnite: Battle Royale
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Jun 11, 2018 20:32
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The new DOOM will focus on base building and emergent gameplay between other players
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Jun 11, 2018 20:32
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I hope we see doomguy's buddy Vega in the sequel  If you recall in '16 he slams the upload dialog right as Vega self-destructs, opening the portal to Hell. I liked Vega precisely because he was barely utilized but his moments and dialog counted for a lot
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Jun 11, 2018 20:35
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Indiana_Krom posted:This should be the thread title. So, Doom 2?
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Jun 11, 2018 20:35
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I'm sure stay-behind-cover-til-the-fire-goes-away Archviles are gonna play real nicely with New-Doom's never-stop-moving-always-be-strafing
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Jun 11, 2018 20:36
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Deakul posted:I'm so glad I was right to believe in the "hell on earth" remark way back when. The doubt wasn't that there would be a sequel, the doubt was whether it would be this Christmas rage 2 looks neat and all but I wants my dooms 😡😡😡
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Jun 11, 2018 20:37
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I'm expecting the Archvile here to be a reskin of the Summoner from DOOM '16, because that guy always seemed like he was there to replace the Archvile.
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Jun 11, 2018 20:38
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Doc Morbid posted:I'm expecting the Archvile here to be a reskin of the Summoner from DOOM '16, because that guy always seemed like he was there to replace the Archvile. There's room for both. They did put the barons of hell from both Doom 93 and Doom 3 in after all, and named them baron/knights separately as a compromise. The archvile is totally different to the summoner.
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Jun 11, 2018 20:42
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Zedsdeadbaby posted:There's room for both. They did put the barons of hell from both Doom 93 and Doom 3 in after all, and named them baron/knights separately as a compromise.  They put in the Hell Knights from Doom 3, and the Barons from Doom 93 (+ the rest), only bigger. Hell Knights and Barons have been separate since the Knights were introduced in Doom 2.
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Jun 11, 2018 20:45
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Son of Thunderbeast posted:
That's exactly what I'm saying, ya doofus. Hell knights and barons of hell are the same in Doom 93 just with one having a bigger health pool (and pink torso). The hell knight from Doom 93 and the hell knight from Doom 3 are both present even though technically they're supposed to be the same thing. Zedsdeadbaby fucked around with this message at 20:48 on Jun 11, 2018 |
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Jun 11, 2018 20:46
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When you think about it, $60 is a bargain for a new Mick Gordon album, and I’m hearing something about it including some free pack-in game?
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Jun 11, 2018 20:47
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Zedsdeadbaby posted:That's exactly what I'm saying, ya doofus. Hell knights and barons of hell are the same in Doom 93 just with one having a bigger health pool (and pink torso). The hell knight from Doom 93 and the hell knight from Doom 3 are both present even though technically they're supposed to be the same thing. oh lol I still can't parse it that way for some reason but I believe you
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Jun 11, 2018 20:51
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CJacobs posted:I'm sure stay-behind-cover-til-the-fire-goes-away Archviles are gonna play real nicely with New-Doom's never-stop-moving-always-be-strafing Instead of hitscan fire maybe they'll make it a very fast wall of flame or a geyser of flame that will open up under your feet (or where your feet were if you're moving fast enough).
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Jun 11, 2018 21:25
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Are there any good doom 3 designs except the knights
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Uncle Kitchener posted:Mick Gordon probably doesn't use tiles on his house floor; they're all effects pedals, so every time you take a step in his house. you hear a click from a pedal. You look down and you see a whole rainbow of these things just sticking out and you just can't walk around the house without shoes. Mick Gordon eats no food, he just ingests the detuned power chords that flow from his speaker walls Grand Fromage posted:I loved that there was no beating around the bush about it either, it was just straight up "we are mining Literally Hell for energy, if demons show up call security, have a good day". WEAPONISING HELL, FOR A BETTER TOMORROW! 
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